New World’s world looks beautiful – we spy buffalo in the latest footage

    
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It looks like a rather familiar world.

Tired of screenshots and leaks and one-second videos of New World? Amazon has a new video out today that might suit you. It’s footage of the alpha literally everyone got into but can’t talk about, and it’s basically running: It’s a character running through the Windsward region that we’ve seen so much of already. It’s “a region of New World composed mostly of grasslands and forests that are packed with harvestable resources,” AGS says.

The character jogs down the path past crates, wagons, cottages, campsites, farms, windmills, and creeks. The wilderness has a lot of abandoned crates by the side of the road. And lit torches. And railings. Hmm. And did ya catch the spot around 50 seconds in when the jump over a short fence goes a bit weird.

The whole thing’s below.

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blue touchpaper123

Full loot pvp killed my interest in it .

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Godnaz

As an Alpha player, it’s a stunning looking game but is harsh in it’s mechanics. There is lots of forced PvP and you lose everything in your inventory and what’s equipped takes damage if you die. It’s a conquest sandbox MMO so unless you are in a big guild or a solo roaming ganker, there isn’t much to do in the Alpha at the moment and you are a target. Building and crafting are very straight forward. Building a homestead is super easy to make and also super easy to have destroyed with little use or customization aside a spawn point, storage and minimal crafting. People will set up trap loot bags with fluff and gank unknowing passerbys. The hunting and gathering are pretty typical off a sandbox (Ark/Archeage/etc) as all elemements, trees, bushes, rocks, ore, water, animals can be hunted or gathered to building foundational tools to make bigger structures.

The spreadsheet PvP, meme/kek egotistic attitude in map chat is a put off but generally people are nice in voip chat as it’s local only. Anyways, if this is your gig, it’s a great start but I’m really looking forward to a more structured ruleset or mechanics in later releases.

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J

I thought this thing was under NDA and you weren’t suppose to be talking about it?

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Godnaz

I removed my avatar. No one will ever know. You gunna taddle on me?

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J

I’m good. I asked a question. You gave an answer in your defensive little way. I have no need to police their NDA for them. Granted, I think you should also be mature enough to honor contracts you agree to.

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Jack Kerras

I think you should also be mature enough to [obey coercive contracts foisted upon you by massive corporations simply because they have the power to exclude or prosecute you for any and every act of disobedience at their sole discretion].

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Crowe

You are correct.

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Rottenrotny

How do I get in on this Alpha that everyone’s in?!

I’m super curious and cautiously optimistic about this one.

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silverlock

Just go to the New World site on Amazon and click the follow button. That will put you on the list for an invite.

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gatheris

Well uhm, that was exciting – best part was the torch flame blowing out to the right in what was apparently a very high wind without a single leaf flickering on the trees – early days

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silverlock

PSA: If you have a family account with Amazon and signed up for this the invite would have gone to the primary accounts email not the email of the account you signed up with.

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Paragon Lost

Yeah I figured that would happen and it annoys me. It’s why I’ve not actually signed up. We have one Prime Account which my wife and I use for a lot of things. They need to come up with another system than this. :/

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imayb1

Prime allows you to link family members’ accounts. (In my case, my daughter and I are linked as husband’s family.) It lets everyone use the free shipping and share media, although several of the benefits stick with the primary Prime account.

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kaladek

From what I’ve heard/read, game is like Conan exiles

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silverlock

Nope it’s like LiF if was done by professionals.

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laelgon

LiF was such a swing-and-a-miss. There were some amazing ideas, but the execution was just terrible. It didn’t help that they kept caving to the most toxic elements of the hardcore pvp crowd. Which current game in alpha testing do you think has the exact same toxic players and guilds demanding the same game-killing hardcore (gankfest) pvp features?

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Arktouros

We’ve been requesting those features in every single MMO since UO. I remember laughing hysterically when Turbine had to tell us in LOTRO “There will be no murdering Hobbits in the Shire.”

Equally there’s just as many toxic carebears who always show up in any game that leans towards PvP trying to make the game more PvE oriented and harsher PvP penalties as well.

Usually games end up caving to either side and it ends up not being PvP enough for the PvPers and not PvE enough for the PvErs.

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laelgon

Is saying “we’d like to play without being ganked” really toxic though? There’s clearly just as many, if not more, players who’d like a more forgiving pvp sandbox MMO, otherwise we wouldn’t keep showing up in every game.

Amazon obviously has the resources, so they should just give people the option of playing on hardcore pvp servers or on consensual pvp servers. Seems the perfect solution. We can have our sandbox and you can have yours.

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laelgon

I agree that it often isn’t handled well, trying to appease the hardcore crowd and the more casual crowd. Most of the time, developers are scrambling to balance things after launch, before the population plummets. By all accounts the game seems to be in a true alpha state at this point, so assuming there’s not some incredibly close secret deadline, I think they could take the time to find an elegant solution.

I also feel like there isn’t a clear picture of exactly who their target audience is, which isn’t helping matters. If they came out and said “We’re making this game exclusively for the hardcore PvP crowd who expect to gank and be ganked often” then great, I know I can stop paying attention.

As someone who likes the building and large scale PvP aspects of sandbox games but hates the more toxic aspects that come with them, I keep hoping that some game finds that perfect chocolate and peanut butter balance between giving players freedom and preventing a handful of jerks from ruining things for everyone else.

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Arktouros

I also feel like there isn’t a clear picture of exactly who their target audience is, which isn’t helping matters.

This isn’t accurate.

If you read developer interviews they clearly state what their intended goals for the game are:

“We looked at a lot of survival games, and it’s like the zombie apocalypse, the disintegration of society, right? Small raiding parties roaming around,” says studio head Patrick Gilmore. “And we thought, this technology gives us the ability to look at how big a society can grow, and what happens when civilisation’s working. We’re looking forward to seeing how players organise themselves in that context.”

Most of their other interviews all mention survival games and bringing the kind of scale to a survival game that other survival games don’t have. Most survival games are very tiny amount of players (32-64 or so) by comparison. That really pushes and tests Amazon’s technology. So the kind of game they are interested in making to take advantage of the technology they’re using is pretty clear.

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Robert Mann

I guess they missed the fair number of MMO efforts there that have shown that such societies… don’t happen or last without some way to mitigate the outlaw factor (which IRL happened via death, but that’s not suitable to a game like this).

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Arktouros

Is saying “we’d like to play without being ganked” really toxic though?

Absolutely.

What matters is the context of the game. If you have a PvP enabled game getting ganked is part of said game. That isn’t toxic or abnormal behavior for a PvP game. It would be like joining an Overwatch match and being upset because all you really want to do is wander around the maps exploring the environment for details and sight see. However by toxic carebears I was mostly referring to the people who constantly and consistently refer to PvP players as sociopaths, psychopaths, and any number of other derogatory terms as a whole. Their blind rage towards anything PvP related is absurd and their attempt to influence games clearly not designed for them. The entire “This isn’t what I want therefore I’m going to complain until it changes!” mentality is about as toxic as it gets regardless who is doing it.

While Amazon has resources no one wants to flippantly throw resources around without a solid return. Supporting multiple environments would be a costly change as typically systems are designed in place. For example we know New World has territories and territory control which how does that work in a purely PvE environment? It’s easy to say, “Oh well just do this…” but it’s an entirely other matter to delay a project schedule to actually do it.

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kaladek

Nope.

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Paragon Lost

LiF? Blanking that acronym.

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Rolan Storm

“Life is Feudal” I guess.

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Paragon Lost

Oh, yeah bet that’s it. Thanks, I was totally mind blanking it.

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Sleepy

Pretty! Now hire the engine out for a LOTRO revamp please!

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silverlock

The engine is Lumberyard anyone can use it.

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Rolan Storm

Works good too.

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Robert Mann

Indeed. I made a zone up with minimal effort and a fair few really pathetic looking models that I slapped together (and it worked, regardless of how odd my models looked against the nicer landscape)! Fun to play with even for the complete amateur.

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Utakata

I don’t see Buffalo in that video…

“…I think the writer is referring to the bison ungulates at the end and not the city with namesake, Uta.”

…oh! O.o

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camren_rooke

Ungulates is a perfectly cromulent word.

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Brother Maynard

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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camren_rooke

So… say you make a Shepherds Pie and your name is Shepherd.

It would be Shepherds Shepherds pie.

but what if you were a shepherd by trade?

It would be shepherds Shepherds shepherds pie.

but what if you were a cannibal and you killed a guy name Shepherd to make your pie.

That would mean it would be a shepherds Shepherds shepherds shepherds pie.

OF course as things go, you shepherds usually hang around with one another so that guy you killed was also a shepherd.

And you would now have shepherds Shepherds shepherds Shepherds shepherds pie.

And because you shepherds are a murderous lot, you gifted your friend Shepherd who is by no coincidence a shepherd the pie you made in order to keep them from murdering you.

This pie would be known as shepherd Shephards shepherd Shepherds shepherd Shepherd’s shepherds pie.

At least I think that’s the way it goes but really I think I’ll just avoid any invitations to dine by shepherds or by anyone named Shepherd.

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Gel

What about us people who just want a good, old-fashioned Theme Park MMO to play? I know we have GW2 and ESO from the West, but another one would be nice.

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J

There is no shortage of Theme Park style MMORPGs. Its the most prevalent type in the market. I’m not saying that New World shouldn’t incorporate some quests features and PVE. I am just saying that this segment is already catered to by the industry. To the point of bending over backwards.

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Dug From The Earth

No shortage?

In comparison to what? Other genres of games? Or non-theme park mmorpgs?

Regardless, newer, modern mmorpgs are scarce. Even IF theme park ones outnumber non-theme park, they are STILL scarce… Thats hardly “no shortage”

And as far as im concerned, all the 500 asian mmorpg clones dont count. If you played Lineage 2 at any point, you have played 75% of the asian mmorpgs out. If you played games like Ragnarok Online, you have played another 20% of them.

When most people come here stating they want a good theme park style mmorpg, they mean something that feels like how EQ, Daoc, LoTR, and even WoW felt back in the day. The “current” ones arent really current, they have been around for many years now and the genre… hell the industry is due to have some new options to choose from.

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Leiloni

I like themeparks, too but we have a ton of great choices with enough variety for every type of player.

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Arktouros

Almost every major MMO released in the last 10 years has been a by-the-numbers, old-fashioned Theme Park MMO. ESO, GW2, WOW, FFMDCMDLVLMDIV, SWTOR, TSW, WAR, AOC, LOTRO, etc.

Many of those titles didn’t do so well after release because the kinds of players who are interested in those titles didn’t stick with them. The reason they quit I attribute to one of my all time favorite quotes “players develop this thing called taste [and] expect a quality product, not just any product” meaning no one wanted to wait for these games to come into their own like WOW did as they were just accustomed to WOW’s level of years of polish.

But there’s a cost to that and financial investment of developing a WOW clone doesn’t net you WOW money then that’s a tough sell when you can go develop something else and get a better return for your time. So a game like New World makes sense especially given that the box sales alone will probably recoup their development costs but the real money here is about selling Lumberyard to other developers.

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No, that’s not the reason I didn’t “stick with” some of those games. GW2 I loved, but they changed the gear progression after the game went live, and introduced fractal dungeons for higher stat items and the mystic toilet for RNG. Oh, and those higher stat items could be used in Battleground. I loved the story and most of the zones. My Guardian was best. toon. ever. Perfectly programmed.

You didn’t mention Rift. I really liked Rift. It was a bit of a grind for some things, like PvP gear, but I was happy to be able to have PvP gear for battlegrounds. Then, the raids opened, an raid items were allowed to be used in battlegrounds. See a theme here?

I’d still be playing TSW if they had not changed over to SWL. I never got Tokyo done. But it kills me to start over. I have tried, but not gotten very far.

I didn’t like ESO from the start. FF was too slow in the story telling for me. So I have learned to take what BDO has to offer and be happy with it. And I will play Classic WoW.

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Arktouros

One could make the argument that those games were not polished or finished yet. For example your GW2 issue with Ascended gear. After Ascended gear was introduced, it became the cap for gear and has remained so since it’s introduction. It doesn’t scale infinitely and only has around 5-10% more stats than Exotic. While yes it can be used in WvW (not in SPvP as SPvP has an entirely different gearing system and always has) the stat difference is minor enough to be irrelevant. You won’t lose, for example, because a person was using Ascended and you were using Exotics.

So had you waited around a bit and gave them time to work out the systems and polish the game around all of them there wouldn’t have been an issue. That isn’t to incriminate you for your decision, and I have made plenty of similar decisions. We, as customers, have no duty or responsibility to prop up a company while they figure things out. However equally these game designers are running a business and need to make the best decisions for themselves as well.

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Oleg Chebeneev

Wait for western release of Lost Ark.

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Robert Mann

You’ll be waiting a while, and mostly getting the ‘oldschool’ stuff for the next few years. Where there’s lots of MMOs out that have that playstyle, new ones are rare indeed right now. Well, maybe the new LotR MMO thing?

I’m hopeful that somebody will look at the continued outpouring of interest in a PvE focused sandbox (maybe with some theme-park elements, or some areas focused on themepark style content) and do a solid job on one.

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BalsBigBrother

You would think they would have done something about the pop in before they put out a video like this. It noticeable in the video but much more so when you play the game.

Oh well lets just say alpha and hand wave it away for now because they will of course sort that out before launch I am sure.

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Arktouros

Are you sure of that? As I’ve been saying for a long time when people criticize similar system in BDO this is how graphics engines work. This is how they’re able to let you run a game like this with pretty great graphics and lighting without setting your computer on fire or giving you crippling FPS.

Why is that important? Because, based on the leaked video from before, the interface design practical screams console/controller support. Consoles have notoriously difficult setups (CPU/GPU combos) to optimize for.

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I have gotten used to the pop in with BDO. My current PC graphics are pretty old, so I haven’t had a choice. My new PC comes today! So maybe better graphics capability will help with that; maybe not. I’m more concerned about finding ANY setting that gives me a better FPS.

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Robert Mann

That was a noted issue way back to Gothic 3… and developers still don’t seem to care that a fair few people find it disruptive. (Well, back then it literally lagged a little as more world loaded, but same idea.)