Blade & Soul loses Producer Jonathan Lien

    
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Rabbit Man is sad today because Rabbit Man heard the news that Jonathan Lien is leaving his post as producer for Blade and Soul.

“I wanted to let you know that this is my last week as producer of Blade and Soul as I am departing to pursue other opportunities,” Lien posted on the forums. “I can hardly believe it’s been four years on this project and I wanted to extend my sincere thanks to the entire community for their support, enthusiasm, and passion. I’ll always cherish the memories of the launch party and World Championships as some of the happiest moments of my life.”

Lien had been the producer for the western version of the MMO since January 2015. Before taking taking the lead for Blade and Soul, Lien worked in QA for both NCsoft and Blizzard. He will be succeeded by Nicolas Coutant, who used to be the original producer of the game.

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Bruno Brito

“I wanted to let you know that this is my last week as producer of Blade and Soul as I am departing to pursue other opportunities,” Lien posted on the forums. “I can hardly believe it’s been four years on this project and I wanted to extend my sincere thanks to the entire community for their support, enthusiasm, and passion. I’ll always cherish the memories of the launch party and World Championships as some of the happiest moments of my life.”

Translation: I’ve been fired, and while i’ve worked with great people, the top people were jackasses, but if i want to have any hope of finding another job, i need to stfu, even when i feel a extreme urge to send them to hell and back.

Hope he lands on his feet. Best of luck.

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rafael12104

Lol! Great translation.

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Bruno Brito

I aspire to entertain.

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kgptzac

So what does he supposedly say if he isn’t fired and his bosses aren’t jackasses? Stuff an extra sentence saying it’s been a great pleasure working with people?

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Fenrir Wolf

Hopefully things will work out for them.

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rafael12104

Goodbye, Jonathan. You did a fantastic job. Thanks for the streams and the hard work. Hopefully, this is a good move for you.

And I hope I’m wrong about the direction the game is taking.

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PanagiotisLial1

I only tried that game at launch, had a fun week trying it but was busy with other games I had been investing time on. Unfortunately games of this type(that base fully or partially on wuxia and/or eastern mythology and history) have become very rare. I personally like variety on gaming themes

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Utakata

Is this something we need to be concerned about Mr. rafael? :(

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rafael12104

Hard to tell, but things have not been going well as you know. It could be just one of those things where a person finds another interest or opportunity.

But, Jonathan took a lot of heat whenever something went wrong. He was on the front lines. And it seems to me that these last few patches he has not been as enthusiastic as he was just six months ago. It must be frustrating to take the grief for decisions made in Korea.

So, there is cause for concern because given the last financials now is not the time to shuffling jobs. Now is the time to let producers and devs make the game great again in each individual region.

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Akagi

For me the game was very primitive, mediocre and limited (in customization) and I could never get into it. Also the character creation allowed for many female characters to be just inhumanly oversized thighs, attached to inhumanly oversized breasts holding a sword, which was very disgusting seeing so many perverts playing the game.

I could not get into the game, mainly because there was no proper gear system in the game, but it was just cosmetics. So I generally never had a good opinion of this game (and I’m a sucker for Asian themed MMOs … be it Three Kingdoms War or Wuxia) so I don’t see how this guy leaving is bad. The game always felt mediocre to me and I bet he knew that as well, he just got paid so he shut his mouth about it and pretended like the game is a super awesome project of passion (like ArcheAge and Bless xD). And probably at this point he’s had enough bullshit and decided to jump ship, or he was told by higher ups that they no longer need him.

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Utakata

Way to read into that which isn’t likely there. Sorry this game didn’t work out for you…but I suspect that *Mr. Lien likely left for far more prosaic reasons than given in you’re narrative. /shrug

*Note: On the side, I almost called him Mr. Lyn there for a sec. o.O

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rafael12104

Lol! Mr. Lyn. Well, I’m sure he was pushing for the Lyn Warden release. We need it.

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rafael12104

Well, the game has come along way. It barely resembles what it once was in terms of grind and rng. Big improvements.

As for play, hmm. Tastes do vary. But after playing the game since launch I can give you my opinion based on my experience.

The story is pretty damn good. It is a Wuxia story, master and student, that type of stuff. But there are some twists and turns that keep you turning the page, so to speak. And after the events that transpire in the second xpac, you are emotionally vested.

The artistic style is very unique and celebrates a well known Korean artist. It is not anime and has an east meets west sensibility.

The combat is top notch. The best of any MMO out there. Oh, I know it sounds like hyperbole, but I’ve tried quite a few and only TERA can compete with BnS. The best way to describe it is instant and strategic. Action but cerebral.

So, it ticks off enough boxes for me to keep me playing for 3 years.

As for Mr. Lien? I think he is a casualty of an ongoing battle that happens in all games of this lineage, the regions vs. the home office.

Korea calls the shots as I have mentioned. But the regions should have more control of the game as it pertains to their customers. And I think that Jonathan had enough of that fight. Just a guess.

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Akagi

I forgot, the other thing that turned me off were races other than humans, especially the small animal people that look like children. I expect a Wuxia game to be based in the real world (not entirely necessary) and to have only humans as a race in the world.

Another big downside for me was the poor English voice acting, I’d prefer original Korean voices and subtitles, it would’ve been less effort for them and more immersion for the players.

The main problem that still remains is that gear doesn’t work like I’d expect it to – shoes, pants, vests are all just cosmetic items and I don’t like that. The whole itemization system really turned me off. The one thing I did like about the game was the character customization was good and you could make your unique character.

I was willing to look past the weird races and poor English voice acting, but the item system totally killed it for me.

I’m usually a sucker for Asian themed MMOs, but I feel like after around 2011, the Asian games that have been released have lost their “spirit” (or never had it to begin with) and just feel plain bad. The graphics look sketchy, the UIs look confusing and bad and the gameplay seems shallow. Prime example for this are TERA, B&S and ArcheAge.

Keep in mind, this is my opinion, I’m not trying to pass it as solid facts.

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kgptzac

> which was very disgusting seeing so many perverts playing the game

Not sure if serious, but welcome to the Internet, a thing that has been invented for a reason.

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Akagi

I’m serious, it’s just kinda disgusting how easily you can identify the horny weirdos. In times like this, I kind of wish games didn’t have such freedom in character customization.

The other example is in TERA where it also has a Loli race and it’s infested with these … things in there.