LOTRO adds more lockboxes and changes up endgame currency

    
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In a recent livestream, Lord of the Rings Online CM Jerry Snook explained some of the more confusing changes coming with Update 23, most notably the adjustments to Ashes of Enchantment (which will be called “motes” going forward). These motes are used to buy older high-level gear, while Update 23’s new (and better) gear will be available only for new “ember” currency.

And hey, wouldn’t you know that a new lootbox is also arriving with Update 23 that have the possibility to pay out in embers. Lootboxes! Contain your excitement! The studio said that it is looking to “further differentiate” lootbox gear with Tier 1 dungeon gear in response to the feedback it has received.

The community wasn’t that thrilled with the heavy focus on lockboxes and the overload of currency types, with one player posting a response that criticized the addition and Standing Stone Games’ attitude toward this.

This is neither here nor there, but the Farmer’s Faire is now running in the game through September 10th.

 

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Jack Pipsam

Well considering they didn’t included the advertised expansion race with the expansion, who’s surprised they’ll keep being scungy?

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cambruin

No such thing as bad publicity.
Right?

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xpsync

Don’t these developers know that even speaking the word lockbox will do in your game?

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Jacquotte Fox Kline

It should be noted that the BiS claims in the sketchy complaint video are false (among other things). From the 8/21 patch notes: “Gear from lootboxes has been adjusted. The highest base level they can drop is now item level 370 Incomparable gear. Tier 1 and 2 difficulty Grey Mountains Instances. These pieces of gear range from base item level 375 to 380.”

This patch was after the video, but Cord’s comment suggests that BiS was not intended. So this video is already outdated (see – BETA) and shouldn’t have been linked here, really, a week later. And why the alarmist tone of this article, when it’s really just another tier of boxes and ashes? “More” makes it sound worse, but is it any different?

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GumpsGang

Thank you for pointing that out. I actually went back to the video and cringed. There is nothing wrong with voicing opposition to lockboxes (of course). But to do so with very skewed, out-dated, and incorrect data from testing (and SSG does make adjustments from feedback) cheapens the argument. I love the work Justin does usually, but it’s off the mark this time. **sad Gump**

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Vincent Clark

Actually, he’s spot on. In just so happens you don’t agree with the criticism. Kind of cheapens your counter argument (such as it was).

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Vincent Clark

Except for the fact that they’ve made the “BiS was not ‘intended'” comment before, only to find out that wasn’t true and they’ve had to walk it back. And you conveniently left off the fact that the loot-box gear has the chance to be upgraded up to 5 levels–making it equal to that of gear dropping in Tier 1 instances. They are different loot-boxes, added to the ones they’ve added before…are you honestly going to try and argue that it’s not “more”?

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GumpsGang

I watched a few for vids for updates, I’m just not going to come close to agreeing with this type of analysis. It feels very skewed like it has an agenda and just leaves out information that does not support that agenda.

I’m up-to-date on current and beta game information. Isn’t the BiS is not T1 gear. Having a low chance to meet T1 is not the best counter-argument.

Also, why are you “making” me argue for the lock box. I’m saying for us not to overhype stuff (like some new outlets) and just keep with what is actually there.

FYI — I just the DRAMA in that video at the end. It felt almost like a raider saying, I’m going to take my toys and go home. :(

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Vincent Clark

I have no agenda. My argument is a simple one. Loot-boxes (of this nature) do not belong in LotRO. Period. There is a plethora of well informed resources that will break down the manipulative and greedy nature of loot-boxes and what they do to the gaming community. Even to those, like you, whose argument seems to be, “well, I didn’t need them, so what is the issue?” That is a very short-sighted and limited perspective. Bottom line, $$G will continue to develop content in a certain way in the hopes that some players either out of boredom, impatience or just limited playing time will fork over cash for a key and open a loot-box to alleviate any type of grind or potential road blocks. All of which, $$G is responsible for creating in the first place. Where is the fun in that? Once you acknowledge that intent, it takes all the fun–and the trust in the company–out of it. It’s essentially a slap in the face for subscribers and long term players who are already forking over cash on a regular basis. And this isn’t some kick-starter game, this is an 11 year old game with (supposedly) veteran developers at the wheel–and this is their fresh new idea to increase revenue…loot-boxes?

As for evidence, look at the numbers. The game saw a small bump in population numbers after Mordor launched, but quickly and quite sharply fell to numbers actually below the expansion launch…and have been slowly, steadily decreasing ever since. That tells you all you need to know.

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squid

Ya’ll got Snookered.

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Tobasco da Gama

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

If I hadn’t just canceled my sub because the dreary slog of Mordor put me off playing, I think this would have been the last straw.

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Amorey

“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” – J.R.R.Tolkien

Sad to see how Lotro has lost its soul :(

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Bango on Laurelin

Hey there Amorey! Are you enjoying BFA?

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Amorey

Yes I am , BFA is fun which is good ;)

Hope all is well with you Bango, always nice to see you hobbit :)

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GumpsGang

Dearest MassivelyOp-type-folk,

I hope you all are doing well! Here are some thoughts to share on the topic at hand.

I’m neutral on the lockbox in LOTRO. Not a fan of lockboxes, but I love the game. I am real about things and don’t greatly exaggerated the effect of them in game.

SSG has been very clear thus far that the best loot needs to be earned in-game. They have been responsive this far to testing feedback in regards to this. It seems the dev team open to feedback.

A little more background on where I coming from in my point of view. I play the game every week and have never had to buy a key to keep up. The game just keeps throwing them at you for free. (I have 50+ unused keys at this point and I’m being fairly lazy about earning them). However, someone must be buying them. Otherwise, why bother with keys.

The game community is very strong (most will not post on game forums, and I’m sure we all know why). The community is still the Heart of LOTRO as is always was. To new players, don’t worry overmuch about the lockboxes. You don’t need to buy keys, you’ll earn all you need once it’s time (more of a supplement than the main way to get gear at level cap).

Have fun everyone!

Best wishes,

GumpsGang

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Vincent Clark

if only there was a thumbs down option…

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Weilan

Think of it like that garbage facebook – if there was a thumbs down button, the narcissists will have a nervous breakdown.

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GumpsGang

I shall NOT be swayed easily from voicing my opinion, sir. I stand by my recommendation that …
1) players should NOT buy keys. Just play the game and have fun.
2) LOTRO has a strong community that is its HEART.

… you can feel however you wish about the topic (of course) …

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Vincent Clark

1) but they will, because $$G has designed the loot/gear progression (tedious/far too grindy) to the extent that a loot-box seems like a welcome alternative, sadly. Let’s not pretend that gearing up isn’t a vital component of an MMORPG.
2) it used to, but that too has faded into the West.

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Bango on Laurelin

Indeed. All anyone has to do is compare the catch up features that were in WoW legion to lotro to see how SSG have designed the game content to punish those who are behind the content curve.

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Roger Melly

Do you actually play Lotro out of interest Vincent ?

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Paragon Lost

“The game just keeps throwing them at you for free. (I have 50+ unused keys at this point”
-Gumpsgang”

Want me to take you seriously, don’t make BS claims. I log in daily and have yet to have them give me a black key or throw them at me. I get keys two ways currently if you don’t count the store. A twice a week quest where you have to go and do eight other quests. Or the ever tedious shard quests in the ever annoying Mordor area.

I don’t get them from dungeon instances because no one wants a champion tank and I refuse to change how I rolled up my champion back in June of 2007. The mechanics support it and that’s how I play him. Don’t even get me started on the whole way most players run dungeons instances in Lotro, where they only will accept certain classes/specs, whole another topic.

TLDR: They don’t throw them at you, stop being hyperbolic and try accurate statements if you want anyone to take your comments seriously.

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Tuor of Gondolin

This is why I quit LotRO. Their cash shop is *way* too intrusive, and that’s without even talking about the lootboxes. I guess SSG wants to wring whatever they can get before they go down for good. A sad way for this IP to end in its MMO incarnation.