A gamer was killed after witnessing a robbery whilst playing Pokemon Go

    
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No, not like this.

So, yes, let’s just open this story by acknowledging that this is horrible. Nobody wants to be murdered over a video game, but Cayla Campos (age 21) was killed just because she happened to be playing Pokemon Go with her boyfriend near Blanchetti Park in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The two of them witnessed a robbery happening just around midnight, and when attempting to depart the scene the assailants shot toward her vehicle multiple times, striking her in the back of the neck and leading to her death after she was rushed to the hospital.

The police do not have a suspect at this time, although they are looking for a vehicle connected to the case. Campos and her boyfriend had made the game a routine for some time, as their residence was nearby. Our sympathies extend to the families and friends of the victims – unfortunately, this is far from the first time such violence and deaths have affected gamers while out playing POGO.

Source: KRQE News via Kotaku. This article was amended after publication to remove a minor mention of a game update.

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Robert Mann

Sad. Violence remains a problem, usually driven by various factors from economics to cultural. I… would like to see those problems addressed, but I highly doubt that from nigh any government currently in this world that does not already have something in place.

*Caveat to said governments, the only solvent ones doing such things under any system are blessed with massive export trade surpluses, and with tourism wealth. Sadly, they all remain incredibly inefficient.*

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Bruno Brito

You won’t ever see a government official plagued by this issue. These people walk around in protected vehicles, they go to the same schools, the same universities, the same parties.

They have absolutely no idea what it is like living fearing for their lives or destitution.

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PanagiotisLial1

Sad news

Unfortunately a lot of this comes to how easily is to acquire guns in USA

No, the rest of the developed world has criminality too but most of the world doesnt have easy access to tools-for-mass-murder like guns are

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Armsbend

While what you say is true – it also makes us the most dangerous country on Earth to fight a war with. People here are practically born with a gun in their baby hands. So when the time comes to fight – our natural ability to shoot coupled with our extreme taste for blood and violence – makes for a formidable foe that is so far off the charts it makes it impenetrable.

Imagine breaching the shores of Virginia only to be met with an armed populace that was raised killing things and being desensitized to violence through media and actually killing. It is an impossible scenario – one never mentioned when discussing American bloodlust. The US is a pointed knife in a perfect Clauswitz sense.

Regardless of this fact – terribly sad this happened to this woman. A tragedy.

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Bruno Brito

Question: When was the last time America got into a war where they were invaded?

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Crowe

1943. (But it wasn’t the main continent)

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Bruno Brito

What place? Did having an armed population help? I’m genuinely curious.

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Crowe

I know links get messed up in here but when I googled it, the answer I got is here:
“The Japanese did invade and occupy the Aleutian Islands of Attu and Kiska, west of Alaska. The US eventually kicked them out but it wasn’t a pressing matter because these islands were fairly useless. But they retook them before upping the ante in the Pacific and really getting into the Pacific theater.

As far as I’m aware, the last time enemy troops occupied US soil was August 1943, this is when the US retook the island of Kiska from the Japanese.

Since then, no one else has attempted to invade the US. Of course, countries have drawn up plans for an invasion, but nobody wants to try it.”

It goes on to say the last time mainland USA was invaded was Pancho Villa in 1916. (obviously, they’ve totally forgotten Red Dawn in 1984 — go Wolverines!)

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Bruno Brito

Thanks, still don’t know if weaponry is legal there, but that’s the best answer i’ll get.

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Dragon Whimsy

That’s nonsense. America is a nuclear power. No one can invade it so having armed citizens is a moot point concerning that topic. America also has the most powerful military the world has ever seen several times over. Once again an invasion is impossible.

America doesn’t have a bloodlust problem. It has a “America’s politicians are bought and owned by the gun manufacturers” problem. Even among right wing voters the vast majority of people want common sense gun control laws. The left and right may disagree on how far they should go with those laws but almost everyone agrees we should have it to some extent. We won’t get those laws though because the politicians are legally bribed through donations.

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Mewmew

No, it doesn’t. As I stated below, I live in a one of the states where guns are the easiest to buy in the USA and everybody here can carry concealed weapons without a permit. It’s very very rare to know people here that don’t have guns. And homicides by guns here are just about unheard of (most gun deaths here are suicide, many years we have 0 gun homicides).

Would taking away the legally owned guns from law-abiding citizens stop this person from having a gun? Extremely unlikely. Even in countries with strict gun laws, criminals can still get them. This was at night, the time when the criminal guns would be brought out no matter the laws in the area.

Falkland Islands where most of the population owns guns has just about nothing for a crime rate (admittedly they are a very small country). Finland and Switzerland have high gun ownership and few problems like this. Canada has very high gun ownership as well without these issues. But yes let’s all blame guns because we don’t own them and don’t understand them. Just like the Politicians who love to blame games because they don’t play and understand them.

People who don’t understand love to think taking away guns would magically change everything. I actually do sort of hope it happens, so that they can get a wake up call about how little that ends up changing, and how some things become much worse (bombings instead of shootings for one).

It is a change that needs to happen with the people and the area, it’s much deeper than guns.

Anyway, as I also said, I’m all for them taking away all of the guns from people in the US. I just am realistic about how little it will actually change violence and things. There are other fixes that need to happen to actually have real changes take place.

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Armsbend

“Even in countries with strict gun laws, criminals can still get them.”

Not if you make their retail manufacture illegal as well.

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Robert Mann

That worked really well with Prohibition…

The technology is pretty simple at this point. Bombs are just as easy, the only reason they are less used is that guns are more readily available (bombs are the fastest growing weapon around the world, sadly). They don’t make so much news as shootings around the world yet, but they also average out being deadlier, and the materials used are far more difficult to ban.

What does work around the world, with various nations and crime, is a combined change of culture. That’s not just public, but also things like how prisons and criminal reforms work, what sort of economic woes the average person faces, etc. So there’s some hope there, although without the culture of the society itself changing it is only a partial improvement.

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Armsbend

There is a huge difference between Prohibition and the manufacture of guns. One you can make with household ingredients in the hills and one you need a manufacturing plant.

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Bruno Brito

You won’t get change in the prison system, healthcare system for better response, a better police and a diminuition in militarization if you don’t get a gun ban.

The reality is that it’s an entire cycle, that has to be brought down together. You can’t just half ass one solution, it won’t work. But gun companies profit like mad in the US, together with life insurance, pharmacy companies, private security companies, and for profit schools. These companies, all benefit from a low education, dangerous society of militarized policemen, scared citizens with access to murder machines ( because that’s what a gun is. Even a knife has tool utilities, but guns don’t ), and overall an stressful, uncertain life.

You then proceed to get a gun, get a life insurance, pay security, have debt in a foolish hope of your education paying that student debt ( haha ) and you end up addicted to legalized drugs because that’s what life in the US is. Not like Brazil is much different tho.

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Bryan Correll

Yeah, that’s why America has no problems with illicit drug use.

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Jeremy Barnes

They should attack the source of illegally owned guns…oh, wait..

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Bruno Brito

People who don’t understand love to think taking away guns would magically change everything. I actually do sort of hope it happens, so that they can get a wake up call about how little that ends up changing, and how some things become much worse (bombings instead of shootings for one).

It worked for Australia. I don’t know where you’re taking this from.

No one thinks taking guns out will solve everything. It won’t. It’s an process. Gun ban is a start for an entire process of de-militarization of your country, that goes through re-educating the police ( and making them responding for their wrong actions), diminishing military funding ( The US already spends more money on their military than the next 3 countries combined ), and better living conditions so people don’t feel drawn to a life of crime.

This isn’t the first time a gun owner came to me with that explanation, and this isn’t the first time i’ll give this answer: “I get your fear, but if your answer for fear is killing, then your nation is already lost.”

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Mikka Hansen

Title in USA: A gamer was killed after witnessing a robbery whilst playing Pokemon Go….

Title in the rest of the world: American killed in yet another incident caused by rampant gun control issues for the umpteenth time

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Marty Woods

Very sad . I’m just thankful I live in a country with sensible gun laws . Not that it stops gun crime from happening but it certainly makes it a lot rarer . Just 29 gun related homicides from March 2017 to March 2018 in a country of nearly 70 million.

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camren_rooke

Sure. But what happens when the King of England decides to invade?

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Marty Woods

Well if anyone ever did decide to invade a country with nuclear weapons ( which lets face it is unlikely ) then a untrained civilian population with guns is going to be about as useful a trained army with the latest military tech as a gnat . So that is an asinine argument to make . But its your country and its down to your citizens to decide when enough school children are dead because some lunatic goes in with an assault rifle .

I doubt William would want to invade anyway .

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camren_rooke

:D

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Bryan Correll

But what about George? We had some problems with a George before.

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Mewmew

I live in a US state with some of the laxest gun laws in the entire country. You can buy almost anything here quickly and everybody is allowed to carry concealed without a permit. It’s very rare to know people here who do not own guns. And it’s one of the safest states with almost no gun homicide ever (We have years with 0 gun homicides, most gun deaths that happen here are from suicide).

I really don’t care if they took all the guns away from everybody in the USA, but I also know that there is a lot more to it than just gun availability. They’re easy for people to blame who don’t understand them though.

Would she have lived if this guy didn’t have a gun? Probably. But it’s more than likely he’d still have a gun no matter what the gun laws were here. Other countries you go to visit and people run up to you with big machetes and stuff in the daytime in parks and just take your phones and things from you. Crime is more about the people there, poverty, etc, than the weapons available.

Why are some states in the US with the most lax gun laws and the most prevalent gun ownership the lowest in terms of actual gun violence? Because it’s not about the guns.

People like her, she would live if there weren’t guns here. Maybe that is enough of a reason to try to get rid of them (even countries with strict gun laws, the criminals still usually are able to get them though). But even if they could get rid of them all in some alternate reality, crime won’t stop, murders won’t stop, death and destruction won’t stop. It will just change to being done differently. Schools will have mass bombings instead of shootings. In a lot of ways, it could end up much worse.

Criminals that really want to will most likely still be able to get guns even if the general populace couldn’t. They could clean up and take away all the legally owned guns, but that could very easily cause far more problems than it solves.

You don’t understand it, so you just want to blame guns. Just like people who don’t understand games just want to blame games for things. But when the truth is that states with the most gun ownership and least restrictive gun laws have some of the least gun homicides out of the entire USA, you start to understand it’s more about the people in certain areas than the guns themselves.

Anybody who thinks you could pass gun laws and just clean them off the streets, yeah, nice dreaming. Would there be less professionally made guns available in 100 years? Probably. But we can already make most of a gun with a 3D printer. As technology evolves I imagine it will just be easier to do things such as that.

It may sound like I’m against gun laws, which really I am not. I just am looking around at what I see and being a realist. I could care less if they outlawed all private gun ownership in the USA later today.

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Marty Woods

Its your country and its down to you when you decide what your laws are .

As for safeness . Yeah we thought we were safe in Hungerford where I lived at the time ( I live about 20 miles outside of that area now which I am sure massively can confirm by checking my IP address ) . Small quiet picturesque English Town until 1987 and some farmer with a grudge and a shotgun killed 17 people .

I was there when that happened in a pub hiding under the bar so you could say I have a unique perspective on these matters . After that the government tightend up the gun laws and we now have the one of the lowest rates of fire arm deaths in any country in the world .

Before you ask whether I would have felt safer if we were armed . No not really the last thing I would have wanted was to be killed in friendly fire .

I’ve seen the end result of gun violence first hand so that is why I am glad I live in the UK with its stringent gun laws . The USA as far as I am concerned can do what it likes but I do get sad when I see yet another story about children being murdered while they are at school . Lets face it only a sociopath wouldn’t be moved by that and wouldn’t want things to change .

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Bruno Brito

I was there when that happened in a pub hiding under the bar so you could say I have a unique perspective on these matters . After that the government tightend up the gun laws and we now have the one of the lowest rates of fire arm deaths in any country in the world .

Jesus christ, dude. I hope you’re ok.

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Mordyjuice

delete this, was supposed to be a reply.

I see what happened, I replied to a comment that got deleted before I updated the page.

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Ernost

Not sure what the game has to do with this. Even had she been browsing reddit on her phone or taking taking selfies to post on instagram, the outcome would be the same yes?

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Mewmew

Yeah, she wasn’t walking out in some dangerous area to find rare Pokemon. She was in her car, near her house, in what was considered a safe family neighborhood. She was playing Pokemon Go though, and people will grab onto that as if the game made her go somewhere she shouldn’t and get killed. That’s not what happened.

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Not a lot else to say to this other than its utterly tragic and meaningless.

As an aside I hope some senator or whatnot doesn’t use the fact she was playing a game at the time she was killed as a misrepresentation to attack gaming again.

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Aaron Weddle

you can almost bet they will use this to condemn the evils of gaming

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Bruno Brito

Rest in peace, Cayla.

And i think this is a good opportunity to say something to Niantic: If your game is a proponent of walking in public with a cellphone in hand, do us a fucking favor and add warnings for police depts around, so people don’t go walking in dangerous areas.

Even better, add a emergency call functionality to the game.

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Bree Royce

Sad part is that park isn’t a dangerous area, or at least it wasn’t when I still lived nearby it. Presumably that’s why they felt safe to play there all the time.

We tweaked the article to remove the game update mention – as folks who’ve read our POGO coverage before know, we’ve covered deaths relating to POGO and combined such coverage before (like this one and this one), but clearly this one turned out to be more jarring, which wasn’t our intent.

The fastest way to get a response from editors with genuine concerns about stories continues to be tips. Mordy, I emailed you.

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Mordyjuice

Crap I’ve got figure out which email that was, I had to come up with an alternative one when we had our falling out over a year ago (honestly it’s stupid at this point, you’ve got to remember who I am at this point). Bruno is right though, timing was off and my humor is only appropriate in certain circles, you get desensitized to a lot of subjects in my line of work. I admit though I responded to the baiting with snark and I sure didn’t help the situation, can’t help my self sometimes I still have a lot of Troll in my DNA.

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Mordyjuice

Regardless I’m sure your email was chill, non confrontational, informative, probably hit on some of things I mentioned below.

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Bree Royce

Pretty much, you’re all good. (Email on your username here bounced btw!)

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Mordyjuice

Might want to try emailing that guy you thought was harassing staff in emails after getting angry at being modded after flaming back and forth, usually over commenting in Rift articles I honestly can’t remember if it’s been a year or two years (I know I was one of the guys that tipped you over the Path of Fire leaks).

Kind of feel like I’m playing with fire here because I am convinced you wanted me GONE back then.

I’m actually right near the top of the comments section there. You might recognize the cat.

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Bruno Brito

What cat? Not seeing anyone with a cat besides me.

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Mordyjuice

Bryanjturner, same Siamese cat.

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Bruno Brito

If i say i remember you, i would be lying. I remember the name, no interactions.

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Mordyjuice

You actually emailed me personally to try to stop me from blowing up regarding having my comments deleted, stuck with me because no one who comments here had ever actually emailed me for any reason.

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Bree Royce

Bruno is a good egg. <3

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Mordyjuice

He is. It’s funny Bree, everytime I tell my wife about a story I tip you guys she asks me why don’t you write for these guys, I don’t think she truly understands how awkward it would be for half of you in a conference situation after some of the interactions we had in comments sections years ago when we were literally having a pissing match on a daily basis. Then I usually get some lecture about acting like a troll, and I point out to her that I act the same way in real life it’s just delivery is better face to face, yadda yadda, I’m sure your husband gets it after a little bit you just feign defeat and let Mrs Wookie win before your arms get ripped off playing Holo Chess.

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Bree Royce

Wasn’t it Brasse who said nobody goes into games writing or community management who doesn’t a little troll streak in ’em somewhere? :D

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Mordyjuice

Haven’t seen that name in awhile.

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Bruno Brito

I’m flattered, but i’m not really that good, lol.

I put my beans above my rice, i clearly cannot be trusted.

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Bruno Brito

I did? Man, my memory is completely screwed, sorry.

I think it’s just bad habits, but i have an alzheimer’s history in my family, so sometimes i get a bit spooked.

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Mordyjuice

After working with people with dementia I don’t plan on sticking around if I get diagnosed, I may be half crazy with slightly agitated personality but I value my intelligence (one of the few qualities I have).

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Mewmew

It was right by her house. And she was in her car. It wasn’t a dangerous area, it was an area that was considered safe and a family area.

I love your kitty and all, but it might sometimes help to check the link to the more detailed news about an incident before assuming a bunch of stuff about what happened. Just a suggestion, in the end, you can say whatever you feel like.

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Bruno Brito

Not my point, kitty-sis. I get it that her death feels a bit unavoidable, but it still good to have safeguards implemented in a game that actively makes you walk outside.

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Mordyjuice

Other than a small handful of people that were offended by my post, I would like to respectfully request an explanation why it was completely removed as opposed to having the replies cleaned up?

I have posted far edgier comments that have been liked and commented on in a positive manner by staff members from Massively such as Bree for example.

There is no anger and malice in this comment, it would be polite to offer up an explanation.

The GIF in question was on topic because it had a Pokemon, as well as a Pokemon that happens to be a Homicide Detective.

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Bruno Brito

Bad timing, bro. Just offer condolences and move on.

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Mordyjuice

They all can’t be winners I guess, honestly though I think it was mainly to appease the other two people acting a bit more disruptive. That said the header image is a very funny unintentional meme though.

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Bruno Brito

I highly doubt that.

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Mordyjuice

Heh, your sense of humor gets rather skewed, dark, and inappropriate after working at a Hospital for awhile, most people would probably be appalled about what most Nursing Staff find amusing (but hey when a typical night involves being slammed with 10 admissions, naked fighting detoxicing homeless guys, at least one code blue, and lying to a few cancer patients that are terminal asking you if you think they’re going to beat it; you’re perspective on life gets very skewed).

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Bruno Brito

Yeah, but you’re doing for a good cause, so keep at it. It’s hard, but hang in there.

But really, i don’t think Bree nor anyone wants people to go rampant on these topics. Not even i do it, and i like to go rampant with a lot of them.

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Alex Hyer

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Michael Fuchs

You’re right. We should all stay inside once the sun sets. It’s clearly her fault and not the people that actually committed the robbery.

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Bruno Brito

You shouldn’t stop living your life because of fear. She wasn’t in the wrong.

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Marty Woods

I find that a weird comment in that you seem to think its normal for people to be under threat after the sun goes down .

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Bryan Correll

Don’t you know about all the vampires out there?