City of Heroes emulator SEGS estimates it could be ready in a year and a half

    
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We freely admit that SEGS may not have the most catchy title in the world, but it does have a goal which is near and dear to the hearts of many of our staff members; recreating City of Heroes in emulated form. The project was looking for coders back in April, and apparently it’s in a solid enough place now to give an actual completion estimate for the project of a year and a half from now.

Keep in mind that this is something put forth in a casual discussion on Twitter prompted by our own Justin, so do not set your calendar to remind you in 18 months. Still, it both gives an idea of how much effort it takes to build a fully functional emulator and gives hope to people still looking to hop into the game. Here’s hoping.

If you need to catch up on more of the SEGS story, we’ve got you covered just below.

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Nathaniel Downes

2005-2019, not the fastest dev time, but still gotta give credit.

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Ironwu

Far as I can tell, they are developing only the back end server structure. One would still need the original client software from some other source.

I suspect that the real problems will arise when SEGS attempts to update that client software and/or provide content that was originally developed for CoH/CoV. That would basically put them in violation of ToS/EULA contracts and IP theft.

We will see what NCSoft does, but these folks efforts would be better spent creating something original, I think.

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packagegrope

you shut your dirty mouth.

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Cyanpill

Work has already begun on a custom client. Which is to say, there’s a folder for it on github. But the plan is, after the i1 server is about 90% done, focus on the client side, so more features can be added to both.

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phaedrux

I think their efforts are well spent doing whatever it is they want to do.

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TahquitzTriumph

I guess this is as good of a time as any. Long time reader, first time commenter!

SEGS isn’t going to release City of Heroes. SEGS is an attempt to reverse engineer the City of Heroes server to make a new server that is focused on the original Issue 0 Gameplay. Being reverse engineered, it will behave like the original Issue 0 game.

However, since City of Heroes IP and content is part of the original server and client, SEGS is not including that in their finished product. Instead, the players program their SEGS server to add content to it (missions, dialog, NPC names and costumes, etc.) SEGS is using the Issue 0 client as a jumping off point, but when they have a 1.0 release, it will run with it’s own open source client (which will be the larger part of the effort. Consider all of the maps in City of Heroes remade.) to issue to players that will work with SEGS. The end result of SEGS won’t resemble City of Heroes at all. It’ll just play like it.

So in short, if NCSoft sues them, it’ll be similar to Oracle suing Google over being inspired by Java to create Dalvik… except that it’s unlikely SEGS will have as much of a runaway success as Android had over Java when it came to the mobile business.

And it won’t be as straightforward or a slam dunk as people make it out to be… if I understand their roadmap correctly, people installing SEGS do not get a turnkey MMO. It’ll be a vanilla installation of a otherwise blank MMO that’s up to the server owner to put together. And that’s a lot of work that will need to be done with the server before people can ‘play’ it in the first place.

THAT is why SEGS is interesting to me. This could be a “MMO Maker” toolkit that any dedicated community could turn into a game of their own.

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IronSalamander8 .

I’m all for this but will NCSoft go after them over this and force a shutdown?

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Dug From The Earth

I hate how obsolete laws exist for technology today.

Customers bought and paid for their copy of City of Heroes, and because NCsoft wanted to shut it down, they no longer can use it.

That would be like if everyone who bought a VW Bug, was suddenly unable to drive it anymore because VW is no longer making them

The laws/rules need to change for this sorta thing.

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TahquitzTriumph

Good to see someone else from Triumph on here! :D

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Bree Royce

I don’t remember where SEGS is operating from, but most determined emu groups at this point host overseas where they are relatively untouchable. See: Most of the major WoW emus running out of Russia etc. Ten years ago, it was more likely to be Malaysia heh. We’ve been covering this one since April and it doesn’t seem to be intimidated yet.

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Ironwu

Well, nobody seems to be intimidated until they are actually served the Cease and Desist order. It would also be good to remember that we are talking about NCSoft here, not some toothless US company. Don’t get your hopes up.