Epic’s Tim Sweeney argues that Fortnite won’t be on the play store because of openness

    
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Did you think that Fortnite’s announced decision to avoid the Google Play store was just about money? Just because, you know, that was one of the reasons explicitly cited? Epic’s CEO Tim Sweeney is walking that back and arguing that it’s not about that and it’s not about clones. In his words, it’s a matter of keeping parity between all of the platforms, and since Google doesn’t offer any sort of marketing push like console titles, he doesn’t see why Epic should distribute the game through the Play store.

Sweeney stresses that there is cross-purchase functionality between the various platforms of Fortnite (which is broadly accurate) and that the company would avoid the iOS marketplace as well if it were possible. He also states that the company is aware of concerns over spending limits, which will supposedly be addressed via the game not locking in payment methods after individual purchases. No word about phone security or avoiding malicious software, though. It’s still going to be a controversial decision, but it doesn’t appear the company is walking it back any time soon.

Source: Polygon
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Sally Bowls

My first surprise are the people balking at the 30%. I buy mmos from the publisher not steam since I prefer the pub get “100”% not 70. But most gamers are / used to be pro steam. Only a handful of companies are gigantic enough to make non-mmos for the pc. A dev in a gamasutra piece said he was not an indie dev but a dev for a proprietary platform. Apple iOS and google play and steam and both console stores take cuts. There are even growing Microsoft and apple stores to sell pc software. With all the Microsoft Windows malware I can even see the appeal of having kids and employees use the Microsoft store for apps. Idk but think that is almost required for Surface apps

It is not 100 vs 70. The infrastructure to reliable lay, securablely, scalabely do ecommerce in dozens of countries is not cheap even though at a certain scale it is less than thirty percent

While I get the financial incentives, IMO a lot of people going and downloading non google store app is not a good thing. This is them putting their 30% ahead of their customers security – I think this is a bad thing, yes, if the customer is as knowledgeable, careful and wise as you, there is no risk. But the statistics show security mistakes happen

P.s. openness vs $ did not strike me as at all credible

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Bryan Correll

Dude, I didn’t care that you were doing in as a purely financial decision. Now you gotta annoy me be claiming that’s not the case.

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Crowe

His reasoning makes no sense. Money, yes. Openness, not at all. The more of a PITA it is to get an app, the far less likely that it will:
A. be chanced upon and tried out by a potential new customer
B. be located and downloaded by someone looking casually

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k2apa

“the company would avoid the iOS marketplace as well if it were possible”

so… this means they didn’t want to release the game on Mobile in the first place…

Which means… there must be a reason for such release.

And that reason being… ?????????????????????????

Money, LUL… CEO… C omEgalul O

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Tobasco da Gama

The Play Store is like a negative value-add for both customers and developers at this point. It’s a lot like Steam, in that sense. If you’re big enough to handle your own CDN stuff for patching — which Epic is with Fortnite by now — then you have nothing to gain and a 30% cut of your gross to lose by going through Google or Valve.

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PurpleCopper

Right… sure it’s not about the money….

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Witches

This is beyond stupid, exactly where are they going to advertise, because most advertising on the internet is done through Google.

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traja

Money is something that game companies always think about but almost never talk about. Unless they are reporting to stockholders or investors. Other than that it is always some nonsense like “player choice” or “openness”. I wish they were more honest about these things but I guess I understand the PR issues that it would bring.

Other than that I have no problem with this move by Epic. They have no moral obligation to give Google anything. Also it is entirely on Google if the security of their operating system relies solely on a store with a 30% cut. That is the evil type of greed in this story.

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Godnaz

Great move on Epic’s part. Google doesn’t deserve 30% just because it’s on their operating system. As for Fortnite, played 4 or 5 sessions. Dont understand all the hype. Think I’m gong to uninstall since no one in my group plays.

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Andy McAdams

All of your free google services beg to differ.

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Mark Mealman

Google’s free services isn’t Epic’s responsibility, anymore than Massively needs to give 30% of it’s revenue to the creators of PHP and Mysql.

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Andy McAdams

My point is that money has to come from somewhere. Not that it’s anyone’s ‘responsibility’

Just the fact that you (generic you), as a consumer, benefit from the 30%

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k2apa

Yea, do you own a America Express Credit Card?

Same deal here.

AMEX gives consumer loads of benefits, why? because it charges companies that runs it’s card through their CC machines about 30~50% more than VISA, MASTERCARD and DISCOVER CARD.

So… maybe you should throw away your AMEX if your way of thinking is like that.

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Crowe

Yeah, I tossed my AMEX over 20 years ago.

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Sally Bowls

Amex charges a bit more. But if I charge $1000 on my

Visa

card then instead of paying $1000 today I pay $985 in about 45 days. Some give airline flights miles instead of cash. Both of those benefits to me cost the credit card company money. Monday which is charged the merchant which passes the costs on. Arguablely the buyers who use cash are subsidizing my credit card rewards. But it would be inefficient for me to forgoe the 1,6%ish discount.

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Bryan Correll

Many companies don’t accept AMEX for those reasons. Epic does accept it though.

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Sorenthaz

Good lord he needs to stop trying to make excuses. 90% of the Fortnite population probably won’t give a care because they’re too young. Everyone else sees it for what it is and it sounds like a dumb move even on paper driven mostly by money. ’cause if it did land on the Play Store you sure as heck would see it pushed to the front page and advertised regularly.