Defiance 2050 works on a new co-op map while player interest declines

    
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It is probably fair to say that Defiance 2050’s reboot hasn’t exactly shaken up the online gaming world — or even made much of a difference for the game franchise itself. The title continues to slip in popularity on Steam, currently hovering around a high concurrency of 1,000 on a daily basis.

The dev team said that it’s working to shore up the product: “We’re focusing heavily on all the bug fixes and server updates. I’m sure you’ve seen some of the hotfixes we’ve put in. We’re continuing to work on those, that’s our our top priority right now to get stability, connection issues, critical errors.”

But there’s more coming in the future, such as co-op maps for players to enjoy together. Also, Defiance 2050 is coming out in Germany on PlayStation 4 on July 25th, so have fun with that Germany! Find out more about the future of the game with the dev livestream below.

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Digital SanBR

Justin Olivetii, I wonder if you would be willing to interview some of the veterans of OLDefiance in the forums. We currently have threads there that go about 8,000 views, 100 pages, hundreds of users… and Trion simply ignores them. All that you said in your article + all the comments here speak the truth, but Trion won’t hear it. You could actully help the community and this game, because our current “CM” does absolutely nothing for us, he’s just a Trion employee like all others.

There are 3 threads alone solely on the topic of character/loadout slots that we were misled to believe would transfer from OLDefiance to 2050. I made a detailed analysys of this particular subject, hope it gets through to someone:

Defiance 2050 Valor FAQ misled us

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JC Denton

Played in D50 Closed Betas (two of them) as well as the pre-release Open Beta. Did NOT pay for the Early Access Founder trash that they threw out there.

First Closed Beta had significant performance issues that were resolved fully by the 3rd day (the last day of the beta). Second one went much better and things hummed along quite smoothly and I was excited to see how things would play out. Open Beta was a clusterpork of bile and misery with servers so overloaded that they felt like it was 56k modems running the server show.

If anyone is asking? No they changed nothing in the ~3 months between the first Closed Beta and the actual launch. They ‘added in’ some classes and tweaked a few minor bits (skills for the Assault and Guardian changed slightly) but otherwise they might as well have spent the ~3 months with their thumbs up their arses.

So early access launch happens and it is a dumpster fire. Most people demanding refunds (and many are getting them). About 3 days later on July 10th is the official launch and it is basically unplayable until July 16th after most people left in disgust and they lost 85% or more of their initial player interest.

Of the remaining 15% of players, I count myself as one that has had it with the server issues, latency issues, ‘performance hitches’ where the game freezes for a second or two randomly during gameplay (which never happened in the earlier betas or even the open pre-release beta). Like their patches are being rushed out untested and unfinished to the point where we are basically glorified unpaid testers (with some dorks having paid into things and paying to be testers).

I don’t see Defiance 2050 surviving past August when the new WoW expansion basically puts all other games on hold until the Nov/Dec shopping season this winter.
Trion already has gotten a terrible reputation for how poorly they’ve handled other prior games time and time and time and time again. ArcheAge, Rift, Devilian, and so on.

Then they decided to acquire the remnants of Marvel Heroes, fire about 15 people (without warning/notice), and position themselves for a potential acquisition by an Asian overlord like Tencent and/or Perfect World Entertainment.

I quit Defiance 2050 once the most recent patch ninja-changed things so that co-op dungeons now REQUIRE an ark key to open the chest at the end; if no key then all you get are whatever trash the mobs might drop as well as a bunch of scrap. I was able to obtain and use a key WITHOUT cost as a free player when I ran a co-op dungeon prior to this change.

They want new co-ops? How many are going to do them with ZERO chance of getting loot? And here I thought the ’10 keys per day) greed of FunCom was terrible but damn. Trion really takes the cake.

I’m done with the company. gPotato is (finally) dead but Trion seems to be carrying on their legacy. Game is losing players? Let’s just turn the dial up on greed and not care!

I wanted to love Defiance 2050 since I had no attachment to the original but this is just a waste of my fucking time.

Hey Mobi, you might wanna start looking for a new job before they get rid of you and whatever other employees they have left at the Trion company.

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Nick Sniperado

The company is managed by plain idiots. They fired everyone tallented who had some vision and they wants to do same with the players. Fire the old and gather new, but it doesn’t work that way.

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K38FishTacos

But it’s at least the second flush, so it’s circling in the backwash…

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Sorenthaz

My question is why they rushed this out. Were they really that desperate to make some money asap that they couldn’t get the game to a satisfactory launch state?

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Veldan

Ah, the question that has been asked about every MMO launch in the last 10+ years

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Danny Smith

A lot of folks seem to think Trions long term prospects aren’t looking so hot so they wanted some boost for the year but this bombing along with the cost of the gazillion stuff is probably having them end the year in a much worse place than they hoped.

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Sorenthaz

Trion is going about it in all the wrong ways though. They keep half-assing things and then try to sell folks stuff they already paid for ages ago (in RIFT Prime they try to sell you the pets/mounts you would get through stuff like the Collector’s Edition and events that weren’t put into Prime (i.e. Carnival of the Ascended’s Aurora mount); in Defiance 2050 they expect you to buy all the inventory slots you bought/unlocked in Defiance). It’s no wonder they’re tanking and things look bleak, because they can’t make any good decisions without coming off as halfhearted attempts to get more money out of folks who used to enjoy their games.

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Bruno Brito

Considering that most Trion’s game now live in mediocrity limbo, i kinda understand why they are desperate.

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squid

They announced the launch date before they even started any testing. It was all about some quick money—not sustained success.

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Sorenthaz

Esp. since they’re reselling things folks already bought/unlocked in Defiance and didn’t actually let veterans fully carry over the things that would make sense to get carried over in order to, y’know, retain player loyalty and not utterly piss off older players.

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Bruno Brito

I don’t even think they actually wasted much in doing this “reboot”. It really feels like milking a relaunch of a already dead game.

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Mewmew

They said they were transferring purchased upgrades, and so everybody thought their inventory upgrades were being transferred as well. Technically the careful wording they used meant they didn’t have to transfer inventory upgrades, and in the end they didn’t. That was a huge blow to old players, and made a lot of them lose interest.

People lost enough already at the re-launch, they had to make it worth the old players time to transfer over. They didn’t really do so.

They expected players were going to re-buy the inventory upgrades, but instead many just quit.

Obviously that wasn’t the only reason, there were lots, but for many people that was the last straw that sent them packing.

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Sorenthaz

Yeah, this is the same reason why I got irritated with RIFT Prime – Trion tried to go “remember those mounts you have in RIFT normal? Well for 2,500 gems you can get it here too!”

I don’t know why in their right mind they think they can get away with trying to resell things to folks.

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Brother Maynard

Same crap as before, but this time without the benefit of following the story of Trion’s village idiot in charge of Defiance, a.k.a. its executive producer. At least that part was fun:

1) enthusiastic blog post
2) more enthusiastic blog post
3) super enthusiastic blog post on caffeine, pulling random promises out of his ass
4) “Don’t worry guys, we’re just starting – our future is bright!”
5) damn, he’s fired…

Totally reminds me of Ted Lasso.

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scrapper

Played for a few hours, found it to be very rough around the edges. Aiming, movement and overall combat doesn’t feel right. Graphics and sounds are almost OG Xbox/Playstaion 2 era but running in a higher resolution. Just seems like a very low budget game.

Not to say it doesn’t have it’s moments, there is some fun to be had but it’s not something I can see competing with Warframe or Destiny.

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cursedseishi

The problem is they are doing the exact opposite of what we see being done with something like the Resident Evil 2 Remake. They’d gone on to say Defiance 2050 was rebuilt from the ground up as a remake, but it feels like a poorly done port. I wouldn’t say the graphics are Xbox/PS2, but they are still largely the exact same as Defiance’s original release on 360 with a touch up here or there.

Even back then, the gameplay was rough. The fun largely came from playing with friends and little else. 2050 needed more than a shift of pixels and scrapping their original character development system in favor of cash-shopping the everloving crap out of classes. But I feel like 2.050 was a cheap method to drop OG defiance and re-monetize the game on current gen hardware, and it followed suit. They KNEW nobody would pay for it as it looks, so they are junking the initial price and hoping every pours in off OG Defiance to spend more money again in the new Defiance.

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scrapper

I may have exaggerated with the Xbox/PS2 but it definitely feels like a step behind Gears 1 on 360 in both controls and looks. Having said that, I 100% understand the frustration a lot of original Defiance players have with 2050. The “Remaster” into 2050 very much feels like a typical F2P transition from a subscription mmo in the past except those didn’t do a server wipe or loss of payed items.

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cursedseishi

Oh no I definitely understand the hyperbole there. it was definitely behind Gears of War 1, which is a shame considering the large gap of time between their respective release dates. Part of that could be handwaved as Defiance was Trion’s first console title, as well as their first TPS-styled game. But that only goes so far… Ugly models and jank can be excused once, but trying the same exact thing a second time years later? Not so much.

I wasn’t a hardcore Defiance player. I bought it early on release, drove around with friends in the game every so often and blew stuff up… But there’s no engaging content. And the connection with the show–which I made myself watch every now and then–was so tenuous that it felt like the money spent on their “Cross-Media Synergy” would of been better spent honing the game and smoothing it all out. And with the rest of the issues… it’s sadly just gone to become “Trion being Trion”.

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Sorenthaz

It really doesn’t feel at all like they rebuilt it from the ground up, and if they really did such then they could’ve taken more time to add new things into the game rather than just butcher the EGO grid and toss the pieces into different classes.

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cursedseishi

Agreed, and in all honestly I feel as though Trion shouldn’t of been tossing the word “remake” around so blatantly either, or encouraged the press to label it as such. It is barely a remastering of the original version… Which is disappointing. If they introduced some proper weight and impact to movement and the guns, if they kept the original open-ended EGO system and instead tightened up some of the slack and waste in it… It could of been good, maybe.

At the very least, they could of used the hindsight to tighten up the story, and either dump the show tie-ins completely or produce some newer original content in-game so that random-Nathan-Fillion’s-Mal-wannabee isn’t so completely and utterly obviously useless to the game’s story whilst also being given special treatment.

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Nick Sniperado

just like raiders:

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seculaparsec

2018. Year of cashgrabs.

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Greaterdivinity

For a relaunch that they barely touched, I’m legitimately surprised at how unstable their servers are and apparently how unstable the client is across the board, especially on consoles.

Can’t say I’m surprised to see that this relaunch landed with more of a thud (at least on PC) and is running into all kinds of problems. Half-ass a relaunch, deal with half-assed problems : /

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Sorenthaz

Not to mention they didn’t give anything worthwhile to their vets, expecting them to re-purchase all the inventory slots they once had.

Trion just looks like they’re trying to make a quick buck because they were too poor to give the game a proper reboot/sequel.

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Greaterdivinity

Yup. I already had near zero interest given that nothing was really improved in the game, but learning that you basically get hard-fucked by inventory spacing and then learning that they apparently REMOVED some of the S2/3 specific content from the show (haven’t confirmed, but saw a few people independently mention it) and my interest plummeted into the negative.

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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Armsman

I’ve missed you Schlag. Spot on here. ;)