EVE Online takes steps toward better 64-bit Mac support

    
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If you don’t speak development, the fact that EVE Online has deprecated the ccp-master fork and moved to an upstream Wine version for the game’s Mac client will look like so much gibberish. Fortunately, the actual announcement goes into more detail than just laying that statement down and then knocking off for an early lunch. In short, this means that Mac users will no longer be running the game through a 32-bit shell, which ultimately means unified 64-bit upgrades for the game’s 64-bit client.

This will mean that Mac users will have their settings changed slightly, and players will need to enable secondary click in their MacOS mouse settings. So it will be a minor hiccup for players to deal with in the moment, but the up side will be a better overall client support for Mac users in the long run. So get out of here, ccp-master fork! You shan’t be missed.

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Melissa McDonald

Macs just aren’t for gaming. I’m honestly not sure WHAT they are good at anymore. I use mine for Garage Band. OK, so it’s pretty good for DAW work. I’ll grant it that. But weak onboard graphics suck, so I can’t recommend one for video or photo editing when there are a slew of PCs that cost half as much and are twice as powerful. OK so there is some Unix compatibility that makes them acceptable for Dev work, but any decent VM program solves that on a PC that costs far less. Web surfing and general internet life? Well, I’ve got a refurb $165 Chomebook that excels at that. If I want to game on my Mac I flip over to Win7 in Bootcamp. I get 10-20 FPS faster gameplay on same hardware just because I’m using Win7 instead of MacOS.

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Those non-cylindrical Mac Pro’s were pretty decent boxes though costly compared to say a similarly configured workstation from HP. I would say it was more workflow oriented in some shops like Applescript or Automator. Xgrid was also cool for distributed computing but it was yet another piece of server tech Apple ended up killing. Plus drag and drop used to just work better on MacOS than Windows. The Mac’s they sell now are mostly just mobile tech in a desktop form factor except that iMac Pro which is still mostly a closed box (I dislike all-in-one form factors like that). So yeah, it’s harder to justify the cost differential.

Native gaming on a Mac also left the train station a long time ago (and Apple Arcade isn’t going to change anything). Apple didn’t help any there (outdated OpenGL for many years before they dumped it in favor of Metal) along with bare minimal driver support. I know that back around the 10.9 time frame, Blizzard had to jump through hoops for some of their game clients to deal with the outdated OpenGL support.

I just use my last remaining Mac for financial stuff since I never did consider dual booting for gaming (just bought an actual PC for that and everything else now). The platform has lots of smaller titles but hard to find native versions of most MMORPG’s out there so I just viewed dual booting as yet another thing to jump through hoops if I had decided to stick with one for everything.

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semugh

cryptic, do you hear this? EVE supports 64bit macs.

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Bullwraith

The next version of MacOS (coming this fall) will not support 32 bit programs, so this is a rather important change.

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Melissa McDonald

that’s completely bizarre. You can play 20 year old software in Windows 10.

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Apple quickly depreciates API’s compared to Microsoft. This complete transition to 64-bit has been years in the making (prior years, they gave notice and then user facing warnings in 10.13 and 10.14 when running 32-bit apps) and they put a hard line in the sand for this years operating system update.

It’s another reason I moved away from the Mac. I have perfectly usable software that requires staying on older versions of MacOS (which also no longer receive even security updates past the 3rd major revision which in Apple’s case, has been yearly updates starting from 10.9).

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johnwillo

Yeah. I think that I’m going to end up with VMWare running Mojave on all of my Macs just to keep running 32-bit games.

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johnwillo

CCP-Master Fork was one of my favorite rappers. :(