Atlas promises players that things will be better in the new year

    
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Sure, great, thanks.

It’s been kind of a mess thus far, but Atlas is sailing into the new year after kicking off early access in 2018. The team behind the game has thanked players for taking the journey with them so far (you know, for all of the short span of time anyone has known the game existed after its surprise announcement) while promising that 2019 will produce more fixes and improvements to make the game everything that it can be.

Among the steps in this direction is a minor patch that will now allow anyone to demolish shipwrecks to reclaim resources, along with NPC trading ships returning to the waters. There are plans to focus heavily on server stability and connection issues while also patching up bugs and balance problems, so look forward to continued course corrections for the next few weeks. There’s also a new set of maps tracking territory control on the game’s servers, if that’s of interest to you.

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A Dad Supreme

“Atlas promises…”

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laelgon

My 2 biggest concerns are the lag and mega zergs. The absolutely insane rubberbanding makes the game unplayable at times. The mega-zergs are just slowly rolling over the map. There’s no way for a group of lesser size to defend their territory when the 300+ person groups can simply wipe you out during off-hours. A lot of players seem resigned to the fact that in a couple weeks they’re going to be wiped, and will stop playing.

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Darthbawl

Atlas promises players that things will be better in the new year

Well, it sure as heck can’t get much worse! 😂

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Arktouros

Gotta say still don’t understand the irrational level of hatred on this title.

This is Wildcard (regardless what they want to call themselves). They made ARK. We’ve seen ARK. We know what this development process is going to be like. We know they will finish it. Yes this other survival game they made is a modified ARK client. No they didn’t charge full price for the game (and if ARK was any indication it’ll probably go on sale for less).

Early Access is great if done right. This is doing it right. They announced the game, and within a month it was playable (if not a little unreliable). They didn’t sell the game full price, they didn’t announce the game 2-3 years ago and build up hype constantly only to hand us another 2 years of early access. If you don’t want to jump in right away you can just sit back. chill, and see what they do with it and maybe buy in somewhere down the line. If you don’t like where it is, oh well, there’s literally thousands of other games you could spend your time on instead.

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Dug From The Earth

Its a scam.

They are selling A, but giving you B.

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Arktouros

It’s objectively, factually not a scam.

What, exactly, have they not delivered that they said they would deliver by this stage?

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socontrariwise

Oh simple. They claim the game can handle 40k concurrent people but calculations with the 150 per chunk show it would be only 33.7k (15×15 chunks, 150 max per chunk). 15% less than claimed. Try that with a product you sell and you are officially fraudulent for content.

And then Nitrado did a thorough analysis and says the Atlas system is not able to handle even 130 players/ chunk, that is where it already goes over the Jordan aka gameplay is crap. If they are on land and close to each other it actually rubberbands to unplayable already with way less than 50 people around. So if they had sold it claiming that this is a goal for the future – alright, maybe. The Nitrado cluster of 5×5 has limited the player number accordingly to mere 700 people. Because of the SOFTWARE issue, not a hosting issue.
So yes, their system can’t handle it at all currently, it is fraud.

And they know that but they don’t open more servers. And since the system does not deny more player to enter than it can handle per chunk companies sail in with two galleons of 50 people each, then people at islands in the chunk already start rubberbanding badly enough and log out or won’t get back in anymore when they crash. So they can just raid the empty bases.

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Tanek

If players can currently play the game that was shown in the trailer (even if it is not easy to do so), then I would not call it a scam…yet. Give it more time, though, and who knows what will happen.

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Tanek

Probably because of exactly that. They are Wildcard and we have seen what they did with ARK. :)

I am not saying ARK can’t be fun or that people who are having fun with ATLAS are wrong. And I think anyone who went through the ARK development process, then still bought ATLAS and complained about delays or performance had to have been living in some other reality.

But. With at least 2 years of early access announced and the “success” of ARK behind them, I don’t see any reality where Wildcard is not selling DLC for ATLAS this year. Given that they never managed to fix some of ARK’s biggest tech hurdles before shoving it out the door, I won’t believe they can pull off ATLAS until I actually see it done.

Wildcard can maybe redeem themselves a bit if they actually put more work into ARK this year. If we see those kibble fixes and the integration of S+ it will be a start. Not holding my breath, though.

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Arktouros

If you read the PC Gamer article (originally linked here) they specifically addressed the selling DLC during early access and they seem pretty keenly aware of how negatively it was received:

Stieglitz says Atlas will likely be in Early Access for two years or longer. It will not have any paid DLC or expansions because “the world of Atlas is obviously going to grow, but it should grow for everybody.” To help cover the cost of development, though, Atlas will eventually add cosmetic microtransactions before leaving Early Access. The idea, at this time, is that players will be able to buy outfits and decorations but in-game methods will be available to “grind” for these items. And though Atlas only costs $30 right now, it will eventually cost $60 when it leaves Early Access.

The rest, it’s 100% perfectly natural to be skeptical that WildCard will make Atlas live up to it’s potential. I’m right there with people and haven’t bought it. It’s like okay, we know this is dev studio with an unreliable reputation. I have thousands of hours into ARK, trust me, I know.

What I think is odd is the people screaming “SCAM!” or “DISASTER!” like they expected the company to announce the game and launch a fully perfect product wholly untested in this 30 day window. The same company that’s gone through this exact same process before with exact same type of game as before. Like this is all a known quantity, did people expect something different despite them not really promising anything different? Just seems weird.

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Tanek

I’ll have to think about it, but microtransactions may end up being just as bad in early access. Remember, this is the same group that said a game should not go into early access to get funding, but that it should be able to complete without early access money and use the process just for developing a better game (paraphrased from memory, but I’ll see if I can find the quote back in the mists of time).

EDIT: https://massivelyop.com/2015/12/22/studio-wildcard-creative-director-cautions-against-using-early-access-as-a-funding-method/
“Rapczak specifies that a game ready to launch in early access should be ready to launch in general, with the earlier access tailored toward ensuring that players can provide important feedback ahead of time. Thinking of early access as a way to generate more funds leads to a lack of consumer confidence, which in turn will eventually demolish the model as a whole.”

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Arktouros

When I consider everything about the scenario, I’m generally okay with it. DLC felt bad by comparison cause it was like they made a whole new map, whole new set of dinos, whole new set of mechanics meanwhile the base ones were still being worked out. Cosmetics on the other hand is more or less just skins and long as you iron out most of the initial animations/cosmetics the art team that isn’t working on new stuff can transition to working on other stuff to monetize. You aren’t sidetracking your main development people who should be fixing/expanding the original stuff.

However I’m generally okay with most games trying to make an extra buck on Cosmetics. We told game Devs cosmetics only and no p2w seems petty to bitch further about it.

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Tanek

Oh I’m ok with cosmetics in general, too. This is a special case because a) early access and b) Wildcard is on probation for me. Also, if it is true that they need microtransactions to fund development, I really hope they have a plan and can stick to it this time.

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Giggilybits

This game is not really even a game yet. It even says its Early Access on its Steam page so why all the hate? These Early Access/Kickstarter games are becoming a scourge on the gaming community. I guess im just too oldschool to follow silly trends.

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MrNastyButler

Atlas has a long road ahead of them. Maybe they can fix it, maybe not. It’s still too early for me to say on this. It’s launch was…well yeah, the less said the better on that. But it’s a bit early for me to say, I’ll give it two months to get a real opinion on their progress.

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rafael12104

Heh. Luckily I made this 30 second clip for just such an occasion.

Too long didn’t watch? Catch the last 5 seconds.

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MrNastyButler

Love the music.

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IronSalamander8 .

This trend of releasing games with various issues, and its not a new phenomenon by any means, and then apologizing and promising to be better has disturbing connotations for many reasons.

Stop supporting this stuff! We will continue to be plagued by this reprehensible behavior and broken games as long as people keep paying for it. Early Access can only excuse so much and is often used to hand wave glaring deficiencies in products like this. Early Access can be cool and can be used by small developers to help fund their product but it often is used poorly like this thing.

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PanagiotisLial1

I think its being used often as an excuse to release products too early, often skipping fully the QA and Testing phases, in favor to start bringing money earlier. On worse cases also what you see on EA is what you get with minor future fixes.

And because people always remember the bad more easily than the good they are giving a bad name to Early Access/Kickstarter/Pledging and there is a price to be paid as less and less people will trust any project, therefore affecting those who honestly work and want to deliver. Soon Early Access will be a bad word. As example for comparison due to mobile games mismanagement mobile game almost means cashgrab low quality game nowadays. Something similar will happen with Early Access which is unfortunate for indie studios with innovative ideas

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Cornelius Vortigern

yeah, yeah, whatever… the road to re gain player’s trust, will very long and uncomfortable for them. ARK was funny for some time, but to be honest that dinosaurs aspect annoyed me too quickly. Here is just a total conversion, without dinosaurs and with some ships and bugs. Veeeeeeeeeeery interesting…. ;)

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Armsbend

I’m waiting for Ubisoft’s Skull and Bones for my pirate fix. There is no reason I can see to get frustrated with Wildcard – they aren’t worth anyone’s time or emotion.

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K38FishTacos

And it’s not like we didn’t have plenty of warning.