Former Star Citizen dev refutes fake Glassdoor review made by troll on his behalf

    
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The battle of the trolls in the Star Citizen community reached new lows this week as someone apparently impersonated a former dev on Glassdoor in an attempt to defame or at least hassle Cloud Imperium.

The fake review is plainly posted to look as if it were written by John Pritchett, a senior physics programmer at CIG who recently departed the company. But it is riddled with trainwreck grammar and spelling errors; it poorly communicates its central idea that an architecture change and micromanagement led to problems in the game’s development that are insurmountable by modern tech. “The scope of the project needs to be massively reigned in, and realistic expectations of what will actually be delivered in the next decade or two need to be communicated honestly and clearly to the community supporting the business,” it claims. It also includes plenty of positive praise for the ground-team, presumably in an attempt to make it look more realistic.

Pritchett is not amused. “It recently came to my attention that someone impersonating me has posted a fake review on Glassdoor about my time on Star Citizen,” he wrote on Facebook. “I did not write this review. I flagged it with the site, but felt that I should make a post to get the word out in case anyone saw it and thought it was legit.

Before you leap to the conclusion that everyone’s favorite Internet Warlord is responsible, know that that’s already been hashed out, and Derek Smart has already said he supports and believes Pritchett. “I stopped reporting on departing team members awhile back because it was drawing too much attention to them, which then tended to devolve into some of the toxic backers attacking them for abandoning the project,” he explains.

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Source: Reddit, Facebook, Glassdoor. With thanks to Anon.
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MMONERD

Really missed the old star Citizen drama. Glad it’s somewhat back on drama radar.

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John Mclain

Are people just obsessed with this game? Or is it the fact some people are are actually willing to give an unfinished game $25,000 for some flying pixels that causes people to freak out about this game’s every step and breath as though it was an accurate prediction of the end of the world?

I’m asking this as a serious question and would love an answer, (Of the non-frothing at the mouth kind.) I don’t understand the vitrol/fanaticism people have for this game and the company developing it.

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Cosmic Cleric

Are people just obsessed with this game? Or is it the fact some people are are actually willing to give an unfinished game $25,000 for some flying pixels that causes people to freak out about this game’s every step and breath as though it was an accurate prediction of the end of the world?

I’m asking this as a serious question and would love an answer, (Of the non-frothing at the mouth kind.) I don’t understand the vitrol/fanaticism people have for this game and the company developing it.

Perhaps more tin-foil hat, than frothing at the mouth, but have you ever considered, that maybe, it could partially/mostly be publishers trying to sink the “Devs don’t need publishers anymore” ship, before it leaves port?

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Joe Blobers

Quote John: “I’m asking this as a serious question and would love an answer”

If you plan to avoid vitrol/fanaticism people may be you should avoid caricature of funding amount or assuming people (who are people by the way? Backers, Journalist? Youtubers?) are obsessed according to you.

First the recent 27K “drama” was paramount of what you describe. As far as we know, no one beside an Org Leader who ask CIG for it did purchased this package.

Cost divided by members is less than a year and half of WOW subscription + 1 extension and a couple of micro_transaction. Nothing to right about as backer have only to buy a 45$ starter package to participate to Alpha/Beta and don’t need to spend an extra cents.
That imply some restriction like not being able to use all flyable ships but this situation should be lifted in a quarter or two with possibility to get all of them with ingame credits.

Second you can either see pixels of an unfinished game and apply this to every single game project not release or recognize Alpha 3.2 is now out and that CIG roadmap give clear vision of what is coming during the next four quarters: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/board/1-Star-Citizen

Last if this is not clear enough for you, it is probably that you are not ready to be part of the vast crowdfunding community and may better wait for beta status or even release.

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Sally Bowls

Sad.

Although, as an MMO player who has read tooltips and quest text, “trainwreck grammar and spelling errors;” does not cause me to immediately assume it is not a dev.

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Kevin McCaughey

Is anyone else now sick of hearing about SC? Put up or shut up. Release it or fuck off and stop annoying me. I get so many news feeds about it I am sick of it. I doubt very much it will ever release and I think the argument is long since lost on that. So please FOAD SC!

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Joe Blobers

Well Kevin you are sick of hearing about SC now it is clear to even the oldest nay-sayers that prophecies were gross and even more today, especially when Devs claim Glassdoor provide fake information?
You pick the right timing to be upset… :)

I suggest to just stop leaving comments if you are tired to hear about SC.
The scam is over kevin will be the last tos tand his words :) keep going.

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Kevin McCaughey

I can’t help myself, Joe. It’s like a car crashing in front of you – you can’t help watching even if you don’t want to see it. It’s in front of you. Especially on MOP ;)

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Joe Blobers

Kevin don’t hide behind MOP. Unless you missed it the scam, vaporware and collapse 90 days top are used only by a fraction not even of the community, but commenters.
Meanwhile 3.2 is delivered and 2 big patch are coming by end of 2018. Not in 2050 or never.
There is no car crashing. It’s in front of you :)

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Bruno Brito

Meanwhile 3.2 is delivered and 2 big patch are coming by end of 2018. Not in 2050 or never.
There is no car crashing. It’s in front of you :)

I don’t think that’s the point. The point is that your game had achieved the incredible mark of 200million dollars. Which is something most games won’t. This was supposed to be a indie project, a kickstarter project, and it got 5 years, 200mill bucks and honestly, it seems the scope of a small country.

Yet, what have you got? An 3.2 yeah, ALPHA. Concepts of a toilet system.

That’s the huge issue. Is how much money the game already got, how much of the game was completed, how many of the deadlines weren’t achieved, and how much is still left to complete.

I mean, honestly, can you give me concrete and final objectives of what CR wants with SC? What is the ending? How huge is the world? Is he developing Azeroth or is he waiting for the universe to expand so he can bring that into the game? How huge is SC? How many planets, how many quests?

Can he just like, build the game and go from there?

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Joe Blobers

Bruno if you see 3.2 as a toilet simulator there is nothing to save. Also comparing 200M$ to a small country scope… This is a caricature, which is fine as such. Problem is that you keep comparing 200M$ to an indie project.
It is not an indie project but 2 Triple-A scope, +500 team size and 5 studios, the current funding is totally matching project scope and costs that such situation imply.

Regarding yours questions about SC goal, they have been all answered in ATV’s and current roadmap give you quite precise hints on what coming next, till Q1 2019.

That means 3 more patch in 2019 bringing us close to most goals. Honestly, I won’t be surprised with a Beta by end of 2019 but not with 100 systems.
To me 100 populated systems is and should be a long time goal. I do not want billions of PG planets like in ED but more unique, handcrafted systems locations with special vista. Starting a Beta with “only” 5 or 10 systems would be already enough to swallow millions of players.

What you ask for (Can he just like, build the game and go from there?) is precisely what CIG is doing: Build the game through quarterly patch till they reach Beta SC and Squadron 42. Not in 2030 or never.

We are in 2018/2019 at the best moment for CIG and Backers. All techs and pipelines are uptodate allowing massive (over the next quarters) contents and gameplay delivery.

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Bruno Brito

Regarding yours questions about SC goal, they have been all answered in ATV’s and current roadmap give you quite precise hints on what coming next, till Q1 2019.

Yeah, because if there’s one thing that CIG is good at is keeping up with dates and plans.

I’m highly sure that LAUNCHED GAMES like GW2 and ESO were cheaper while you have an Alpha. A 200million Alpha.

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Joe Blobers

Quote bruno: “I’m highly sure that…”

Guild Wars 2 was started beginning of 2007 and released end of 2012.
During that time NCSoft salary expenses only was 382M$ and this amount is one quarter of their total expenses.

Believe it or not, Guild Wars 2 was also the result of others expenses done for Guild War 1. This is massively higher than SC+SQ42 even if we project a Beta end of 2019 or even 2020.

CIG have not been good with date but 2018 roadmap and patch delivered in time proved the tide is turning in the right direction.

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Bruno Brito

5 years.

Release.

You got an alpha.

CIG have not been good with date but 2018 roadmap and patch delivered in time proved the tide is turning in the right direction.

5 years. 200million. Is a bit too late to be playing catch with backer’s money.

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Joe Blobers

Bruno. Companies established since years, which already had time to create all necessary tools, pipelines, studio and team size versus a Kickstarter project that started from scratch… unfair at best.

As long as you keep comparing what is not comparable you won’t give you a chance to put in perspective the current Alpha state.

Again CIG do have now the right team size, pipelines and is going to deliver by end of the year the core tech required to expand SC: OCS + Bind culling.

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I have this feeling when it does release, it’ll be to little fanfare since most of it has already been shown off. Most anything remembered will be the controversy. That’s all that will fill the Wikipedia page Ala Duke Nukem Forever. A fart in the vacuum of space.

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You’re hearing about it because it’s news, not because RSI is hyping it to the uninterested. At this point, there’s no doubt in my mind that it will release even if it’s massively disappointing. If you want to see why I’m confident (and you’re not already a backer), log in next time they have a freefly weekend and see what they’ve got in the build already. As a backer who only put in as much as I was willing to lose, I don’t care about the controversies unless they involve criminal offenses or studio shutdowns.

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Cosmic Cleric

Is anyone else now sick of hearing about SC? Put up or shut up. Release it or fuck off and stop annoying me.

I’m more sick of hearing people bitch about how long it’s taking, fraud, etc.

Just STFU and let it play out, see if they can deliver. Use a relevant completion duration measurement, plus some extra time, in case they are an outlier on that scale. After that time, if they can’t, then grab the pitchforks and torches, and storm the castle.

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Kevin McCaughey

People shouldn’t do this. We don’t need to descend to this level: the game has enough problems without the need to invent more.

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mike foster

:)

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Though judging by your avatars character you should be eating overcooked meat drunkenly with your bare hands.

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mike foster

i left my bowling pins at home tho

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LOL

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Kevin McCaughey

/sadfanboirantover

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https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Derek_Smart

Way to go there Bree “reporting” that tabloid truth for the clicks.

You just linked Encyclopedia Dramatica and then criticized someones reporting in the same paragraph. I’m have to lie down now.

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“I stopped reporting on departing team members awhile back because it was drawing too much attention to them, which then tended to devolve into some of the toxic backers attacking them for abandoning the project,” he explains.

So much for that.

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dsmart

Just like JP, he too made it public over a week ago. Get a grip.

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So…you admit to being a liar then?

“I stopped reporting on departing team members awhile back because it was drawing too much attention to them, which then tended to devolve into some of the toxic backers attacking them for abandoning the project,” he explains.

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cmdr_cotic

What he is saying is that he’s not making any posts about people who leave the company quietly. If someone publicly states they have left the company then he is willing to tweet that information.

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Kevin McCaughey

Exactly, but it is probably a dichotomy this fanboi cannot grasp.

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dsmart

Exactly, but it is probably a dichotomy this fanboi cannot grasp.

No – they understand. They just don’t care.

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Bruno Brito

I don’t think it was you. I just think you enable this behavior, and like you said: You live for this stuff.

I thought you lived by being a developer.

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dsmart

What he is saying is that he’s not making any posts about people who leave the company quietly. If someone publicly states they have left the company then he is willing to tweet that information.

Precisely.

I even gave the same example in JPs case (he first made it public on Spectrum), right there in the Tweet that the story linked to. I even took a screen cap of my FB statement, without linking to the original source. And that FB thread first appeared on Spectrum.

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FYI, Vertice is the same guy who is a mod on a new /r/starcitizendrama Reddit which just so happens to be all about Derek Smart. Again. They will never learn that I LIVE for this stuff; and that they’re my own personal private PR army.

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lol…yes Derek. It’s all about you.

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dsmart

lol…yes Derek. It’s all about you.

5 threads :

2 about Derek Smart

1 about Derek Smart, cross-posted from a shutdown hate-Sub

1 about a Shillizen made video in which a majority of the posts is you guys claiming Derek Smart was responsible for the Glassdoor review

That’s 4/5

Yes, I know – math is hard.

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Must be, since you repeatedly fail at it. Don’t forget, Derek. It’s all about you!

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Utakata

Why would anyone do this? SC has enough glaring issues that is does not need anyone to make crap up about it. Could they not take the time to simply point those out? Making stuff up only serves to strengthen CiG’s position on the game in the end, as opposed to affecting any meaningful change for the better.

Furthermore…

“Before you leap to the conclusion that everyone’s favorite Internet Warlord is responsible…”

That doesn’t seem to be Mr. Smart’s MO. He more simply seizes upon the project’s weakness and trolls it out for his own nefarious purposes. And by the /upvotes he’s getting of late, he doesn’t need to make shit up under a different alias, lol.

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Bruno Brito

That doesn’t seem to be Mr. Smart’s MO. He more simply seizes upon the project’s weakness and trolls it out for his own nefarious purposes. And by the /upvotes he’s getting of late, he doesn’t need to make shit up under a different alias, lol.

Because this is actually serious. Using a name of someone known to spill crap over the entire project is a crime. If he was really the mastermind of this debacle, he wouldn’t be so stupid as to plaster his name with it. Derek’s ego isn’t enough that he would go to jail over something this idiotic.

Why would anyone do this? SC has enough glaring issues that is does not need anyone to make crap up about it. Could they not take the time to simply point those out? Making stuff up only serves to strengthen CiG’s position on the game in the end, as opposed to affecting any meaningful change for the better.

Don’t ask me. Both sides are morons, from what i see. No one at Derek’s side wants the game to improve, they want it to die. And i don’t see CIG being any better, given they got 5 years, 200million dollars, which is a sum of money most indie devs won’t ever see, and yet, he got what, an Alpha and concepts of a toilet system?

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Utakata

Even without any legal implications, I can’t see Mr. Smart pulling something like that off. He doesn’t need too.

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dsmart

Even without any legal implications, I can’t see Mr. Smart pulling something like that off. He doesn’t need too.

Not at all.

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Why did the avatar of Derek suddenly look at me and wink like dead Georgie’s photo from the original “IT” miniseries???!

HEEELLLLPPPP!!!!

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dsmart

Why did the avatar of Derek suddenly look at me and wink like dead Georgie’s photo from the original “IT” miniseries???!

HEEELLLLPPPP!!!!

LOL!!

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Bruno Brito

Agreed. The game has issues enough he doesn’t.

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dsmart

Because this is actually serious. Using a name of someone known to spill crap over the entire project is a crime.

Since when was posting a fake review a crime? You’re not from around here, huh?

Also, the review did NOT have his name in it. So there is NO evidence that anyone was pretending to be him. It’s anon. Do you know what the difference is? Probably not.

We (Goons) picked up the issue because someone spotted it. And as things thing go, once I Tweeted it, all hell broke loose. I did in fact caution in my Tweet that it could very well be fake. I would have left it at that had JP not denied it on Facebook, in which I got tagged and then responded.

If he was really the mastermind of this debacle, he wouldn’t be so stupid as to plaster his name with it. Derek’s ego isn’t enough that he would go to jail over something this idiotic.

Oh you mean like all the stuff I write on social media, in my blogs, articles etc, and which you all keep claiming is illegal, I should be sued, arrested etc. Funny how today marks the 3rd year anniversary of the July Blog that started it all, but so far, nobody has sued me. I wonder why that is.

I would still like to know which criminal statute you think would be cited for the arrest and jailing of someone writing a fake trolling review.

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Bruno Brito

I’m not from around you are. Where i am from, “ideological falsity” ( if that’s the correct term ) is a huge deal.

Smart, deep down, i actually respect you a bit. You are like my father. He’s a disgraceful asshole, but he’s extremely good at that, and if there’s something i respect is competent people at a field they actually want to be good.

Don’t take this as me complimenting your developing career. I’m not.

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dsmart

That doesn’t seem to be Mr. Smart’s MO. He more simply seizes upon the project’s weakness and trolls it out for his own nefarious purposes. And by the /upvotes he’s getting of late, he doesn’t need to make shit up under a different alias, lol.

Nope, not my style. People who know me well enough over the years, know that I will never – ever – hide behind an alias. For max effect and outrage, I like to put my name to things that I write; mostly because I have yet to see a hill I didn’t want to die on. :)

Plus given ALL my blogs, articles, Tweets and incessant trolling of the toxic backer base, a fake Glassdoor review is beneath me. Plus, why would I do that when I can just as well write an article, and put all that shit in there?

It’s the age-old nonsense whereby those clowns see me in every shadow because, you know, I’m the only person on the planet who is trolling them and the project, or who has dissenting opinions. I mean, they have to keep making things up because it’s not as if they have a videogame they could be playing.

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Joe Blobers

True your are not in every shadow even of haters. Fact is Glassdoor has never been a proof of anything while your blog and thousands of Twist proved you are incompetent as you have never been able to apply to yourself what you describe as best practices. Gamers and backers at large ignore you.

Liars and toxic individual are far to be localized in Glassdoor reviews :)

Meanwhile 3.2 is here, and two more patch by end of 2018 are coming. Keep jumping in all direction.

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dsmart

Joe, since you can’t seem to ever make a post without personal attacks, we’re just going to keep flagging them for removal.

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Joe Blobers

D. calling others clowns does not sound like very friendly. But may be you prefer to make global attack rather than personnal?

Indeed you disrespect gamers since two decades already by serving them the very same “game” under different titles but still have the audacity to call SC a scam.
You never have been the spokesman of backers or gamers so the “we” you use is pretty funny :)

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Bruno Brito

Altho i don’t think there are lines DS won’t cross, i don’t think this was him. The guy just has too big of a ego to actually go anonymous with this. He would love a chance to discredit CIG with his own name ( haha ).

Now, i wouldn’t put above him that this is one of his sad followers trolling the company. While DS may have some “conditions”, his fanbase has none.

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When that guy got a death threat against his family for taking a swipe at CIG, a lot of the loony fans were claiming it was somebody pretending to be a real fan trying to dirty their name.
If we were to use that logic now it would mean a real fan falsified this letter to make it seem like the haters were doing it….

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i mean that’s ht ekind of dumb shit these people do tho. on both “sides” to each other on the regular. on teh flipisde they also actually do the things too. so it’s really any one’s guesses which did what when half the time with these people and all they do is poison everything they touch.

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cmdr_cotic

It happens on occassion but it’s also a very convenient method of dirtying the waters to avoid any culpability.

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Bruno Brito

Yeah.

Here’s the thing: I actually believe there are lows too low for DS that even he wouldn’t consider. Since his real name is linked to everything, and he tends to make enemies everywhere he treads, the guy is nothing if not relatively careful. Everything he says has a dash of care, if when he keeps his ego in check.

That’s where his fanbase comes in. I’m not saying that the SC backers aren’t rabid idiots, most of them are. This game is nowhere near launch, yet it had the money and time for small countries to develop.

But this is something between SC and it’s backers, not between Chris and Derek. DS isn’t dumb. He knows that when he says something, he has a legion of followers to tread that walk without putting him in harm’s way.

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cmdr_cotic

Does he even have a legion of followers? The goons seem to use and abuse him for their enjoyment but I wouldn’t call them a fanbase. If there’s a loyal, doting crew it must be pretty small imo.

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dsmart

Does he even have a legion of followers? The goons seem to use and abuse him for their enjoyment

That nonsense never gets old. You do realize we just laugh each time you guys come up such nonsense, right? But you do you.

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Armsman

That nonsense never gets old. You do realize we just laugh each time you guys come up such nonsense, right? But you do you.

Pot…meet Kettle.

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Bruno Brito

Nah, of course he does. Again, i don’t think he’s stupid. He’s actually a cunning guy.

He’s just dishonest, a blemish upon this already sad industry and has the ego almost the size of the bugs in his games.

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dsmart

When that guy got a death threat against his family for taking a swipe at CIG, a lot of the loony fans were claiming it was somebody pretending to be a real fan trying to dirty their name.
If we were to use that logic now it would mean a real fan falsified this letter to make it seem like the haters were doing it….

Yup. And it happens all the time. Heck, even on the refunds sub-reddit, they used to post fake refunds (e.g. that $45K one) in order to (in their minds) somehow discredit the validity of the actual refunds being posted there. And two people actually admitted to doing it. We just did what we do. We laughed at the stupidity of those who think they were actually hurting opposing narrative, rather than drawing unwanted attention (the $45K refund made some gaming news headlines) to the project. But these are the same guys who gave thousands of Dollars to an on-going scam. So.

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Joe Blobers

Quote:”they used to post fake refunds (e.g. that $45K one) in order to (in their minds) somehow discredit the validity ”

Except it is another of your permanent obfuscation. There is nothing that prove it.
However fact is subreddit refund has always been as reliable as Glassdoor… or as credible than your on-going scam story.

How long time before collapse by the way? Because you are just 3 years and half late :)

Jealousy his so hideous.