WoW Classic: Free character boosts, Onyxia down, and another dev video

    
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Get a lot done in World of Warcraft Classic over the weekend? Probably not as much as the world first level 60 — or the guild APES, which managed to be the very first group to take down both Ragnaros and Onyxia. Professional raiding guild Method, which streamed the race to these raid firsts, congratulated the victors on Twitter.

Guess that means that the pressure is off of you to simply enjoy the game now, eh? There still might be some incentive to pushing up to the level cap beyond the experience: The World of Warcraft Brazilian Facebook page briefly posted a promotion advertising a free copy of Battle for Azeroth and a level 110 character boost on retail to anyone who reached 60 on Classic. It remains to be seen if this promotion will roll out for everyone or if it was a goof on the part of the community team.

And finally, original lead developer Jeff Kaplan became the star of another video reminiscing about the vanilla era and what he remembers from his days working on the title. You can check that out after the break!

Source: Wowhead, #2. Thanks Steve!

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peor togs

Hmm, enjoying classic.

Would probably take up that offer on bfa and a 110 boost to check out retail.

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Mewmew

A group of people with nothing else to do in life were able to sit on an unskilled video game for the longest amount of time together to get through things quickest. Yeah, great. Congrats. Your life achievements are measured in things you did in timed based unskilled video games. Amazing.

Yikes.

To me this is sort of like giving out big congrats and accolades to a group of people who were able to pick the most boogers out of their noses without making them bleed over a weekend.

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deekay_000

people are surprised that a group of people that spent the past 10+ years speed running this content for fun on pservers did the content quicker than a guild that hasn’t been speed running the content for 10+ years.

i know i’m shocked.

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Sorenthaz

APES apparently was a private server guild that’s done this plenty of times over in the past. Part of how they got to the point where they could do raids so fast was that they abused the 10man exp bug that Blizzard didn’t fix until this weekend.

It’s funny though how people are using this to vindicate that Retail > Classic by arguing that Classic raids are brainless and anyone who does a regular dungeon in Retail can do a raid in Classic. As if for some reason we need to compare an apple that turned into an orange over the span of 15 years and folks aren’t allowed to call Classic hard/challenging.

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Bruno Brito

t’s funny though how people are using this to vindicate that Retail > Classic by arguing that Classic raids are brainless and anyone who does a regular dungeon in Retail can do a raid in Classic.

Honestly, there’s more of denial than anything. The facts of the matter is that, while difficulty is more subjective, retail raiding is WAY more complex than Classic. Classic wasn’t really brought because of it’s raid quality, but because the REST of the game was lacking on Retail.

It’s always in vague terms: “The RPG feel” or some crap like that. But Raiding? Retail raiding is way more fleshed out and complex than Classic raiding. That’s not debatable.

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Sorenthaz

Obviously but Classic is still difficult in its own right because it requires coordination and communication between more individuals than retail. Several boss mechanics require coordination and responding appropriately.

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Dobablo

Silly people will always strawman to make their arguements, completely ignoring key factors to play-up the role of the issue they want to attack. Back in the day it took me nearly 10 days /played for my first character to reach L60, but the /played for my second character was 6 days. My main also wiped multiple times against Ragnaros, but my lesser-geared alt killed him on the first attempt. According to their crazy logic the Vanilla game in November 2005 was challenging while the February 2006 version was braindead easymode.

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Utakata

Welp…it looks like they where doing this for the shits, nostalgia and giggles instead. As opposed to “meaningful hard, hard” content in that highly /upvoted post was going on about a few days ago…

I agree with Mr. Bal’s down below though, if that what floats their boats, then there is nothing wrong with them enjoying themselves. But let’s cut the hardcore, cupcake pretenses please. Thnkx!

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Daniel Reasor

Other than the question of whether a “world first” counts on fifteen year-old content or not, the fact that Ragnaros and Onyxia were downed in the first week could potentially impact a few long-running arguments.

Like whether the difficulty of Vanilla raiding justifies the exclusion of DPS-specced Paladins, Shamans, and Druids, for example.

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Dobablo

The difficulty of Vanilla MC/Onyxia never justified the exclusion of non-meta specs. The hardest part of the initial raids was gathering 40 people at the start on time. Someone in the “wrong” spec who turns up, follows instructions and stays alive was always better than being under-headcount, and leaving a space was better then taking the perfectly spec’ed moron who stood in fire and pulled the whelps.
An undergeared retri-paladin that gets out of fire does more damage than a dead rogue.

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Danny Smith

I’m assuming they shied away from Kaplan at the time using the name “Tigole Bitties”? what a different time it was.

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Loopy

His character name in the video was Tig :)

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styopa

Not sure I buy the world first Ragnaros. Has Blizz confirmed it? There are some pretty serious questions about Hydraxian Waterlords rep exploit, not to mention someone’s claiming there are lvl 34s in the rag completion video. I don’t know, those may be sour grapes.

If you enjoy retail, just own it. You don’t have to justify it. The fact that there’s now a Classic version doesn’t HURT you.
If you enjoy Classic, just own it. You don’t have to justify it. The fact that there’s a retail version doesn’t HURT you.

Play what YOU want to play and stop asserting that you have some Holy Revealed Truth about what other people “should” enjoy and why.

https://www.method.gg/raid-history

From what I can see, original vanilla (you know, with no real information resources, no pre-release beta, and no organization to start with) Rag took 154 days to down. That they did it now in what, 6 days? is terrific.

Then again, according to that same raid history…that’s about the same time it takes to down most new bosses:
Eternal Palace: 12d
Crucible of Storms: 9d
Darzalor: 7d
…by that measure while downing Rag in 6d is a heck of an accomplishment, considering how much harder current raids are technically than old MC, it’s pretty much par for the course for these extremely talented groups of players IN EITHER GAME.

Maybe set down the blue/red faction crap for a moment.

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Bruno Brito

From what I can see, original vanilla (you know, with no real information resources, no pre-release beta, and no organization to start with) Rag took 154 days to down. That they did it now in what, 6 days? is terrific.

He was unkillable “pre-nerf”. He would get his hp to 1 or something and not die. Gotta research on that, since it’s word of mouth info.

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maydrock .

I’m halfway through Darkshore, am I still in the race?

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Arktouros

To me it just doesn’t carry the same weight as the original. I remember spending 12+ hours on fights like Lucifron because there were no strategies. There were no guides. No mechanics addons. No in game guides to boss mechanics. No one knew what they were doing or how to do it. It was only until Conquest got banned from the game by Blizzard (for “exploiting” Line of Sight) and they released their strategies people started hearing about others making progress.

I don’t say that to be a hater, and 100% recognize the sheer amount of actual hard work and sleepless nights these people had to get where they are. It just feels more like a xerox copy of an accomplishment someone else actually already made first.

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Haxton

Buuuuut, you gotta remember that these guys did practice on a private server before hopping on live. Not to mention they’re a bunch of nobodies going against popular streamers with sponsers. I give them props for that.

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Dug From The Earth

um… they have been practicing the game for 10+ years. Forget the private servers and beta.

There is simply NOTHING new about classic. (nor was there hyped to be). People thinking they were going to relive the experiences they had were just naive. Again, this doesnt mean classic isnt fun. Im enjoying it quite a bit. But the experience is NOTHING like what I played 15 years ago.

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Malcolm Swoboda

Well, the layering (and the fast-tracking through it) is ‘new’.

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cambruin

To me it plays exactly how I thought it would. I hated Blizzard for how they treated WoW during Cataclysm. For how they continued to stray further away from ‘my’ path. For how they ended an era of honest MMO development (imo).

So I started playing other MMOs, with horrible lootboxes (LotRO, ESO, GW2, …), ingame stores, ‘convenience’ being marketed and sold to inconvenienced players, quest markers on minimaps destroying any need for actual exploration, group finders removing the need for human interaction (ok, LotRO tried and failed miserably), landscape PvE being completed by the repeated pressing of a single button, …

I absolutely love Classic and hope it can affect the current MMO scenery and bring it back to it’s roots.

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Arktouros

Again my goal is not to undermine the time or effort involved here as I recognize absolutely both play a factor.

However the fact they could even go onto a private server and practice is also kinda the point. It’s a good and faithful recreation from hard work and effort but none the less a recreation.

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Michael18

You’re right, it does not carry the same weight.

But from my understanding (which might’ve been incorrect) it wasn’t intended to carry the same weight. It seemed to me the “race to world first” organized by Method on Twitch was mainly intended to be an event to celebrate the return of the early incarnation of WoW. The “world first” thing probably happened because someone tried to find a catchy title and ended up with something admittedly misleading.

If you think about these “races to world first” as speed runs of an old game, it all makes much more sense. I think they should’ve gone for something like that in the title too.

Having said all this, 95% of the players enjoy the game in an entirely different way anyway, by questing and taking their time.