The Daily Grind: Which MMO has the most toxic fan-based defense force?

    
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Every single MMO has its own unwanted and unnecessary defense force. We could run a story tomorrow about Final Fantasy XIV selling your credit card information to the yakuza or The Elder Scrolls Online’s latest patch literally melting your hard drive, and there would be people willing to claim in the comments that maybe the yakuza should have your credit card, or hard drives are better when melted. So it goes.

But then there are the games whose defense force isn’t just confined to defending the game in question but relishes in pushing down every other title.

You know exactly the sort of person, the vocal Star Citizen fan who shows up in threads about any other related game (or wholly unrelated game) to shout about how this game is dumb and Star Citizen is better. Or the World of Warcraft fan quick to tell you that your chosen game is hot garbage compared to WoW regardless of whether or not that bears any relation to objective reality (like people arguing straight-faced that WoW has deeper crafting mechanics than EverQuest II). So which MMO has the most toxic fan-based defense force? People not just focused on defending the game but going out of their way to denigrate other titles?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!
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Amorey

#BeKind

#BeKindOnline

#BeKindAlways

We can have opposite views but there is no need to be toxic, in gaming or anywhere else really :)

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camren_rooke

That sounds like hippie talk!

Here!

Have a Like!

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Amorey

Have a *hug* :)

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Mewmew

To the people who are always calling me one: See, that’s ^ what an actual carebear is. :P

(No offense intended, I’m not using it as a derogatory word here as people often try to do in gaming. The world would be so much better if we all really were real carebears).

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camren_rooke

We are CARE-BEARS not SCARE-BEARS!

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IronSalamander8 .

Can we clone you? Or at least make this attitude more prevalent than it is now?

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Sleepy
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Utakata

I feel your safe space are reaching all the way to the pigtails on this end of the internet. And from where I and they sit, I think that’s a very good thing. <3

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Random MMO fan

“Be Kind”? Oh please, this is a blog where if you have a different gameplay preference you will be labeled as “basement-dwelling sociopath” by people who do not like your gameplay preference ;-)

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Ixchel Shadoweater

Other’s opinion about oneself is no one’s business but theirs. Self validate. Don’t give the disordered more ammo.

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Hikari Kenzaki

Obviously, this isn’t unique to one game or a dozen. People feel a disproportionate need to defend Thing A they’ve chosen over Thing B. Could be a game, a political candidate, an airline, a brand of peanut butter, or any number of things.

No person is truly objective and once you invest enough emotional resources into a thing, it becomes harder to distance yourself from that thing.

I used to be a play one and only one game type of person. Then that game was tragically and violently taken away. The level of anger and resentment I felt toward that publisher was something I would declare on the mountain top for years to come because I hadn’t been able to make the choice to leave on my own.

I bumped around to a few other games and found one that was better than most and invested in that, but I didn’t mind dabbling in others. Still, I’d say I was more defensive of said game than most.

It wasn’t until I started playing dozens of games that I found it easier to objective, but I still have bias that is going to come out. I just don’t go out of my way to assault the fans of games I don’t enjoy like we see here (and everywhere) at times.

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Witches

I choose you SWG fans!

If SWG was alive it would be owned by Daybreak, i repeat, DAYBREAK, (now that i think about it it would probably be owned by a substudio called Deathstar Games).

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Ailsa Nordstrom

Awww, I loved SWG but the only game I would denigrate is, well, SWG after the atrocious changes they made to it (RIP Creature Handler and Ranger).

Oh, and Shroud of the Avatar because it’s an empty shell of what it was supposed to be and it kind of deserves it. Sad because the Ultima games were my first introduction to computer gaming and I did enjoy other Garriot games.

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Star Citizen is definitely one of the worst one when it comes to defenders. Then there are WoW Classic players and ESO players and some other games.

I would not say FFXIV players have a lot of defenders – if you will go to Reddit there are plenty of them who know how bad the game’s design is with huge amount of fluff quests in original game or the fact that you are forced to queue up for dungeons in order to progress the main story – this is one of the worst things in game design especially for a story-driven game. GW2 also has plenty of people who criticize it, same goes for EVE Online, BDO and others.

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Celestia

There’s a certain strain of folks who get their self worth all tangled up in whatever they enjoy no matter the activity. They’re deeply competitive, long for tribal security, and are desperate for any “win” no matter the venue. Any loss, real or imagined, is perceived as a personal attack that must be vigorously defended to the bitterest of ends. It doesn’t matter if they’re fans of a video game, a sport, a product or a political party. The results are always the same.

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Fang GWJ

There has got to be 2 “winners”.
One that is percentage based and WoW just for sheer volume regardless of percentage.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Here’s a really great video about a lot of things, but especially about the impact that media comments by fans (on Twitch streams and the like) can have. This channel has 120,00 subscribers, but this video has nearly 270,000 views.

As an aside, I never watched Asmongold when he was streaming but have found his Zack YouTube postings to be quite insightful and interesting.

My reaction to this is that it ought to be required watching before anyone is allowed to post comments anywhere on any public platform.

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Random MMO fan

Asmon is a good dude. Really miss his WoW streams where he did fun stuff like trying to raid Org or some other area. This is the only WoW streamer I could tolerate watching. Too bad he does not stream anymore.

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styopa

Star Citizen, absolutely. They PAID for that privilege.

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Sleepy

As regards having an actual defense force, you have to admit the usual suspects always turn up for Star Citizen posts, and are never seen outside them.

I always picture Mr Burns saying “Release the hounds!”

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Utakata

There’s a couple of regulars who I beg to differ on that with, as they show up at other topics and crusades. :(

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Immoral

Destiny 2 has some of the worst fanboys ever. I think the seasons system has been mediocre and I haven’t played since clearing Shadowkeep. Fallout 76 is a game with a vocal group of fanboys that shun anyone with reasonable criticism.

Both of these pale in comparison to the toxicity of Overwatch though. I think it even surpasses DOTA 2 as the most toxic community per capita.

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Kawaii Five-O

Overwatch was so chill to play during open beta and when it first came out, but boy, did it go south fast. Really a shame.

Worst community I’ve ever experienced by far, though, was TERA–and that was before it went F2P.

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rosieposie

Retail WoW, because it is indefensible yet they try.

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K8 D

No they dont lol. They only defend what they like as opposed to classic systems. The majority dont defend the current game, and many have good feedback/points on whats wrong with it. Its a very small minority of people who actually defend retail without someone making a classic comparison. Likewise, the classic playerbase is the same in that only a small handful are arrogant in defending classic when it has more than its fair share of trash systems.