Riot discloses the drop odds for League of Legends lootboxes

    
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Well, points for effort.
Mentioning lootboxes at this point is a good way to send players into paroxysms of rage regardless of how fair or unfair they are; any goodwill about the random crates has pretty well evaporated now. League of Legends seems to be aiming to ameliorate some of that rage with its Hextech boxes and upcoming Masterwork chests by fully disclosing the drop rates for everything within a given crate, so at least you can have a good idea of your actual odds before you pull the trigger on buying them.

Obviously, the rarest and best rewards are, well, fairly unlikely, but the crates at least allow you to reroll items that you already own at the moment. (The designers are looking into other ways to make “getting stuff you already have” feel like less of a letdown.) We can’t tell you if this will make you any less angry about lootboxes, but at least disclosing the odds is pretty decidedly a step in the right direction.

Source: Official Site via Kotaku; thanks to Pepperzine for the tip!
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Arktouros

The correct way to handle this is to pair up with one of the people pushing for legislation, then jointly announce you’re preemptively disclosing the odds. This way you both look like you’re accomplishing something and generate good will at the same time. This really has no downsides because, as Bree showed in a research study paper a while back, knowing the odds and fallacies and otherwise in gambling has basically zero impact on gambling habits you still end up raking in all the money while pushing the narrative you’re one of the good ones.

SMH, amateur hour here.

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Cosmic Cleric

Bree showed in a research study paper a while back, knowing the odds and fallacies and otherwise in gambling has basically zero impact on gambling habits

Was that just for people with addiction issues, or all human beings on the planet?

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Sally Bowls

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

If they disclosed the odds, then I would know what the probabilities were.

The developer also has rules in place that prevent multiple skin-less dud boxes from opening in a row, limit character drops to only those above a certain value, and ensure that players receive bonus drops from time to time.

What they did was to transparently disclose a drop table and then say that said drop table will be modified by opaque algorithms! How could anyone believe that is disclosing the odds? If I discard one of my five cards in a video poker machine with Nevada rules, each of the remaining 47 cards is equally (plus or minus some trivial rounding of binary numbers) likely to happen?

Looking at the “disclosure”, can you tell me the odds of something dropping? What does the “ensure that players receive bonus drops from time to time” algorithm take into account? E.g., does it take into account how much you have spent? Does it adjust your odds up or down based upon a calculation as to what would make Riot the most money? My tinfoil hat is not necessarily large enough to necessarily believe they do that. But given this “disclosure”, they certainly could.

If you and 12 friends were to open a lootbox, it seems like each of you could, probably would, have a different chance of getting various loot.

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Iain B

So you’re complaining that they are adding a layer of “bad luck protection” that only exists to improve the buyer’s chances of getting better rewards?

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Cosmic Cleric

So you’re complaining that they are adding a layer of “bad luck protection” that only exists to improve the buyer’s chances of getting better rewards?

Well there’s also this …

limit character drops to only those above a certain value

I just wonder why they don’t also disclose the “extra good/bad luck” modifications percentages as well.

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Armsbend

Riot is now joining the rabble? Garbage. I hope they suffer mightily. The suffering being widespread layoffs. Locally if possible.

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BDJ

You really need to find a new way to roll. This isn’t havent the desired outcome you are expecting. It’s coming off as borderline pathetic and extreme.

Btw. League has had lockboxes forever now. Gotta keep up with the times.

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Armsbend

Fortune be me – my goal isn’t impressing you of anything really. Be assured of that fact.

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Cosmic Cleric

It’s coming off as borderline pathetic and extreme.

To some, maybe, to others, not at all.

Nothing wrong with standing your ground on something you believe in. Granted, there’s a fine line between that and tilting at windmills, but still, there is a line.

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Sally Bowls

Perhaps you will enjoy the irony if LoL’s biggest competitive threat comes from the Chinese company they sold themselves to?

Tencent’s ‘Honor Of Kings’ Will Cannibalize International Sales Of ‘League Of Legends’

Unfortunately, Honor of Kings is a mobile copycat version of Tencent’s top-grossing PC MOBA game, League of Legends. It’s going to easily attract many PC gamers to switch to the mobile version.

I expect European, North American, and other international versions of Honor of Kings to cannibalize micro-transaction sales of League of Legends.

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Armsbend

If they own mobile and pc it just seems they are taking the whole pie. I’ve noticed DOTA’s numbers in a fairly steep decline lately as well. I’m curious how Steam will fair without a name brand self-made game to keep people coming. They still have CS GO though so they are years away from a problem.

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mike foster

But I like my job a lot

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Lethality

You really need to seek help.

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BalsBigBrother

I had a glance through the official site faq for this and while its nice that they are giving the odds (which seem reasonable to me) it was this that caught my eye:

HOW DOES BEHAVIOR AFFECT LOOT ELIGIBILITY?

If you’ve been punished recently for negative behavior, you’ll be locked out of earning chests and keys from playing games for a duration of time.

The length of time you’re restricted from earning loot is relative to two things:

Severity of punishment. You won’t earn loot for the duration of your punishment, be it a temporary suspension or a chat restriction.

Signs of reform. Once your punishment has ended, you’ll continue to be restricted from earning loot until you’re recognized to have made significant progress in amending your past behavior. There isn’t a specific timeframe for this–it all depends on your behavior.

So my take away from this is if you just want to play League with no lockboxes or keys then just be a jackass and you will never see one in your game :p Heh only kidding but it is an interesting approach and I do wonder if it is an effective deterrent to bad behaviour or whether anyone else will follow suit.

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Roger Edwards

NB. Han Solo is dead , so I’d be sceptical about taking his advice.

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