The Daily Grind: Are you up for a buy-to-play ArcheAge?

    
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Last week’s news that ArcheAge is prepping a new buy-to-play, anti-pay-to-win server certainly caught a lot of our community’s attention — and divided its opinion as well. Some were attracted to the idea of starting fresh on an ArcheAge server not spoiled by paid segregation and inane cash shop practices, while others felt as though it was too late and not worth the up-front cost of admission.

Now that we’ve had a little time to really digest this announcement, I’d like to collaboratively mull over it once more. Are you up for a buy-to-play ArcheAge? If so, are you currently playing the game, did you in the past, or have you never really gotten in to this MMO sandbox?

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Leyaa1
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Leyaa1

I always had my eye on Archage despite it being a korean MMO. Personally, i dislike the artstyle of korean MMOs with their skimpy outfits and sexualization of the little races, but Archage always looked pleasing to me. But the negative reviews on their cash shop has driven me away.
I will wait and see how this Unchained version will turn out (after all its Gamigo now and they are one of the worst publishers i can think of), but this is the first time where i actually consider to give Archage a serious try.

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Toy Clown

I loved AA alpha, but there were many blunders made in localization for NA-side, but I still lasted about a year and a half. There was a lot of investment, mostly time-wise, but cash was part of it, too. It was a little heartbreaking to lose everything I had and is the biggest reason I shy away from the game now.

The announcement left me intrigued, and I even smiled thinking about jumping in again, but it turned upside down when I remember all the investment trashed and just not wanting to go through it again, especially with the way the old publishers loved tossing out new servers, merging dead servers… over and over and over again.

The definition of insanity comes to mind.

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tiltowait

I had no problem with archeage as it was. But played it enough, and I think they over-expanded the game (too many housing areas devalued the house prices, & hurt zone population by spreading players thinner and thinner.)

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butterpanda888

yes.

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Mewmew

Nope! My basic issues with the game have absolutely nothing to do with the cash shop, even if the cash shop compounded issues on top of it.

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Antiseptic

Color me beyond skeptical…

The latest “fad” these Korean MMO’s have been trying is taking their F2P games and turning them into B2P ones in the west with the promise of removing the P2W. How many of these studios actually redesigned the games core to account for that? ZERO. Neowiz with Bless Online (which closes next month), Playwith Interactive with Warlords Awakening (which closed in June), and Barunson E&A with Astellia Online (launching next month in the west; F2P in KR but already has retention issues only 9 months in to its life).

With ArcheAge, developer (XLGAMES) and prior NA/EU publisher (Trion) worked in concert once Trion finalized their plans for monetization to maximize revenue sharing. The original executive producer (Voss) handcrafted that model which ended up being adapted to the rest of their library. She continued overseeing 3rd party publishing including getting Devilian and then plowing it straight into the ground (she is now at Roblox working her magic there). Kwai (Khrolan) became the executive producer for ArcheAge and continued the path that Voss laid down.

Some of those same Trion decision makers including Khrolan are now making these same decisions at gamigo. So why the hell would I trust that anything is going to be different? gamigo’s modus operandi is to take dead games and milk their remaining players. The revenues ArcheAge was making for Trion probably had the suits at gamigo falling over themselves when they picked up Trion’s assets. So what better way to milk this cow? Let’s take the exact same game, make minimal changes to it (if you really want to get rid of the P2W, the game needs core design changes; not just tweaking numbers or moving consumables from cash shop to some daily login rewards or achievements), eliminate the sub requirement to own land, give labor a 5k ceiling, and tack on a price tag for the game with a non-binding promise that the P2W/C/whatever the hell you want to call it, won’t sneak back in again. Let’s use this new business model along with a bit of alpha nostalgia to get some of those folks back (because anything we get is gravy).

gamigo is worse than Trion ever was. Trion at least had operational and support staff. gamigo tries to run everything operationally thin as possible. They have some 3rd party Asian developed titles from their Aeria acquisition but nothing like ArcheAge. Heard they tried pushing the servers into lower cost cloud services but couldn’t get it to work well and had to continue with physical servers. Heard they also had to hire back some Trion staff that were originally let go because they couldn’t handle running it the gamigo way w/o pissing off the remaining players.

We saw how Trion dealt with the game. I know how gamigo has handled whatever they get their hands on and have no reason to believe they will manage this better. I no longer even play or have the desire to play the F2P version and I am sure not going to give gamigo any money for this B2P cash grab.

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Celestia

Too much squandered goodwill for too many years to consider playing ArcheAge again.

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Celestia

They could pay me, and I still wouldn’t touch ArcheAge again.

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Celestia

I will continue to purchase the ArcheAge Hard Pass as I have since for weeks they repeatedly sent numerous autogenerated responses to my refund request until I had passed their refund deadline. Oddly enough when I then responded that I wanted my Trion account deleted, I received an immediate response from a CSR.

I have 125 reasons to never touch that cesspool of a game.

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Grim? Darhk

Probably. But I’m going to wait to make sure it’s not more of the same.