New World resumes closed alpha testing with NDA, teases new dev vlog

    
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We’re expecting another big day for Amazon’s New World today.

First, the MMO has gone back into private player testing after many months dormant. “We have resumed Closed Alpha testing,” AGS announced last night. “We will be inviting old and new players in waves during Alpha and Beta.” Signups are still open on the official site; just be warned that there is an NDA in place – at least until closed beta. And just being in the old alpha – the one that was suspended last year for the big PvP/PvE revamp – “does not guarantee you access to the new one,” though apparently you don’t actually need to reapply. Preordering won’t improve your chances either.

Later today – we’re guessing late this afternoon, if the last one was any guide – the team will be dropping the next installment of its dev vlogs, this one on the factions in the game world. A brief teaser video was posted last night.

Source: Twitter

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Toy Clown

I have some hype for the game since they did away with the FFA PvP system. The game is gorgeous and I enjoy gleaning bits and pieces from the videos.

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Random MMO fan

Oh boy… Just wait until you see how ugly the house interiors are in this game. Compared to FFXIV it is like playing a game from early 2000’s. And there are no gardens in your house which you can use to grow some fun stuff. There are also no stables, no training dummies and you do not even own unique house, you own an instance of it which may be already owned by someone else so there is no way to make your house look unique from outside to a stranger running by.

The characters are also pretty ugly, same goes for most monsters in world. The only thing that looks more or less attractive in current test build are the plants and trees.

Do not get yourself too hyped about this thing and you will not have a huge disappointment after you will play it ;-)

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Random MMO fan

Hopefully I am allowed to say this, I have actually played it in this new alpha wave. The game is bad. Really bad. Even from PvE point of view – if you enjoy very basic crafting and collection of crafting items it might be ok for you. But then if you enjoy this – you should just play ESO, or FFXIV, or LOTRO or any existing MMORPG which has basic crafting and resource gathering.

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Crowe

You signed a NDA, you should know what you can say… right?
I haven’t seen this NDA but I was part of the previous Alpha and you couldn’t say anything good/bad about it except on the closed testing forums.

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Ironwu

Hmmm. Hyping your game to the nines? Yet afraid to let the people that are experiencing it actually talk about it?

Sorry, Amazon, this sort of thing just guarantees that I will not be purchasing this title in advance of some real gameplay videos and reviews.

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Arktouros

I believe there will be another beta in April that will be for all pre-purchasers of the game and then they will have lots visible at that time.

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Barnoc N'Draak

I will not be purchasing this title in advance of some real gameplay videos and reviews.

Better yet, don’t purchase it until it’s a complete shipped product. Or a week or two after release even so you can skip the inevitable launch problems!

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Ironwu

That is what I meant by ‘real’. Information from the fully RELEASED game. :)

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Barnoc N'Draak

I’m becoming cautiously optimistic that this might result in something I would want to play.

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Arktouros

Hearing nothing but terrible things and the feedback forums are all just everyone complaining about PvP in every direction (still too much, now too little, etc).

Not even going to bother installing. Dead game.

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Schmidt.Capela

and the feedback forums are all just everyone complaining about PvP in every direction (still too much, now too little, etc).

It’s why you should never try to use the same PvP rules for both PvE players and PvP players; if you try to please one side you drive away the other, and if you try to reach a compromise then it becomes unpalatable for the majority of players. After all, why should I settle for a compromise when I can find other games where the rules are tailored to the kind of gameplay I prefer?

If you want both PvP and PvE players in the same game, make different servers with different rules.

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Arktouros

If you want both PvP and PvE players in the same game, make different servers with different rules.

Even designing PvE and PvP servers is a half measure. The PvE players will be upset that you’re not catering to their PvE content needs if you focus on PvP server and systems. The PvP players will be upset that you’re not catering to the PvP content needs (game balance, siege mechanics, etc) if you focus on PvE server and systems. In my experience most games just end up focusing on PvE under the wrong and false assumption PvP players will create their own content and don’t require any attention then wonder why their PvP server populations are non existent why was there even two rulesets clearly no one likes PvP (lol).

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Random MMO fan

if you try to please one side you drive away the other, and if you try to reach a compromise then it becomes unpalatable for the majority of players

You can make PvP and PvE people happy. All you need is adopt EVE design and rule set, just make a small correction to it where PvP cannot be forced onto you if you are living in the middle highsec space (which cannot be taken over by any player corporation) and if your player corporation is not at war with any other player corporation. That’s it – you gave perfect safety for PvE people who want to live in that specific region and you still let PvP people wage wars in lawless space with no restrictions.

The issue is not “PvE and PvP balancing”, the issue is that Amazon has very stupid developers and very stupid management who controls Amazon Games.

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Schmidt.Capela

That wouldn’t work, because it would result in a game where PvPers have access to more of the game world/universe, including places designed to be more rewarding for PvE activities to “compensate” for the chance of PvP happening. If you are a PvE player, why even bother with a game that treats you as a second-class gamer when you can instead jump to one that treats you as its main audience?

The system you proposed isn’t novel, mind. It’s basically what Ultima Online was left with after Trammel, and as such was already in place — and, thus, known to any marginally competent MMO dev — before most of the “classical” MMOs were even released.

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Random MMO fan

You really do not know how EVE works, do you? You can craft almost anything needed in high-sec zones (except some huge ships which are not allowed in high sec areas), out of resources that are either available for gathering in those zones or out of more rare resources which other people will bring for sale into high sec zone. You can grind NPCs and do NPC faction quests in high sec zone in EVE.

Even if you do not like PvP – you CAN live in safety in lawless zones, if you are a member of large corporation – they will protect you no matter what you do, such as mining or crafting certain structures or transporting resources to trade hub in high sec space.

New World could be just like that – you can do all quests and dungeons in safe areas (Amazon just needs to make PvP completely optional in those areas) and also do most of crafting for items there and rely on other people who will bring you rare materials out of lawless zones. And let PvP players battle over control of lawless zones. How is this “treating you as a second-class gamer”?

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Gevatter

Why shouldn’t it work? Just give PvE players their own special access to interesting and useful PvE-places.

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Jon Wax

I wouldn’t say stupid but devs seem lazy in that they aren’t trying to think beyond what’s outside their window

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Jon Wax

Or take a few days to come up with a design that works?

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Pepperzine

Considering the major overhaul drastically altered PvP, it’s expected that complaints at this time would be regarding that until it all settles.