Fallout 76’s PC beta window got off to a rough start

    
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If you were aiming to tool around in last night’s Fallout 76 PC beta episode, you probably found yourself a bit disappointed. Some folks logging in were effectively forced to redownload the entire game – all 50 gigs of it.

Eh, no big deal right? I’ll just log in later. Oh, the beta is restricted to tight, arbitrary windows? Oh.

That’s OK, I’ll just go camp on the forums and complain… oh, the forums went boom too? Oh.

At least this sorts the MMO players from the rest; we’re used to stuff like this. The last Bethsoft MMO I played literally deleted my whole hard drive, so it could be worse.

The good news – and there is some – is that Bethsoft is compensating for the loss of beta play time, which to be fair, isn’t just whining, since the game will not be wiped during this phase. It looks as if you’ll get some extra playtime on Thursday.

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Sorenthaz

Great, so it’s extended for a period where I’ll still be at work. :p

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Bannex

I just wanted a coop experience for fallout and skyrim. I have no interest in this

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Sorenthaz

That’s what Fo76 gives though? It’s pretty much a multiplayer Fallout.

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Pepperzine

Without human npcs and a branching interactive story it doesn’t seem like it to me. In my opinion, it seems more like a survival-esk game with a fallout skin layered on it rather than a coop for Fallout 4 experience.

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NecroFox4

Have you played it? Because it’s literally like a co-op Fallouot 4 experience.

The lack of living human NPCs has hardly been detrimental. And while the story is indeed linear, it is meant solely as an introduction to the wasteland around you and it’s controversy, as well as the systems present in the game. But it is worth noting that there are NPCs and quests all over the game world, and Bethesda will likely add plenty more going forward.

I’m not a huge fan of the story, but that alone does not take enough away from this game to make it unenjoyable. In fact, I find it to be quite a lot of fun.

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xpsync

I know my full review was mega long, it’s literally wall of text i know, i’ll copy and past it here, make sure you have the time to read all of it before you start so you know everything you need to know about the game,

ok here it is.

It’s Fallout 4, and it’s online.

I know it’s huge read but it’s 100% accurate, it’s far too much information to put into a single word.

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packagegrope

break this game simply by playing at a low resolution and forcing vsync off via your gpu control panel.

zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

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NecroFox4

Yea, I found that pretty comical. But Bethesda is fixing that at launch, so enjoy it while you can. ;)

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xpsync

Of Wonder? I’ve encountered this “phenomenon” before.

Can’t remember specific games atm so “their” means several different games, but on their forums, it is so nasty, so vial, such a wretched hive of scum and villainy you think you’d just walked into Mos Eisley.

You wonder, whoa what’s it like in the game this is only the forum, yet in game it’s a 180, people are super helpful, super nice, polite, helpful, so pleasant you think i must have been on the wrong forum, nope you go back and yep, it was the right one.

F76, the internet hate for this game was unmeasurable, yet last night peeps, all i heard, were polite, helpful, people just having fun, a great time! Completely devoid of hate? lol

So, is this “phenomenon” a Jekyll and Hyde situation or two completely different crowd sets? It’s just I’ve seen this more than once, in game could not be further than what you are finding out on the net. How can this be such a polar opposite situation?

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Cypher

Just take a look at children; When they get what they want, they are happy as Larry… deny them, and their temper tantrums reach embarrassing levels, and can quickly turn into vitriolic, hate-fuelled rage…

I believe you have your answer

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xpsync

ok, you know, that actually fits.

Just try it, never know you just might like it. – game
NO!!!! It’s not the same – internet
It’s new and improved – game
NO!!!! It’s not even the same color candy – internet
Yes they also changed the color – game
WAAAAAAAAA – internet

pops in new candy…

This is awseome!!!

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NecroFox4

The loudest voice gets the most attention.

It is typically only the most polarized of opinions that wind up getting posted on the forums when issues occur. Those who are so incensed by simple things, that they simply MUST share their discontent with the world, often flock to the forums to spew venom and hate. But this is typically a very vocal minority.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of players (aka normal people) simply chuckle at the unfortunate issues popping up in a BETA TEST, and go on about our day, finding something else to occupy our time while waiting for another opportunity to play.

Take my wife, for example; on Tuesday, the day we had been waiting for for months, we would finally be able to play the PC beta of FO76 together. But as it would turn out, her graphics card decided that Tuesday, 30 October 2018, would be the day it committed suicide.

My wife, being immensely disappointed, promptly went into the living room and watched TV and played with the cats. She did this, rather than ranting and raving on EVGA’s message boards, because she isn’t a member of that very vocal minority, who deem it necessary to throw a digital temper tantrum every time something doesn’t go their way.

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Mewmew

From last week:

“Fallout 76 hits beta as Bethesda tempers expectations with caution for ‘spectacular issues’”

So basically it went exactly as Bethesda predicted and warned.

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Sorenthaz

Yeah they’ve specifically stated that the beta period is meant to be a stress test and an attempt to break the game/find flaws with their systems and so on. That’s why they’re doing specific time windows I guess.

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Rees Racer

Would rather be playing…

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A Dad Supreme

I do miss that game.

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Cypher

Loved this game with a passion! discovered it outta the blue, as you did in those days. Boy, what a summer! :D

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xpsync

outta the blue, love those games.

Half Life 2, no idea whether it’s going to be good or bad, think i was deciding between a couple at the time and went with my gut.

Morrowind had a game store gift card, meh wth i’ll try this Morrowind thing, went with my gut, probably sucks…

miss those days

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Sorenthaz

That just makes me think of Vigilante 8.

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Greaterdivinity

This is the most Bethesda thing ever. I can’t help but feel like this is some meta joke being played by a handful of engineers who knew they wouldn’t have to work on the kickoff.

On the one hand I feel bad for everyone that ended up being frustrated as hell by all this…but at the same time I couldn’t stop giggling at how peak Bethesda this is.

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xpsync

Since the count down timer was only off by 2 hours, i tried to go to the forums and find out why it had not launched, lol, they are down too, hit the internet, omg Bethesda putting their stamp all over the new game already.

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Sorenthaz

Well, B.E.T.A. does stand for “Break-it Early Test Application”. So… it was kind of the point to break things, as they’ve stated their beta testing is purely to stress test their systems and have folks break it to prep for launch.

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NeoWolf

I can say having a BEta window that was incorrectly notified so the time was off by 2 hours was not a great start and then to find their was a bug that DELETED the already predownloaded and installed client made it even worse.
And worse still was they didn’t let us start RE_Downloading the client again until the beta started correctly the two hours later so we lost half of the entire beta window having to re-download the slow as fu** giant client and reinstall it again. It was messy.. but then that is what BETAs are for afterall lol

That aside I did get some play in and it wasn’t horrible, I joined the responders got a nice outfit (which appeared over my armor, which I didn’t like that was a kop out on Bethesdas part, do we need modders to sort that sh** out for them again like we did with FO4??), did some questing (for the responders mostly trying to find what happened to existing members and finishing thier tasks, which in turn gives you rewards and teaches you crafting recipes etc..), did a public event (which seemed pretty soloable, but that anyopne can join in at any timeand gives some nice rewards). Did some exploring and a little bit of crafting (mostly weapons, armor and ammo including upgrading). Durability is in a la FO3 so you have to scavenge constantly so you can keep your stuff fixed.

I fought a bunch of creatures from feral ghouls of various sorts including lots of different giant insects and animals, lots of robots and a few turrets. I didn’t get a chance to wander too far in order to see anything huge and I didn’t see anything above level 5 monsterwise but thing seemed relatively simple to kill, the most dangerous encounter was the turrets which eat your health quickly. I did fight one elite Protectron but other than slightly better loot it was nothing to write home about.
Combat also seemed simpler than the usual Fallout games in some respects, for example you can see enemy health bars, and the A.I is mostly pretty dumb..enemies moving to you and attacking until they reach a certain health at which point they try to run away. I didn’t see anyone finding cover or moving around etc.. even the ghouls just charge you, except the Scorched who can and do have ranged weapons, they stay at range and shoot. Also I found MELEE weapons WAAAAAAAAAAY more Damaging and effective than RANGED. My Pitchfork for example did twice the damage of my pip pistol and used no ammo.. there did not seem to be a great deal of incentive to going ranged, beyond the odd enemy like wall turrets you cannot reach with melee weapons. That is something that clearly needs to be balanced some.

Your start with some stimpacks but mostly it will be food etc..initially that you will be using to keep yourself healed and that also means having to manage your Rads. Food and Drink is a thing in game but not so much as they seemed overly problematic a la some hardcore survival games. Your thirst limits your action points so you have to keep your eye on that especially if you want to sprint or use V.A.T.S. Encumberence is also still in so make sure you keep track of where either your camps stash or the other stashes around the maps you can access (all linked) to keep your weight down as being over encumbered uses Action Points meaning you can move normal speed until your AP runs out then you have to wait until it refills and be moving at a crawl until it does.

I didn’t get a chance to do any base building although I do store a heap of scrap because apparently beta progress is being preserved into live (barring any unforseen need to wipe beforehand).

There are lots of notes and holotapes all over that tell various stories (some pretty tragic) but beyond the initial responder outpost that gave quests I only found two quests in the world around the starting area that wasn’t a public event and that was to visit a Giant Teacup and another was to repair a transmitter to get a government supply drop (like a loot box found in places around the word with flare smoke coming off them…think chests). I did find it a little lonely feeling without ANY npcs whatsoever, that felt wierd indeed…which is not to say you don’t see any NPC’s… they are just all dead lol

PVP was my biggest concern, they say it is unlikely you will see many people as the area is so big, but that really isn’t the case at least intially. Because unless folks decide to wander off on their own (some did) most are following the overseer questline etc.. too, so find the responders and join them too, and do the same responders quests too etc.. which keeps them all in the sma eplaces you are. So initially it seemed really busy. However you cannot PVP ANYONE until level 5 (despites the best efforts of some I might add), and once you are you can attack and be attacked. I was not once attacked when I hit level 5 but to be fair it happened moments before they shut the server down the fact some had tried to kill me pre-level 5 means they almost certainly would have once I WAS level 5.

Levelling up is a little different you have the S.P.E.C.I.A.L stats (Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility and Luck), each of these has a PErk slot, perks are cards. Each time you level you get a perk, you can pick which stat you apply it too and typically get a choice of two perks from that stat. Once you pick one you can equip it to that stat. Alternatively you can use your perk to rank up an existing perk making its bonus provided better. At level 5 I also recieved a Perk Pack which gave me I think FIVE random perk cards. So you have a fair bit of control over the kind of character you want to play.

Performance wise it seemed pretty stable I had no crashes and running everything on ULTRA I had almost no performance issues. The last few minutes before they brought the server down however it did start to have some stuttering and frame drops. But beyond that it was smooth.

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xpsync

Good read, Thanks!

Same, i ran out of bullets and found i had a machete, equipped that and wtf, is this the Machete of a thousand truths.

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rafael12104

A good analysis of where F’76 is at the moment. I will only add that I ran to a couple of quests that I could not finish because of bugs. I expect that to be fixed at launch, but… Bethesda is notorious for their bugs. And I’m not convinced that the major bugs will be totally squashed at launch.

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Another thing I should have mentioned relating to PVP and the game in general is that you can at all times open the map and see where other people are. All other players marked either by a creamy white dot or a red dot if they are outlaws.

Yes Bethesda have put some anti griefing setup in in the form of bounties etc.. but this still seems fairly abusable to me. For example once they get a bounty they are still able to see where all other players are on the map and although the dot does not to my knowledge give an indication of the players level it does show you if they are alone or in a group.
This makes its super easy for outlaws to track down those solo players out far from others to prey on. Yes the target could if they are checking the map regularly see if someone is coming thier way but while exploring or questing or crafting that could be easily missed allowing you to be griefed.

The whole thing kind of falls apart though because if people are paying attention to the map they can avoid outlaws entirely and outlaws can evade capture entirely..simply by logging off when folks get near. There are no specific servers afterall, you could log off and back on and be with an entirely different group of 23 other people, not necessarily back on the same server with the same people you were with… meaning a quick re-log could prevent any pvp happening to you or pvp’er being caught…because as Pete Hines confirmed when you log off your character disappears. But then this creates a crazy situation of eople constantly logging on and off again. Your only likely to end up back in the same place again if you were playing with friends or RNG hates you.

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rafael12104

Heh. Let me take off my Fallout blinders, first. Because this game just makes me grin to ear. Lol.

In all fairness? It shouldn’t have happened. This type of thing is why having limited time windows, day to day specifically are a bad idea. That, and the fact that the window doesn’t always fit real life schedules.

BUT as far as first logins go? It was hardly a game changer. Are you kidding me? In comparison to other games I have Beta’d, the issue barely registers.

Ok. Now, with my Fallout blinders back in place. Yup. The game is what I expected and a whole shitload of fun. Looking forward to more.

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laelgon

Besides this issue, I’ve been reading that it doesn’t run particularly well, even on high-end hardware.

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seemed smooth enough to me on 7700k 1080gtx installed to nvme m2 drive.

the performance wasn’t my issue but rather the lack of 21:9 support which left me gufawed a bit even given my expectations for oddities being what they were going into it.

mind you for some reason nvidia auto capped my frame rates in all games to ~60fps so if people were looking to max out their 144hz oc’ed monitors and not getting that it might ring true.

anyways it’s gamebryo. it’s never performed all that great really.