World of Warcraft: Classic is now planned to get six phases of content over time

    
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Same old story.

As we approach the planned launch of World of Warcraft: Classic, it turns out we’re getting a larger number of content updates than were originally announced at last year’s BlizzCon. Before you get too excited, it’s still all familiar old content; it’s just being staggered out over a wider timeframe, expanding from four phases of content patches to six, with phases two through six still to be determined while phase one will launch with the Classic client in the summer.

The increased number of drops allows for the game to retain certain access limitations, like ensuring that Zul’gurub gear isn’t available at the same time as Blackwing Lair progression starts. There’s also no firm choices made yet on PvP rewards, as those systems changed over time both in terms of acquisition and gear power. But if you were deeply concerned that having Zul’gurub too early would ruin the feel of the game world, well, worry no longer.

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styopa

The best thing I’ve seen in the classic topic forums? From Blue:

Q: Things we KNOW will NOT be in the game?
A:
– LFR/LFD
– Cross realms
– Races after Vanilla
– Any content beyond Vanilla (as of right now)

That “as of right now” suggests to me that content after vanilla – ie TBC, etc – might be on the table. If they could add it but modify it down to linear scaling from Vanilla instead of exponential, that could be amazing. But honestly, it would almost be an entirely different game by then.

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Mallus

Is there an ETA on the classic servers? Thanks

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Loopy

This summer. No exact date as of yet.

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Loopy

Hype for Classic is currently overpowering all my desires to play a different/new MMO. I am genuinely excited to jump back in.

I honestly think i’m simply excited to be an adventurer again, and not a chosen one/great warrior with amnesia/savior of the universe/general of a great army/a fallen god/what have you..

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Giggilybits

Cant wait to level up my weapon skills again and play my gimped Dwarf paladin which I loved so much.

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maydrock .

Wonder if they will integrate this with the Caverns of Time?

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Songs for Children

The first Caverns of Time dungeons were in Burning Crusade.

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styopa

My pipedream fantasy would be that Classic is successful enough that they add the zones for TBC, etc but continue power scaling linearly instead of the exponential/silly that began at TBC.
It’s a ridiculous idea I know, staggering amounts of work for basically no reward for them. But that’s where pipedreams live.

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Loopy

That actually would be kinda cool. You go into CoT in live version, and as soon as you walk through the portal the original WoW cinematic plays and you’re thrown into the Classic WoW character selection screen.

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kjempff

Trying to get some of the good stuff from progression servers build in. Well when they make a real progression server I am in, but stuck on classic forever .. nah.
And they wont make the original hunter pets .. bah, that was the one thing I was looking forward to :P

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styopa

Wait, they aren’t? No more camping Broken Tooth for the 1.0 attack speed?
/sad.

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kjempff

Nop, it will be the normalized pet system. There were an official reply from Bliz about this exact question.

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maydrock .

I haven’t heard anything like that, do you have a link?

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kjempff

Sorry I don’t. I just remember getting Broken Tooth was the main driver for trying WoW classic (yeah I am wierdly specific in my needs lol), so I asked around and someone directed to some official faq.
It would just be too much work for such a small thing .. was the reasoning.

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hurbster

Yeah, SW, IF Menethil Harbour death run incoming.

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Tamanous

Good old Classic Wow. Only zone where Druids come from … no 2h mace training. The most popular hunter race … no 2h axe training. Most popular profession for hunter is engineering … no engineering training.

You want to level with your forsaken friend as shaman, druid or hunter? No trainers.

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hurbster

I can’t bloody wait.

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ogged451

While this plan looks sensible, it’s just not the same without the 50 people from my original WoW guild, so I’ll pass. After all, the right people is at least 50% of the fun.

Btw, this “progression server” thing seems the latest rage, someone should ask NCSoft for a CoH one.

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Ironwu

It is not a ‘progression server’. It is just rolling out the classic raids in an orderly fashion rather than dumping everything in classic on the servers at once. The game does not proceed past classic and into Burning Crusade.

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Rick Mills

Yet…

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Tamanous

The term is being used as “progression” through Classic content. Not through all expansions. Content and gear will be progressed but on 1.12 class mechanics that don’t change.

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Arktouros

I mean it’s pretty much textbook definition of a progression server. In WOW you hit level cap, then as your gear improves you improve. So if they sequentially release new game content that advances your gear progression (IE: Molten Core/Onyxia -> Blackwing Lair -> Zul’Gurub -> Naxaramas) what else would you possibly call that? The only difference, for now, is that we have a stopping point.

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Bruno Brito

I wonder. Will this follow the normal pserver progression where you lobotomize yourself raiding MC/Onyxia for 3 months before setting foot on BWL and crying your eyes out because you can’t raid another fucking lava cave or fiery depths anymore?

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Utakata

…or another way to look at it, once those 6 supposed content patches drop, Classic WoW will be eternally in maintenance mode. >.>

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Bruno Brito

To be fair, Naxx is relatively hard so i can see it lasting a year with a decent pop. It’s also a gatekeeping raid, since half of the shit you can pull at MC/Onyxia/etc can’t be pulled at Naxx ( good luck raiding Naxx as a enhancement shaman ).

Honestly, i think it’ll have a decent pop on maintenance mode, IF YOU FORGET this is WoW.

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J

There was a forum poll in which over 11k people responded. Most people were in the 25-35 age bracket. Most of them had also quit after Vanilla, BC or Lich. So taking those facts into consideration, odds are pretty good that you will run into an old buddy or two.

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Danny Smith

As time goes on the buzz seems to be simmering down for this on most sites i visit, but with a team sounding more passionate than the BfA team behind it, even if it does seem like a “see? see? our sub numbers went up***” extreme attempt at plugging a leak, its going to be interesting to see what happens if it proves to pull significant people away from the ‘live’ version of the game.
Don’t get me wrong i expect it to get a cool million subs for the first 2-3 months then drop to like 200k max, but if i’m wrong and it ends up a runaway success, again i suppose, i wonder what impact it has on blizzard as a whole.

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Tamanous

200k is rather low. More than that already play on private servers and they don’t even advertise, aren’t official and don’t attract a large portion of retail players who still think they are the most evil thing in the universe.

Classic will be huge. Bigger than nearly anyone here expects. Blizzard’s response to this will be dictated by Activision greed the moment someone outside of the current tiny (and nearly independent) Classic development team hears of it.

I hope that Blizzard sees the benefit of nurturing specific genre and audience markets again, but I have absolutely zero faith in that due to the direction of their business over the last several years. Perhaps they’ll think of TBC and keep Classic on life support as it’s a stand alone product once progression is completed. Only server cycling is required. Or, they could see that some additional development of Classic is warranted.

It’s one of the few Legacy projects that doesn’t sound like a cash grab with minimal effort. The story behind it is deeper than that and I hope it stays that way.

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Bruno Brito

I do think they’re realizing they can’t drop the ball on Classic.

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Danny Smith

Private servers dont have a subscription fee and vary with multiple different options to appeal to different tastes across the board, meanwhile FFXI still survives on less than 200k players. Eve is probably closer to 30k at this point. Plenty are in love with the idea. The execution however has to be proven. “Its going to be huge” means literally nothing because we simply don’t know how its going to do at all. Will it be a huge success when the genre as a whole is not the massive bubble they were when vanilla came out? i’m not going to say its likely just because i played it on release and have fond memories. That market doesn’t exist anymore. Not nearly in the same way.

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Minimalistway

Blizzard expect that to happen, the current CEO (don’t remember the name) interviewed and said this for PC Gamer, they don’t mind low number, the project is more important than the number of players, it’s an archive and they mean to keep it open, high or low number of players.

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Tamanous

It all depends on how much independence Blizzard still has under Activision. The reality is that projects and employees can vanish or change focus in a blink of an eye, because “stock market and investors”. Blizzard is still bound to that cycle. I see both positive and negative possibilities from varying success of Classic. I’ll play it without worry, but the market observer side of me is interested in where this is headed.

I am currently happy just knowing Blizzard is trying to maintain a presence in the pc market. They require a minimal level of autonomy however to have any ability to steer their direction of development. That has yet to be proven imo.

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J

Once it goes through its content cycle it won’t be hard to maintain. While trivial in comparison Asheron’s Call ran in maintenance mode for years. With only two people minding the servers.

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J

From what we have seen so far, the bulk of those interested in Classic are not playing the live game. They are not current subscribers. What this will do is pull people away from private servers. Since it will be more reliable and more populated. People want Classic, but Blizzard also wants the bucks they are missing out on.

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mystwen

I would agree with this. Those still playing WoW love it enough to still be playing. It gives those of us who wanted out of current WoW a place to play. I am willing to sub again for it, and that’s one more sub than they have now.

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David Blair

That linked forum thread is getting a lot of love from the fans. Sounds like a passionate team working on the Classic stuff…