Fallout 76 goes on steep sale while fans uncover a Skyrim connection

    
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Huh.

Ready for a bit of “huh, that’s weird” for a Monday morning? We sure hope so because it turns out that Fallout 76 is being sold for $35 on Amazon. That’s a 42% discount and also, well, very unusual for a game that was released not so long ago at all. It’d be one thing if the game were several months old, but… no, it’s just weird. This is just a weird, weird fact.

Here’s another weird one for you, though. It looks like a large chunk of the code in Fallout 76 is cut and pasted from the Xbox 360 version of Skyrim. That includes Kinect compatibility commands. So does that make this a very elaborate Skyrim mod? Is it really that unusual to cut and paste sections of code like this? Is it really even that big of a deal? We’re not going to tell you any of that. We are going to tell you that this is weird, because… well, this is the sort of thing to make you say “huh, that’s weird.” Just as promised.

Source: Twitter, Amazon; thanks to Schmidt and Gregg for the tips!

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Mr Poolaty

This is beyond a total shit show… Bethesda has their special response media teams out spreading thier true love for the game… Paid First Responders… Lol

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Mr Poolaty

I’m glad I only spent my refundable $5.00 to play the beta.

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Rabidwargamer

Clicking on the $35 link, it shows $59.99 for new while used is $35. Kinda think used games should be deeply discounted. Dunno if things changed since this article posted

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Yes, the sale was over Black Friday.

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BalsBigBrother

I just looked through this again while I drank my morning coffee and I think I am done with commenting on Fallout 76. A lot of the people here are not interested in a conversation they just want to pour scorn on folks who despite a games many acknowledged flaws are still having a fun experience.

I am not a fan boy I am still the same level headed gamer I have mostly always been I look at the experience I am having and judge it solely on that. If you are someone who has a different view I am not going to mock you for that you are quite entitled to it but so am I.

Painting someone as a blind sheeple or fan boy / girl because they like something you don’t is not polite and not in anyway conducive to a good faith discussion about a game, which is after all the purpose of this comment section.

So I am done you win, me I will be over here enjoying my time in Fallout 76, which is not perfect by any means is still fun.

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You win bbb! You took the high road and are the bigger man.

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Nathan Aldana

I mean by the same token, painting people with concerns about the game as “haters who just want to ruin the game for fans” is equally disingenuous, and theres a lot of that too.

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Bannex

I remember when bethesda games were an automatic buy for me…

They can go sit in the corner with blizzard and bioware now.

I’m running out of companies that deserve my money. Im glad I sniffed out this turd before I became another hyped nerd statistic.

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oy vey. Buggy software is not a class-action lawsuit.

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This is how a typical game day went today for me: logged in, checked all the vendors on server, they were unsurprisingly out of caps (people are farming bugged traps for XP and materials which then they can sell to vendors, they also sell junk looted from ghoul spawns at Whitespring Resort where people also farm those ghouls for XP and loot). Jumped a couple of servers, same exact thing. My friends logged in, we decided to drop a nuke on Fissure Site Prime. We managed to launch a nuke (wasted a couple of keycards because launch codes have expired right before we used the card, luckily someone on Reddit posted another set of launch codes which are only good for a week), got to the site. The Scorchbeast Queen spawned, we couldn’t kill her in time (not enough people to do required damage and it is impossible to ask anyone on server for help because there is NO GLOBAL TEXT CHAT), but killed some other stuff, during which all of us got kicked a few times out of game. Right after event was over, the server displayed message “server shutdown is imminent” and kicked everyone after 10 seconds… Very fun game experience from a $60 game. /sarcasm

Luckily the sheeple on the /r/fo76/ subreddit (this is where most irrational fanbots gather up) has also started to sober up, and right now the most upvoted post here is user created list of bugs.

Meanwhile, on official Fallout twitter, the last tweet is:

Bethesda… Bethesda never changes ;-)

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Sorenthaz

I mean you clearly don’t seem to be paying much attention to /r/fo76 if you’re just going to dismiss everyone as “sheeple” and “irrational fanbots”.

Otherwise you would’ve noticed: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/a0i8s4/bethesda_needs_to_talk_to_us_today/eaj62pz/

Which seems to have been brigaded heavily by /r/fallout kids or who knows where, considering it went from 200ish positive votes to -300+ in the span of a few hours. Haters staying classy as always.

Maybe stop sipping the Haterade for 5 seconds and take some time to do a little research before you decide to insult the people actually having fun with the game.

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Can we start a “Gaming Community Full-meltdown” Bingo game? We could stamp Diablo, WoW, and FO just for starters! It’ll be great.

Winner gets a vat of tears and a chicken-little action figure with real hyperbole action!

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rafael12104

So… time to work out the 76 punching bag again? Heh. It will keep the industry fit I suppose, but for some of it is just for show now. A shitshow all around.

Yup, reusing code is not an issue. Most here see that, but I wonder how many more Youtubers and gaming sites will call it out as another nail in the coffin?

As for the price drop? They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Because they did it, for some, it smacks of desperation and failure. If they hadn’t Bethesda would just be out of touch, greedy, bastards. Heh.

Look, Bethesda deserves some of it, no question. But why all the emotion? Skill Up, one of my fave reviewers gave it a zero out of 10 claiming that Todd Howard is a liar and Bethesda is a scam dev house and morally corrupt. WTF?

Slow your roll, boys. No need to get hysterical. You don’t have to buy it or play it. It isn’t a requirement.

As for me. Yeah, I bought in. And I’m having fun. I guess I’m part of that “good for you” crowd.

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I mean through all this;

What word do we all see repeated time and time again?

fun

I think that about sums up my review! lol

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Bullet Teeth

The word I see repeated time & time again is “Bullshit”.

That sums up more than just my review of the game…

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lol Touché

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McGuffn

But… Todd Howard is a liar. You don’t need the “wtf” like it’s completely unbelievable. I had blissfully forgotten about the radiant AI in Morrowind until someone here posted a Todd Howard video set to the delightful Fleetwood Mac.

I think this is the video. YouTube is kind of flooded with videos of Todd Howard lying (and they predate FO76).

This is a good one too:

Edit: you can go to the music video for Fleetwood Mac’s Little Lies and people are even talking about Todd Howard there lol.

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A Dad Supreme

“So… time to work out the 76 punching bag again?”

To be fair, Fallout 76 is the comedy gift that keeps on giving just like Star Wars Battlefield 2 was before it. This Xbox code stuff is just… funny. The price drop is even funnier.

It is the holiday season so, it’s good to laugh at and ridicule something that needs to be laughed at and ridiculed.

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Bullet Teeth

Yeah, well 76 and Bethesda are reaping what they sow. So let’s not get on with this whole “kicking it while it’s down” horseshit.

You spent 60$ on a 15$ game, now you feel as if you have to justify your purchase. Hence why you’re “having fun”.

Because if “Fun” to you is running around a terribly rendered world that’s operating on an engine that predates my puberty, hopelessly glitched enemies, horribly bugged mechanics, a UI that I can make with constriction paper, and literally zero QA & almost no content, then I can only imagine how tight your pants would get if you ever played Dying Light (which was made in 2015 for comparison) or something.

I also find it amusing how you touched on SkillUp’s video. Like HE’S out of touch for calling a spade a spade…yet I’ll bet you my top & bottom dollar that there’s not a goddamn thing he said that wasn’t true about the actual game. Which for the record I experienced 90% of his issues in the first 45 MINUTES of playing. Only exception is the world going purple when you die.

So you ask “why all the emotion?” It’s a matter of principle. To see not just a franchise but a BRAND I grew up with being commercially sacrificed on the altar of greed, then passed onto us by these lazy, lying, conniving developers like it’s some kind of genre-defining masterpiece is just fucking insulting and revolting. Then seeing people talking about it like “It’s no big deal guys! I’m good with it! I’m having fun!” is a testament to how far the gaming standard and the gaming industry as a whole has fallen over the last 10 years.

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Koshelkin

Considering the excellent reviews the game is getting I wouldn’t call the big discount weird or surprising. Let’s hope TESVI and Starfield are going to be better. Fallout 76 is pretty much a cash-in on the survival genre as they already had most of the game in place in Fallout 4. They just built a network backend in, voila, Fallout Survival derp.

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Armsbend

My bet is the next TES will be 100% focused on charging money for mods.

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Koshelkin

Don’t be such a Debbie Downer.

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McGuffn

A bit off topic but that’s Blizzard’s plan with Diablo, only with dlc/microtransactions/lootboxes/something even crazier. You can see the misery already. You pack the mobile game with all that stuff (because of course they will, it’s a mobile game) and then you’ve primed the pump for D4.

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A Dad Supreme

“Let’s hope TESVI and Starfield are going to be better.”

Since Bethesda has confirmed they are using the exact same buggy, decrepit, aged engine as Fallout ’76… I’m sure they will be better.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

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Schmidt.Capela

The engine itself isn’t the issue. Or, at least, not the biggest issue. Most of the bugs in Bethesda games are in the data files, which is why the unofficial patches can fix so many things.

The big issue is how Bethesda rarely bothers fixing the bugs they are made aware of, and often even offered a proof-of-concept fix; I mean, there are Skyrim bugs that were widely known and reported over half a decade ago, some of them game-breaking if the bug is triggered, and Bethesda never bothered fixing them despite releasing a remastered version of the game and doing regular updates to push further paid mods.

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Sorenthaz

It’s not a cash-in on the survival genre though. The game has basically no survival elements except for basic food/hunger (dehydrating/starving will reduce your Action Points by like 25% each and maybe you die if your hunger or thirst bar hits 0? idk) and then a portable base system with the closest comparison being Trove’s cornerstone system.

If anything it’s a cash-in on online multiplayer as they’re trying to expand one of their IPs to a broader audience and are using the ‘games as a service’ model.

On the flip-side though, this is their first attempt at using their game engine to expand into multiplayer venues, potentially allowing them to do things like an optional co-op/online mode for Elder Scrolls 6 and future games. It’s their first real test on their code infrastructure/etc. because they can’t just let the modding community fix their issues for them, hence why they have an Austin studio solely working on the game.

It represents their attempt at trying to expand out of developing exclusively singleplayer RPGs and developing a different game type while using a development model that they have little/no experience in. At best they can maybe get some pointers/advice from ZOS on how to manage it, but ESO uses the Hero engine and not the Creation Engine that Bethesda uses for their games (likely part of why ESO felt like it was an MMO trying to emulate Skyrim elements rather than Skyrim trying to emulate MMO elements; Fallout 76 is very much Fallout 4 trying to emulate online multiplayer sandbox RPG elements).

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McGuffn

And that’s the other reason why this game appealed to me. After losing my base and stuff in other survival games several times, the “when you die you don’t lose your gear, just your junk” sounded great, along with your base despawning when you log out. Unfortunately it seems like theres also some bug where your camp doesn’t spawn back, and sometimes they can’t put the saved blueprint down either.

And even though this is bethesda and they want to hit the holiday seaon window, a lot of what we’re seeing made (more) sense once I saw the holiday console bundle. If they have to ship to get in the console bundle they have to ship no matter what. The same thing happened with AC: Unity’s own scandal plagued launch a few years back.