The Daily Grind: Which MMO has the worst presence on Reddit?

    
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Why are you this way.

It’s really hard to get a sense of “the community” with MMOs at this point, because MMOs are no longer confined to a small enough roster of players that you can get an accurate thin slice of information. Think of it this way: If we assume World of Warcraft has five million subscribers (which seems low, but potentially on-track), that means the game population is nearly twice the size of Chicago, Illinois. You can’t really get a sense of everyone involved in the game at that size.

However, to continue that analogy, fans tend to split up along neighborhoods. And of all the neighborhoods out there, Reddit is the most ubiquitous and the most visible. You can see the presence of the community right there. Which brings us to the question: Which MMO has the worst presence on Reddit?

After all, while the Star Citizen subreddit may not be indicative of the whole community around the game, it’s definitely indicative of that subreddit’s community. Lots of people have shared tales of horrible behavior on various subreddits, from Shroud of the Avatar to World of Warcraft to Final Fantasy XIV. Heck, the only one I recall as being consistently praised is the Guild Wars 2 subreddit, and even that might not be indicative. So of all the MMO subreddits out there, which one is the worst?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!

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Alex Malone

I could never get into Reddit. It has always seemed like a badly designed piece of garbage, I don’t think I’ve ever found anything useful on there at all and now just flat out avoid it.

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mirricatwarrior

/r/mmorpg is a depressing place most of the times.

Most of the subreddits that i visit to read from time to time are ok: GW2, WoW, ESO, FF14

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Ernost

PvP focussed games tend to attract the dregs of humanity, and their subreddits reflect this.

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Arktouros

BDO #1!!!

Wait, what as the award for again?

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Kawaii Five-O

BDO’s has got to be among the worst as far as subreddits go.

Useful, helpful information is often downvoted in favor of bad memes. Harassment of Twitch streamers is encouraged and justified by the majority, and comments are just generally hostile and antagonistic.

If you reskinned r/blackdesertonline as a futaba-based image board, it’d be indistinguishable from 4chan.

As for r/ffxiv, it’s not bad, but it is a little annoying how they often like to pat each other on the back and praise themselves over how “amazing” their community is–often asserting they’re the best MMO community.

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The level of toxicity overall on individual MMO subs is no more or less than the background radiation of assholishness that you get anywhere on the internet.

I’d actually say the “worst” subs are any of them that happen to have been captured by developers or game company community reps and turned “official.” Official subs, with few exceptions, tend to be deserted, void of anything resembling any sort of useful or honest discussion about the game, and the last place that anyone with actual interest in the game would go for information. The subs that are unusually good are almost all fan moderated; fan moderation doesn’t guarantee that a sub will be good, but when a sub is captured by the game company’s marketing wonks, it’s a safe bet that it won’t be.

This may be different for game companies or individual developers that started out using reddit as their official community forum platform and have a permissive moderation stance, particularly with criticism of the game. But those are rare, and in most cases official subs are ones that were captured as an afterthought and abused as just another marketing channel, more like a ghetto twitter than a discussion forum.

The worst in terms of being plagued with circle jerking and ranting are the generic subs like MMORPG, much more than the game specific subs, which tend to be dominated by people who like an individual game and less weighed down with chronic grumpsters. But even the subs with friendlier tones still suffer from denizens like Passive Aggressive Instant Downvoter Dude, who seem to devote their time 24/7 to blindly downvoting any remotely constructive or informative post or comment about a game, I assume because they’re either personally disgruntled about some aspect of it, or just broken inside.

That said, on the whole there is noticeably more sincerely helpful, constructive, and useful discussion and information posted on most MMO-specific subs than you see on any of the official forums. There are plenty of useless and annoying posts as well, but 9 times in 10 when I’m looking for an answer to a question that I have about a game, the most helpful link that I find first will be either a discussion thread on reddit, or something that was linked to from reddit and heavily upvoted.

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Armsbend

“background radiation of assholishness”

This will probably be the best phrase I hear for the rest of the day.

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Melissa McDonald

It needs to be said by Dwight Yoakam in his “Doyle Hargrave” character from Sling Blade.

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Tandor

I wouldn’t know, I realised a long time ago that Reddit wasn’t a place I wanted to visit.

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Oleg Chebeneev

one of the best sites on the internet imo. maybe the best

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Melissa McDonald

Humbug. YouTube is the best/first/premiere web site of all web sites.

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McGuffn

I really like massivelyop. And any page that tells me I need to download the latest version of Flash is high on the list too.

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Oleg Chebeneev

/r/StarCitizen is the best
/r/wowservers is the worst

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Utakata

I think this is one of those questions that has going to have a lot of /popcorn subjectivity to it…so my pigtails will be staying clear of this. And perhaps, what Mr. Correll said below. :(

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Toy Clown

In the realm of games I regularly visit, or at least their forums (BDO, GW2, TOR, ESO, Rift, SWL), there’s two that stick out to me as mediocre, but in different ways. The first is BDO. I can’t stand their reddit community. It’s like opening the cages to a crowd of people who’ve never had life experience outside of high school and living at home with their parents, who get into hive-mind mentalities and turn the entire reddit into vitriol, only placing value on memes for entertainment.

SWL’s reddit is bad in that it’s not really used much, there’s not a lot of helpful information, and while its small, it can suffer from a handful of disgruntled players dropping in and stirring up topics such as “This game is sh*t,” posts.

In the case of BDO’s reddit, I know a large portion of people that love the game have pulled away from it as it’s just a cesspool of angsty hormonal spew fests. Discord opened up the ability to join sub-communities that are much healthier, mentally, to be around. I find t embarrassing that reddit is the “ambassador” to the game, when you barely come across people that bad in the game.

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Kawaii Five-O

That’s pretty much spot on for BDO. The subreddit makes the community look much worse than what it actually is in-game.

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Arktouros

Hrm…should I post a picture of in game BDO chat and have Bree perma ban me…

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