Star Citizen’s Calling All Devs discusses coordinate-system difficulties, ship salvaging, and human trafficking

    
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This week’s installment of Star Citizen’s Calling All Devs video touches on the complications of providing positional data in the reaches of space, the ship salvage system, the Banu Merchantman ship, and everyone’s favorite pastime, human trafficking.

According to Cloud Imperium, creating a coordinate system to allow players to know (and accurately describe to others) their position in the universe is a particularly tricky bit of business because, well, space is really big, and it doesn’t exactly have a center to serve as a point of origin. Then there are the issues of multiple solar systems, planetary rotations, and so on, making it even trickier. Still, the devs intend to figure it out and get it into the game eventually.

The studio also talks a bit about the initial implementation of the game’s salvaging system, which will initially salvage ships in their entirety for scrap. It’s possible, however, that future iterations of the system will allow players to salvage specific parts or to siphon fuel out of salvaged ships. Also on the table for discussion is the upcoming Banu Merchantman ship, which will be a trade ship on which players can peddle their wares.

One kind of trading that players shouldn’t look forward to in the near future, however, is human trafficking, which the devs do not plan to implement in the immediate future, though the foundation for the human trafficking system may be introduced with the bounty hunting system.

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Ken from Chicago

I would strongly, strongly strongly suggest as controversial as STAR CITIZEN has been and still is that they do NOT implement “human trafficking” as part of the game. Yes, both STAR TREK has “slave Orion girls” and STAR WARS has “slave Twilek girls”, while Boba Fett’s ship is “Slave 1”, but those originated in the 1960s and 1970s. It is a far different time.

Aside from the obvious moral reasons, the last thing CIG needs are headlines that STAR CITIZEN making light of slavery years before the game launches. If they must add it then don’t do so before launch. After launch, RECONSIDER IT AGAIN. And if they still “must” add it, to fulfill some stretch goal, for the love of all that’s good and decent, do not under any circumstances make it race-based.

Have the goodly sense to make it punitive. If you are a “prison laborer” it’s to work off some property damage crime (eg, you stole a spaceship, now you are forced to work to pay back the owner or you injured someone, broke a leg or arm and you’re paying them back for lost wages and medical care expense). At least that’s somewhat more palatable.

Although again, this would just be easier to simply drop. CIG has altered the terms of the deal before, dropping this “gameplay element” would save a lot of time, energy, money and NEEDLESS heartache.

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Ardra Ventax

Human trafficking? Seriously? Hard to understand how people can say “War of Rights” is a political powder keg, but no outcry over something like this.

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primal

maybe war of rights political powder keg cus its about civil war.

with this its not like your going to be beating someone, or walking them through corridors in chains. ive been watching The Purge series. youve got carnival of flesh where people are kidnapped, sold to the carnival, shoved in cattle pens, then sold on stage to people that want to kill them. that sounds much worse than this.

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Ardra Ventax

OK. enjoy your hobbies, there.

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Peregrine Falcon

So if they don’t have a coordinate system in place then how will the server know where my ship is?

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Dividion

It’s kind of obvious they already have the actual numbers. The real question is how they present it to the players. In my opinion the center of each star system should be 0,0,0, just like when you zoom in on a system using the online star map.

Even so, you don’t want to go showing 10+ digit numbers for each x,y and z. (eg: That guy we want to rescue is located at: 1234567890, 1234567890, 1234567890)

And also remember they use a 64-bit engine. 2^64 = 18446744073709551616 Nobody wants to try communicating 60-digit (20×3) coordinates with other people. That’s why it’s imperative that they make the coordinates an interactive component of the in-game star map. They’re not something you should ever have to type manually, and showing the raw numbers isn’t going to be very helpful.

It surprised me they didn’t have a firm answer yet though.

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Hikari Kenzaki

Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.

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packagegrope

that must be why this game will never be completed.

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Psi

Oof, man. What an original joke!

You should be an SNL writer. :p

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Moolarurka .

I think it was more a prediction than a joke maybe ?

The prediction probably will come to pass though because this game is so far behind in its development schedule it is beyond a joke .

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Joe Blobers

Far behind based on?… 12 guys, 6 M$, no studios, no pipelines, not enhanced game engine, starting from scratch 6 years ago. Not only they did very well (currently +500 employees) but Star Citizen Roadmap give clear signal with most kickstarter features delivered by end of 2019.

I you can’t stand the wait of true Triple-A game development, there are plenty of finished and patched games around.

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Moolarurka .

I know this guy will probably find some way to explain this away but I will just link the original release schedule and let that do my talking for me .

And you might want to check 8 mins into the BBC documentary on the making of Star Citizen which covers the delays in development .

The thing is CIG continuously keep moving the goal post with each delay so the link to the Star Citizen Roadmap can be taken with a pinch of salt . When they fail to meet a deadline they will simply change it as they have done in the past .

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Joe Blobers

… yeah come back even further back in time with release planned in 2014… before community approved change for 2 Triple-A :)

Facts is CIG do have proper pipelines up and running and team to deliver. Quarterly patch since January was not an attempt to lure anyone but prove they are able to consistently shoot contents and gameplay.

Take the roadmap with a pinch of salt no problem… especially as you seems to believe roadmap equal deadline. It is not and never been, right form CIG site :Future work estimates are just that: estimates..

Despite all prophecies of Doom for Sure! … this is coming to fruition. Not in 2050 or never.. whatever your “genuine” contribution through your out of context sperm whale comment below…

Just for your education, semen is not coming from anywhere to some none compatible target just to match your scam ferry tail… and +700.000 members can provide enough to reach their SQ42 + SC babies goals :)

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butterpanda888

You’re sad, really.

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Moolarurka .

You know the saddest things I noticed JoeBlobbers has started doing the same thing on mmorpg.com as he does here

Does he have anytime to play games ? or is all of it spent defending Star Citizen on various sites on the internet .

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Joe Blobers

This comment is of zero interest Moola. You know nothing about how I use my time and SC take just take a fraction of it.

I leave comments whenever I feel the need to provide facts versus obfuscation, lies or gross lake of basic knowledge.

Rejoice, I do leave comments less and less, because naysayers/troll do fade out gently quarter after quarter :)

Keep doubting, this is fair as most players never new the real effort needed to follow a project and company grow from scratch.

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Moolarurka .

I guess you have never heard of the infinite improbability drive Joe ?

lol

or maybe you have and just don’t have any sense of humor .

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butterpanda888

This game is literally a scam, though. If it works out cool, but I doubt it will.

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Joe Blobers

The saddest part is to use world not even remotely appropriate to this project. Worst scam ever.
Keep doubting. Crowdfunded is not for everyone. Wait till it is cool enough for you to join, Beta or release.

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Moolarurka .

against all probability a sperm whale had suddenly been called into existence several miles above the surface of an alien planet.

And since this is not a naturally tenable position for a whale, this poor innocent creature had very little time to come to terms with its identity as a whale before it then had to come to terms with not being a whale any more.

;) I think that is quite apt for this game too lol

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ghostlight

Your great Douglas Adams quote prompted me to say that although the Hitchhiker’s Guide movie was kind of sort of ok, it pales in comparison to the BBC miniseries from way back in the 80’s.

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Hikari Kenzaki

Pish. The movie was shite. It’s okay to say it. All apologies to Martin Freeman and Bill Nighy.
Yes, the miniseries and the radio show are both great.

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Ken from Chicago

Classic! Well-played!