Will you be paying for Xbox All Access, Microsoft’s latest Xbox sub?

    
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Would you – or do you already – pay a sub for a console? Microsoft is banking on it, doubling down on its existing Xbox system: Yesterday the megacorp revealed Xbox All Access, a new sub service that basically combines the Game Pass and Xbox Live Gold subs with a sub for the actual device. It’s a bit like a phone contract: Pay your $22/$35 monthly fee for two years, get access to 100-odd games, and get your Xbox – which remains yours at the end of it all.

“For no upfront cost and one low monthly price for 24 months^, Xbox All Access gets you a new Xbox One S or Xbox One X, access to more than 100 great games through Xbox Game Pass, and online multiplayer with Xbox Live Gold. That’s more than 100 all-you-can-play games—including highly-anticipated new Xbox One exclusives the day they’re released, plus more games added all the time— the fastest, most reliable gaming network and an Xbox One console.”

Xbox One aficionados have already pointed out that the Xbox One S deal is the better one, saving you $130 or so over the two years, assuming the console price doesn’t change at all in that time period, which may not be a great bet here in 2018. Is this appealing to you folks as MMORPGs whatsoever?

Source: Xbox, GIbiz. Cheers, Sally!
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Eboni

I would totally do this. My kids have been asking for one and I promised them one for Christmas. I’m a PC player but we use my old PS3 for watching hulu and netflix and occasionally playing DCUO (until they stopped supporting it). So, it’ll be an upgrade for us.

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Anthony Clark

Nope.
And it’s not a sub. It’s just financing plain and simple.

Subs for gaming is SO old. Who pays for gaming monthly now?! Pshh

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Armsbend

If you believe the business pundits, then everyone will soon.

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Anthony Clark

There are still bunches of F2P titles out there.

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Ville Uusitalo

I contacted MS customer support on this and they sayd that the product is not available in Finland YET.

They just opened the offer so they are possibly looking for other market areas as well – later.

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rogbarz

One aspect many people forget is that Xbox and Xbox live are not a global full fledged service. Many countries with a stable/growing purchasing power are just being ignored. In those countries there are often several 100k up to 1mil+ playstations sold. Microsoft being behind in sales is also im[acted because of this.

The excuse that you can change region and etc is a poor one, many people get one of their kids without knowing this.

At this moment they support 32 countries …

Microsoft should focus on delivering a global service first instead of releasing USA only things.

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donvweel

I think it is a very smart move by microsoft. They are losing in sales against playstation and this is a good deal for those who can benefit. I would consider it but I would want to see more game titles and developers comming over to xbox. Being able to play a complete smorgasboard for one monthly price plus the latest in hardware tech is appealing. Especially since most of the games are not worth owning. If you have the cash to spend up front, you could do better buying a refurb or discounted xbox saving around $100 instead of around$20.

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Armsbend

Coming from the red rings era – I’d never consider a MS manufactured refurb. They making incredibly low quality products.

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Grifter17

You’ve been a little out of touch with MS Hardware this generation, even the lesser powered 2013 release XB1 was whisper quiet compared to the Jet Engine PS4 the XB1S and XB1X are superb pieces of hardware that outshine the better selling PS4S and PS4Pro

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Armsbend

I admittedly am a little out of touch. Because of the aforementioned problem. It left a taste in my mouth that has at least a few years left. I won’t get this gen’s product. Maybe the next one if it’s worth considering.

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Roger Melly

Unfortunately it’s not available in the UK . I probably would have considered it if it was .

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rafael12104

So, I don’t own an Xbox One X, but I would like one. Would this be a way to ensure I get one for a monthly rate including all the games I would want to play including exclusives like Black Desert? Is that what I just read?

I don’t like it. It sounds just like the phone model which is just an IV right into your wallet for two years. Customers really appreciate that for some reason and sign up for another 2 years based on the false presumption that the new shiny hardware offered in conjunction with the plan is much improved and well worth it. Iphone X anyone?

“Oh don’t worry about the price of the hardware, it is only a few bucks a month.”

BUT if I want to purchase Xbox One X, this might be the vehicle IF it includes all the swanky 4K optimized games I would want to play.

What am I missing?

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Jack Pipsam

Yeah I admit I don’t really see the point of this if people go with an Xbox One S, you could really find one of those for cheap (or an original Xbox One for cheaper). It kinda depends on if people will want to pay for LIVE and Game Pass. If yes, then sure it could be worth it at the same price, if not… then hmm.

For an Xbox One X? I could see it being worth it if it was going to be used a lot as the primary console/media player in the house. Then again $35 is a lot to look at every-month, so the one-time payment while painful up-front, it is over with (That’s why I get yearly LIVE cards). Granted this is all based on ones own personal finances.

It is worth noting that not everything in Game Pass is One-X optimised and they’re all optimised in different ways. It’s always worth checking the list.

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hurbster

I live in the UK so, no ?

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Schmidt.Capela

Nope, because:

1. I already have a PC reasonably more powerful than the best XBox Microsoft can offer, with the added benefit I can use whichever controller I prefer to play games on it.
2. Many of the “exclusives” are also available for PC through the Windows 10 store; if I wanted to play those games I could just purchase them for my PC.
3. I prefer owning the games I play. This might change in the future, but for the time being I’m not willing to subscribe for any gaming service unless I get to keep the games if I unsubscribe.
4. For the most part I’m not interested in any of Microsoft’s first-party games. I’m not keen on most FPS shooters, I prefer non-realistic racing games, the PvP prevents me from having any interest in Sea of Thieves, etc.

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Sally Bowls

For those in the PC Master Race, attacking consoles is “fighting the last war.”

https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/27/17671972/gamer-types-habits-demographic-research-eeda

When I did some arithmetic on the survey results:

34% mobile plus zero of PC & console
32% mobile plus one of PC & console
27% mobile plus both of PC & console

which leaves combined 7% that don’t play mobile and play pc only, console only, or both pc and console. The results are America; I assume mobile would be considerably larger overseas. Still it was 67% playing video games and averaging 12 h/wk.

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Jack Pipsam

I remember that before this generation started, many were declaring this would be the last console generation, that the consoles will be dead and that the PC would dominate.

Yet the PS4 is an outstanding success (by the end of the year it will have outsold the PS3’s lifetime numbers) beyond what I bet Sony anticipated, the Switch has been running hot since launch (to the point where the doom & gloom from the Wii U is all but vanished) and the Xbox is… doing alright. Not what they’d want, but far from failure with a $2.25 billion-dollar profit in a quarter.

Consoles didn’t die, they’re here to stay. I think it’s a great thing that the option remains for those who love PC gaming and those who love console gaming. If one goes, the other will end up suffering.

While I don’t personally like many mobile games, I’m thrilled that mobile gaming is a thing. It’s brought gaming to so many who might have never touched it before. Fortnite has proven that all can play with each-other if able.

Fighting is silly, we should be embracing gaming for all!

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Schmidt.Capela

It’s hard to tell about the Switch because players seem to be purchasing it as a portable console, thus mixing the console and portable markets.

It’s kinda how I use mine, BTW: a portable console I can hook up to a TV or a PC monitor. Had Nintendo followed the standards instead of intentionally adding incompatibilities to prevent standard USB-C to HDMI adapters (and many USB-C chargers) from working, I would by now likely have one “dock” for each screen in the house.

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Jack Pipsam

I’d still personally classify the Switch as a console, even if one was to use it exclusively in hand-held mode. I was highly sceptical of it before launch, but I was proven wrong and glad for it! I held off for a while because I already had a Wii U for Zelda and I was pissed-off at Nintendo for shutting down Miiverse, but I did give in a few weeks ago to get one.

I totally agree with you, I wish that you could plug it into things outside of the dock. It would be truly great if I could go around to a friend’s house and simply plug it into their TV without a dock. The price of the docks are disgusting as well, especially as there’s nothing to them.

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Schmidt.Capela

It doesn’t matter if it’s officially classified as a console or a portable; what matters is if people are purchasing it for portable usage, and thus getting it in place of (or as an upgrade to) the 3DS. If that is happening, then the Switch is tapping into the same user base that bought over 70M 3DS consoles, increasing its sales — though this means those players are less likely to purchase the 3DS sucessor should Nintendo make one, as they already have a console fulfilling that need.

Or, in short, the Switch is selling very well, but it might be doing so at the cost of hindering the 3DS sucessor if/when Nintendo makes one.

The price of the docks are disgusting as well, especially as there’s nothing to them.

The differences between the $90 dock (suggested retail price) and a bog-standard $30 HDMI adapter+charger+USB hub combo are just the Nintendo logo and that the official dock doesn’t correctly implement the various standards it uses, with errors that seem intentionally added just to create incompatibilities (and that, in some cases, can actually make certified standards-compliant USB-C chargers, that work correctly with just about every single other device that charges through an USB-C port, blow the power regulator inside the Switch).

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Sally Bowls

yes. And who knows, some of this marketing hype may come to pass; if it is a “PC game” that is run on a cloud server and the console is streaming it to the TV, is that really a console or PC game?

NCSoft has already said they think of games as PC & console, not just PC.

P.S. Sony has done extremely well. But I am a tad worried that Microsoft will make it easier to develop for Windows+XB. (But I guess that is just mid-size devs, EA & Activision can afford to support multiple platforms.) And Sony’s PS4 walled garden does not work as well with today’s melange of devices. But I had also read a lot of “last console” predictions. And who knows, a PS6 and XB3 may be quite different than just a bigger/faster PS1.

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Jack Pipsam

Xbox has always been akin to developing for Windows in many ways, that was very deliberate from the start. The benefit was evident last generation when making games for the 360 was vastly easier than the PS3 with its strange architecture. The end-result was many games ran better on the 360 than the PS3, despite the PS3 being more powerful on paper. It’s also part of the reason why it’s very hard for Sony to get PS3 games on the PS4, whilst Microsoft has been able to get Xbox 360 (and original) games running through an emulator on the Xbox One.

Sony made the wise choice with the PS4 to be like Xbox and make it close to a PC. So from what I understand from an outsider perspective, making games for both PS4 & Xbox is pretty easy until you get into spec differences. Hopefully going forward that’ll keep being the case.

Really Consoles are just stripped down PCs.

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McGuffn

That’s okay, my pc is more capable AND has a bigger screen than my phone.

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Robert Mann

Crazy. I still don’t get mobile gaming. It’s like “Here’s a tiny screen, poor controls, and terrible monetization… have fun!”

“But it’s PORTABLE and can fit in your pocket!”

“Yeah, no. I can carry a laptop with me if I’m going to invest enough time to matter. Otherwise, there’s a dozen things I can do that are less painful.”

Me vs. mobile people. We just look at each other as if the other person doesn’t get it.