Sony’s claims that it’s open to cross-platform play are bogus, game devs say

    
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Cross-platform play has been a hot-button issue for almost as long as online gaming has been commonplace, and for some time now, Sony has been fairly well known as one of the staunchest opponents to its widespread adoption. Recently, however, Shawn Layden — chairman of Sony Interactive Entertainment Worldwide Studios — told Game Informer that Sony was “open for business” in regard to cross-platform play and that all developers have to do is ask.

Well, some devs have taken exception to that remark, claiming that Layden’s public claims don’t reflect their experiences working with the company. As GIbiz recounts, Finn Brice, CEO of Starbound and Wargroove publisher Chucklefish, is one of them. In a post on ResetEra, Brice wrote that during the development of Wargroove, the studio “made many requests for crossplay […] all the way up until release month” and that it was “told in no uncertain terms that it was not going to happen.”

Of course, Sony has allowed cross-platform play in certain games — namely Fortnite and more recently Rocket League — so it’s not unheard of, but it would nevertheless seem that Layden’s claims that developers need but ask and they shall receive are somewhat spurious.

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IronSalamander8 .

More games need crossplay as long as there are so many platforms to play on (for example Paladins is on PC, Switch, PS4, and Xbox 1), as it otherwise dilutes the player pool too much.

I only play on PC as my consoles are all older generation and the hacking/cheating is overblown. It does exist, I’m not even trying to deny that, but it’s hardly as ubiquitous as some claim. Dev teams do need to hammer down on cheaters and hackers but if PvZ:GW2 had crossplay we’d be able to play other modes besides Turf Takeover, which while being the best mode, is not the only mode I want to play.

You can tell the controller players in Paladins as they have issues turning to face threats as I found out earlier this week with the crossplay enabled now, and mouse keyboard allows more minute control so something needs to be done to balance this out, but it’s still good for a game’s community overall. (As a side note I do have controllers for my PC as I also can’t stand using mouse+keyboard for games like the Binding of Isaac or the combat in Star Control).

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Rumm

Have fun with your Switch crossplay, I’ll be over here playing one of the many PS4 exclusives that were the actual reason that I bought a console for in the first place.

Wanna know why Sony hasn’t been jumping on the cross-platform train? They have absolutely no reason to. Nobody is gonna run out and buy a PS4 because they’re super hyped about being able to play with friends on XBOX…they’d just buy that one in the first place if it mattered so much. It would directly help their main competition and they would get nothing for it in return.

Are people going to base their purchase of the next generation of consoles based on whether or not they can play FIFA with someone on an Xbox, or will the games matter more like they did this generation. My money is overwhelmingly on the latter, and apparently so is Sony’s. God of War, Horizon, Last of Us, Uncharted, Spider-Man…that’s why I have a PS4.

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Xijit

I willfully snub shooters on PC due to all the hacks/aim bots and opt for the PS4 releases instead, so I have absolutely no issue with sony being tight asses and not opening games up for cross play.

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wratts

Totally agree. Any competitive game I admire the higher quality on PC but would rather play on PS4. You do see some hackers, even before cross-platform I would see Fortnite aimbots when my son was watching in spectator mode, but on PC it’s breaking in many communities

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Arktouros

This whole thing reads like a manifesto why I have avoided purchasing consoles and will never buy a PlayStation regardless of crossplay or not.

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I don’t doubt the possibility that Sony has denied cross-platform access for some developers, however I would really like to hear more details on what Sony has told those developers. Judging by the fact that they do allow full or partial cross-platform with some developers – I think there might be something that some developers like Chucklefish and Hi-Rez are disagreeing to implement, and I’d really like to know what was it.

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Sorenthaz

It’s kind of silly how this game has gone. During the PS3/360 era when the 360 was notably on top, Microsoft wouldn’t do cross platform at all with the only exception being FFXI iirc, maybe PSU. Now in the PS4/XB1 era where the PS4 has been doing better than the XB1, Sony is being super stingy about cross platform play and Microsoft is going full steam ahead with embracing it, even getting a deal with Nintendo to get the Xbox Live social features on the Switch.

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Armsbend

That tells me: if you are winning you are coming through a position of strength and don’t require the extra headaches along with the need to protect your lead.

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Sony is being super stingy about cross platform play and Microsoft is going full steam ahead with embracing it

Just FYI. You can play FFXIV on PS4 on same servers as PC players. You still can’t play FFXIV at all on XBOne. So who’s being “stingy”? ;-)

P.S: There is no clear answer as to why SE and Microsoft can’t agree on FFXIV but old interviews and rumors mention that SE doesn’t want to make FFXIV available on XBone until Microsoft will drop Xbox Live Gold fee requirement for FFXIV players and it appears MS still refuses that (Xbox Live Gold fee still mandatory for MMOs like ESO or upcoming BDO).

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Fervor Bliss

If FFXiV just accepted their share of the profits from Live Gold and drop the monthly fee like most MMO’s wouldn’t that solve the problem?

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BDJ

Anything for the clicks. More sensible headlines don’t work around these parts bro!

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Armsbend

It really didn’t make much sense.

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Armsbend

Well he said they needed to ask. They did and were soundly rejected.

NO LIE.

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Life_Isnt_Just_Dank_Memes

Meanwhile Phil Spencer of Microsoft and Nintendo have made a deal where Xbox Live will be on the Switch.

This is an instance where the market leader should be playing nice. Consoles aren’t gonna be a thing soon. Everyone all wants to have streaming tech. You pay a sub and own nothing.

That’s when I think I’ll happily bow out of my favorite past time and take up Lionel trains and start wearing a conductor’s uniform around the house.

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BDJ

Stahp with the madness. Consoles will always be a thing. At least for the foreseeable future (next decade).

The streaming tech will rely heavily on everyone needing top tier broadband. This is something that isn’t anywhere close to reality for a majority of the United States, which is a huge gaming market.

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Random MMO fan

Consoles aren’t gonna be a thing soon.

Consoles will ALWAYS be “a thing”. Simply because of the FACT that no internet provider will give you a 100% uptime guarantee and there are many reasons where someone might want to play the game where internet connection is not available in any form.

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Neiloch Fyrestarter

“Sony Two-Faced about Cross-Platform, Sayz Devz” for the tabloids
“SONY blocking ALL Cross-Platform Play?!” or “Whistle-blower Insiders call out SONY!” alternates as well.

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Greaterdivinity

And the Hi-Rez CEO called them out on Twitter too.

I’m glad to see folks calling Sony’s bullshit, because Sony has legit been lying through their teeth on this for a while. Publishers and developers are just mostly too afraid to publicly call them out as they don’t want to damage their relationships with a platform holder.

Chucklefish and Hi-Rez are taking a big risk with this and I hope it pays off. They deserve the visibility bump if they manage to get Sony to stop this stupidity and the lies.

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rosieposie

Aww, it’s almost like that heartwarming moment of the Sony suit joining hands with MS and Nintendo suits on the Game Awards ’18 stage would have been just for the sake of optics!