German magazine ad appears to confirm impending announcement of Diablo 4

    
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Uh...huh.

It’s been long-rumored – and heck we all expected it last year – but it kinda looks like Diablo 4 has been confirmed by a careless ad in a German print magazine landing in subber mailboxes already.

According to German site Gamestar, the ad is promoting The Art of Diablo art book: “Featuring over 500 artworks from Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo III and Diablo IV, this book features many noteworthy artworks created for Blizzard Entertainment’s iconic action RPG, which has given generations of fans everlasting nightmares.”

The book in the ad is meant to come out in November, which sure would dovetail nicely with BlizzCon in a few weeks, wouldn’t it.

Of course, any Diablo announcement is going to feel muted right now, given last year’s botched Diablo Immortal reveal and the ongoing Hearthstone esports drama over Hong Kong.

Source: Gamestar via VG247, Giga.de via Reddit. Thanks, Pepperzine!

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Eh, even if true I’m done with Blizzard until they turn their act around on HK.

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angrakhan

I’ll play it because I’m a sucker for ARPG’s. However, I’d really like to see a Grim Dawn sequel with updated engine and animations. I like the huge variety of classes over Diablo, and PoE just gives me tired head for some reason. Probably because it’s set up to be a RMT pay to win fiasco. Between all the in-game RMT spam for currency and Poe.trade it just takes a fat wallet to have the best of the best in no time.

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Expecting usual Blizzard’s “release when it’s done, 2025, with the past generation visuals obsolete even before release – due to the 10 years development cycle”

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Darthbawl

Single player offline mode please please please.

Half-Life 3 announcement after this LOL. 😂

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Arktouros

I mean we pretty much knew this was going to be the case after last year’s Diablo Immortal fiasco and then basically having to semi-announce Diablo 4 last year to quell the outrage over mobile titles.

Diablo 3 gets a lot of shit for some of it’s blunders but it’s still one of the most sold video games of all time. A good, solid Diablo 4 is going to do really well. There’s also some really interesting questions where a Diablo 4 is going to take us as well. Personally I’m pretty interested and looking forward to it.

Also unconfirmed with all this from a reliable source in the past is that they will be doing Diablo 2 Remastered as well.

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Pepperzine

Misread, deleted

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Armsbend

He is right. It’s just out of the top 10 at 30M games sold. Multiply that out at an average of maybe $35 and the dollar amount is staggering.

And yet – it is not enough for Activision. It is never enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

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Arktouros

Yeap, was in the top 10 for a really long time too. Really took me by surprise because if you listen to most gamers talk about it the hate is unending.

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Armsbend

Every shred of GGG’s success is owed to the hate of D3.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Surely not every shred. There’s always been a keen base for PoE. Besides, the D3 forums were always full of POE SUCKS threads, so PoE did not pick up every D3 player.

However much PoE benefited from Blizz’s stupid decision re D3, it had to be good enough to keep those players. For some it was; for some it wasn’t.

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well they defo didn’t need 30M people to make their game a success. A tiny fraction of that – which they got and then some.

I think PoE might have done okay – but it really was right place; right time imho. With a good game to back it up.

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Arktouros

For my part I will say I left D3 and went to POE because I feel POE is doing more interesting things. They’re at least trying to innovate or trying to come up with new game mechanics where as Diablo 3 is just like “here’s an extra 3000% damage on X set, enjoy next season.”

However I still feel D3 does some shit better. Leveling Act 1-10 each league in POE is annoying to be gated by specific content where as D3 lets you hop right into the end game loop of Rifts/Bounties right away.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I agree, PoE’s insistence on repetitive game play is tiresome; I play for a few weeks, then get bored. I like to play unusual builds, but just get tired of having to slog through the same content.

No one can touch D3 for combat and skill effects and when you have a need for speed, nothing compares to it.

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Arktouros

I’ve hit a routine in POE now where I hit maps by time I go to sleep on Friday followed by heavy farming and getting ahead of the market throughout the weekend to usually having most of my build done by the following weekend. At that point it’s usually stupid expensive multi-exalt upgrades left (Watcher’s Eyes, Timeless Jewels, etc). This is the same every season doing different builds now.

I would make a different build, but I really hate the Act 1-10 process all over again so I went from making 2-4 characters a league to only making one and if that fails I’m done.

I really wish they would do some sort of alternative leveling system where you’re a prisoner being forced to run maps for Zana’s father as an experiment. At certain level points you earn the extra skill points/respecs/books. At the end when you finish the same amount of maps as the game would normally put you through culminating in your “escape” after Kitava dies and you rejoin everyone.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Impressive. Yea, your approach is probably the best considering the current game climate. It will be interesting to see what’s coming with 4.0.

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we have the same routine. The last league I made a summoner I was bored to tears with so I didn’t bother playing the league any longer once I hit 60. This time I’m playing a poison build for the first time ever (Cobra Lash) and am enjoying myself again. I’ll take it as far as I can then quit.

Although I’m tempted to make a Delve only arc build… I’ve never gotten below level 250.

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Koshelkin

Diablo 3 is also a very good hack n slay, not at it’s launch state but when it moved toward Reaper of Souls the team had already made so many sensible changes that the game really did shine. The combat is just so solid and after the kinks got ironed out and Reaper of Souls provided an additional and *great* campaign the game was a blast to play. PoE feels stiff, slow and unpolished in comparison and I take the polished, more limited skillset(which still allows for some customization) over the myriad gems and the overblown skilltree of POE any day.

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Arktouros

My first reaction when I tried POE Beta was go back and play Diablo 3 for sure. I rejoined POE sometime around Abyss and things had gotten a lot better from what POE originally was.

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I hated PoE Beta and went to play Marvel. I tried PoE after about a year and then sincerely thought, “Jesus why the hell did I waste one second playing Marvel?”

I bought D3 during a sale when they released Reaper – I couldn’t be assed to bother finishing it’s awful, boring campaign – went back to PoE and haven’t looked back.

I find it superior in every way that matters to me. *shrug*

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Sorenthaz

Oh Diablo 2 Remastered is almost a given after Warcraft 3 Reforged and already remastering Starcraft. If you ask people what their favorite ARPG is a lot of the oldschool players will unanimously agree it was Diablo 2, and most of the modern ARPGs can’t scratch that itch in the same way that D2 did. Blizzard’s putting easy money to waste if they don’t remaster it after WC3.

Main issue I foresee with Diablo 4 though is that we’ll likely be getting a microtransaction store opening up for it, or they’re going to attempt to do some form of the RMAH again. Because at this point even Starcraft 2 has been getting regular DLC bits and what I think is like a Battle Pass each year? So I won’t be surprised if they try to do more piecemeal DLCs or sell cosmetic packs that normally would be season rewards.

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Arktouros

We’ll see what the monetization is but over all I’m not too concerned.

Things like loot boxes are usually pretty skippable and generally speaking season/battle passes are usually worth the cash in most games.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I’m pretty jaded about this. It’s been years since Blizzard developed a game and the major actors who did so have left. I’m afraid ActiBlizz is going down the Bioware/Bethesda path and it’ll be another attempt at a “live service” game. That is, poorly conceptualized, half completed, fully monetized and overpriced.

Activision has already pissed all over the Diablo IP with canceling D3’s expansion and then bankrolling Dimmortal.

One thing we can be sure of, however, is that D4 will have great graphics and super cinematics.

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Sorenthaz

Yeah, hard not to be jaded at this point. Guess we’ll see how much if anything is shown at Blizzcon.

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Danny Smith

I don’t doubt its real. But this is modern Actiblizzion so my suspicions about what the other shoe is are at an all time high.

I mean theres no way they are going have like a cash shop to sell cosmetic skins and lootboxes, right?

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rafael12104

Lol. Well, maybe not at first. You may have seen the news that they removed all the loot boxes from Modern Warfare this time around. And yet, I suspect they will ninja them in after the negative press has died down and the game is a bit removed from launch coverage.

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Sorenthaz

Yeah that’s the only real reason Diablo 3 seemed to fall on the backburner is because they didn’t have a way to keep getting revenue out of it. They’ve also shoved MTXes into Starcraft 2 to keep that going and every other game of theirs (minus the remasters) has some way to make money on a regular basis.

So my guess is Diablo 4 will probably have, at the very least, cosmetics and probably will put up more paywalls for future content releases. Maybe another form of the RMAH will return, who knows.

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Sparkle Pony Wings only $24.99!

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Sasha Alex

Hopefully the 4th game will have more than one expansion…
Hell, i even want them to sell new classes for D3 and i’m pissed off they don’t even do that anymore.

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Coldrun ??

Right?? That article about how the second D3 sequel was cancelled before RoS’s success was so frustrating! I love D3 so much, and while most of that sequel’s would-be content is probably in the game, it still feels like we missed out.

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seculaparsec

“I love D3 so much”

Do me a favor and never reproduce.

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Coldrun ??

Lol, that seems a bit disproportionate. Are you okay?

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Armsbend

One time purchase no bueno for ActiBlizz.

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Utakata

Diablo IV – only available on mobile, because don’t you guys have phones? o.O

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Diablo IV – The Real Money Auction House Cometh Part II

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IronSalamander8 .

That’s a good point. I had forgotten about that real money auction house in D3 as I beat the main story and only went back much later on when my friend who loves it wanted me to play again and it was removed.

This could be highly amusing to watch from afar.

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Blizzard isn’t just going to make a video game that people want to play. If it doesn’t have recurring money then they are not going to develop it.

I’m sure they are still sore about having their hand forced on the last game. Retool and then retry. Soft launch it then work it into the system.

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IronSalamander8 .

I have to concur with this. Actiblizz is on the back foot right now, between the Hong Kong problem, new CoD game MtX backlash, and other issues, but deep down they want to charge you for everything and as much as they can. Many other publishers do as well, but it’s about time people stop putting this particular company up on a pedestal.

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rafael12104

The Real Money Auction House, oh yes! Lest we forget that Blizz has made amazing blunders before. It is hard to believe that one though. Lol!

IMO, up to that point, Blizz was unassailable: solid games, good fan/customer support, responsible corporate citizen. D3 launches with that damn Real Money AH and they broke every single one of those tenents. And a year later, in walks Activision. Heh.

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Armsbend

I know they believe the blunder was with us not them. I know whatever they release at the con – it is going to entail trying to fuck us. How they will try to fuck us is up for grabs at them moment. But fuck us they shall.

It will hidden at first. EA with Star Wars Battlefront and the RMAH taught them this.

People seriously need to wake up, push the developers down and then start fucking them. Hard and relentlessly. But sexy too.

Too descriptive maybe. Anyway – stop giving them money. Publicly celebrating their failures. Mocking them at every opportunity. Demand they lower prices. Squeeze them at every turn.

People will stop working for them – I imagine they likely already have; the sheen of being a developer is surely gone. . It will force them to retool. Possibly it would further empower indies – which are really the only people making anything interesting at the moment. et cetera.

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camren_rooke

Bought two games on Steam over the weekend. Gris and Rise to Ruins.

EA and Blizzard whut?

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Bruno Brito

Don’t forget, Steam is part of the issue too.

A smaller part than these other companies, but Valve isn’t clean.

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Jesus if Valve were a public company they’d try to make money selling dirty bombs to school kids.

But you can tell Valve is really feeling the pressure from Epic. I hope Epic continues to tighten that noose.

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Bruno Brito

At least, i can say that Valve games aren’t p2w. They are predatory, but in a way that doesn’t really predate the player…exactly.

It’s more the Steam issue with devs and being a piece of shit company full of invasive process to make a buck. But neither Dota 2 nor TF2 are p2w games.

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Rodrigo Dias Costa

You forgot their second most recent game, Artifact…

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rafael12104

Sadly the myth that was old Blizz is shattered. And I don’t disagree with what you are saying in principle.

But the sticky bit is that gamers, (even me Lol) are partly responsible. IF they hit a home run with D4 then I’m back on the treadmill with thousands of others.

It’s the old EA syndrome. I finally stopped playing EA games, and yet I keep giving Bioware a chance…

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Armsbend

I’d play that home run if a year after release maybe. Once the referees checked everything out. I know they are going to find that Blizzard used a hollow bat.

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Eamil

People forget that Blizzard and Activision were both owned by Vivendi at the time. I know it’s easy to romanticize the earlier times, but the truth is Blizzard wasn’t some mega-indie, they’d been owned by a multinational corporation since 1998. Activision didn’t even buy out Blizzard, their parent company just did what they saw as merging their two games divisions together (Activision and Vivendi Games, which Blizzard was already a division of).

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rafael12104

It is a fair point. But from what I remember, and those earlier years are a little foggy with nostalgia and the innocence of youth, Blizz could do whatever they wanted back then. And with good reason too as money just kept coming down in like Niagra Falls.

Nevertheless, I’m not sure if the missteps started with the D3, but the first big one that I remember is that AH. A complete miscalculation. And the mistakes just kept coming after Activision was in the picture.

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Splitting one Starcraft 2 game into three games happened right around the same time.

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Raimo Kangasniemi

Vivendi, created as a water and sewage company by the emperor Napoleon III in 1853.

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Jaymes Buckman

Diablo 3 came out after Cataclysm, which I loved, but I still remember the hate it got. Blizzard was never unassailable, and that was a particularly pessimistic time for many Blizz fans.

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rafael12104

Oh, I remember that too. In fact, Cat was the last time I played WoW, so I understand what you were saying.

But even then I thought it was more of a matter of taste. They had bought a lot of goodwill with Warcraft I-III, Starcraft I-II, and Diablo I-II and WoW on top of that.

Yet, I agree with the post above. It is easy to romanticize those days as a golden era. And it might be that it seemed like they couldn’t do anything wrong. But those days were long gone by the time D3 hit the shelves.

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Bruno Brito

I wish that i had the testicular fortitude to roll back to yester-year, and look for your comment on the D4 rumour 2 days after the Blizzcon fiasco.

I believe it was in the lines of:

“Three days from now is Acti-Blizzard’s quarter report. Mark my words, they’ll say ANYTHING to not make this shitshow affect them as harshly as it WILL. This is a lie, yet they’re that desperate.”

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Armsbend

Sometimes I wish I had the time or desire to go really far back. Get some of my pre-Dereck Smart posts on Star Citizen. Right when it was nearing the 45-50M mark. Honestly, that event is what incensed me enough to find this site and make an account.

I hardly consider any of my Blizzard posts from last year prophesy. To me, they were as plain as the nose, a big one I might add, on my face. I knew they would immediately start putting out bullshit on D4. Know this: the game will be absolute trash.They never wanted to make the thing. They were practically forced. The talent levels is a shadow of it’s former self. This is going to be a turd wrapped in shiny, Korean studio brown paper graphics.

Terrible. Punish Blizzard for their sins against us. Mightily.

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Bruno Brito

I hardly consider any of my Blizzard posts from last year prophesy. To me, they were as plain as the nose, a big one I might add, on my face. I knew they would immediately start putting out bullshit on D4. Know this: the game will be absolute trash.They never wanted to make the thing. They were practically forced. The talent levels is a shadow of it’s former self. This is going to be a turd wrapped in shiny, Korean studio brown paper graphics.

This is a profecy, i think you’re half on point.

I’ll concur that the game will probably be lacking/mediocre. I don’t think it’ll be utter garbage. I don’t think Blizzard has the luxury of releasing garbage right now. D4 will come on the failure that D:I will be. So, they NEED to sell D4. Until then, they’ll need to stop their PR nightmares lest they finish antagonizing the rest of their playerbase.

What i know for sure is: D4 will be worse than D3. It’ll be a terrible launch, as always, and they won’t make the same profits as D3. It’ll tho, breathe some kind of borrowed time into Blizzard, and ( my turn to prophecize ) they’ll, in their utter syndrome of detachment, fail to learn ANYTHING from it, and have 3 infernal months with that game.

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Armsbend

Garbage in the sense it won’t live up to it’s potential I suppose.

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Sorenthaz

I really wouldn’t be surprised if it does return in some way. Blizzard doesn’t seem to care about their roster of games if they can’t get money out of it post-box price at this point.