Wouldn’t it be great if every MMORPG emulated Darkfall New Dawn’s epic roadmap

Even if you’re not a Darkfall fan or Darkfall New Dawn player, you should take a peek at the incredible roadmap Ub3rgames has posted. Instead of being a vague paragraph of waffle words and half-promises, this puppy is a wall of bar graphs showing exactly, to the feature, what’s being worked on and how far along in that process it is.

“You’ll notice that most of our coming projects are focused around the economy and the reward structure it creates,” the indie studio writes. “Currently, trade is not fluid enough and feels punishing to many players, and holding on to territory is not worth the effort. These are major concerns we share with the community. The world is still in its build up phase, and we aim to give reasons to fight for when that is done. This means valuable locations and watchtowers to control them.”

A further tweet noted that “a naval update will surely be planned” in the longer term after warfronts are live; indeed, warfronts were actually bumped up in the process thanks to player demand, so expect that system sooner rather than later.

Source: Official site, roadmap. Thanks, CistaCista!
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Targeter

Seems like Darkfall gets rebooted quite often? Or am I just imagining things?

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postlarval

Smoke and mirrors are still smoke and mirrors.

It only matters is you execute on it, not how fancy you can get with a roadmap.

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Yuri Geinish

The point so many cultists fail to get. Virtualization of progress instead of progress itself is how you make money these days.

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Oleg Chebeneev

The best MMORPGs are already doing it and doing it even better:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/board/1-Star-Citizen

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J

The only thing that matters with Star Citizen and its forever timelines…

“Though there is no official release date for Star Citizen currently, the game is being actively developed.”

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Yuri Geinish

> The best non-existent MMORPGs are already doing it and doing it even better

There, fixed it for you.

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Oleg Chebeneev

Then dont forget to call Camelot Unchained non-existent MMORPG, Ashes of Creation non-existent MMORPG, Project Gorgon non-existent MMORPG.

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Alli

It’s a roadmap with a giant disclaimer box that has so many disclaimers to require a scrollbar, but the scrollbar is broken and I can’t scroll down to read the rest!

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Oleg Chebeneev

((Deleted by mod. Completely unacceptable. Review the commenting code.))

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Bhagpuss Bhagpuss

Fine for those that like that sort of thing, I guess. Personally I preferred the old days when developers patched and updated without warning and the first thing you knew about any changes was when you read the patch notes – if they remembered to post any.

A little bit of anticipation is nice. I don’t mind a few PR trailers or forum posts the week or two before a change, but beyond that I’m not all that interested. Knowing there will be an expansion or a major update in six months, for example, is good but knowing in excruciating detail what’s going to be in it can be stultifying.

You could, of course, argue that anyone who doesn’t want to know doesn’t have to look but once the information is out it becomes very hard to avoid unless you play entirely solo and never speak to anyone. And naturally, once the details and the roadmaps have been released, I end up picking over them and speculating as hard as anyone. I’d thank the devs for keeping more under wraps and protecting me from my own curiosity. All I ask is that when the changes do arrive they both surprise and delight me. Not too much, is it?

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bobfish

I think there is a level of transparency that is achievable for all games, but not this much. The main reason I wouldn’t do this on anything I work on is because it removes the marketing/PR punch by revealing everything before it is done.

Sometimes you need to hold something back to get that big hit to bring in new people. Of course Darkfall may not care about that aspect.

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David Carson

I’d love it, but can the MMO community be trusted with something like that? You know that the instant any feature appears on the “investigation” list, it will be deemed to have been an absolute cast-iron guarantee promise, with the associated frothing at the mouth and accusing the developer of “lying” if they later decide not to go ahead with it.

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Yes there are some very loud people that go nuclear when a future feature slips but (IMO of course) most people with any sort of experience with MMO’s are fully aware that Stuff Happens™. It doesn’t truly get to the “general uproar” stage until development starts to lag significantly (Wildstar, SW:TOR, etc.)

Games are complex pieces of software with tons of moving parts under the hood. In a well designed system it’s not that hard to add features. But since everything is more or less interconnected even in the cleanest of code there are things that don’t mesh well. That can lead to delays if it’s deemed appropriated to adjust things to accommodate or cancellation if the addition is harmful.

Much like players need to understand that last paragraph, developers need to understand that’s a bit abstract for some people to wrap their heads around and those folks need to be ignored.

Community management can make all the difference. SW:TOR’s CM is atrocious and has been for ages (all the while promising to git gud). As a consequence their player population is extremely toxic and bitter. Wildstar had some decent CM. Wouldn’t call it great but they’d actually talk with their players. Only recently has that more or less flatlined and what’s left of the community is approaching “uproar” stage.

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TheDonDude

Pretty similar to Star Citizen’s road map.

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Siphaed

No, not even. Star Citizen’s vague, “we’ll get this done sometime this century” roadmap is just awful. Combine it with that they change it at every turn and now you have someone who won’t stop to ask for directions while they’re lost in the backwoods of Arkansas on the set of a slasher flick.

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TheDonDude

Their progress is sad. Ain’t arguing there.

But the road map? The road map is virtually identical to the one above.

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Pepperzine

Then that is not a good indication of how successful these developers will be at reaching their self-made development goals.

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boredinBC

I would love to see Mark Jacobs pair this with his long format releases. It would be the new gold standard in communication.

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Coolit

I’m sure that would be of epic proportion :-)