Camelot Unchained’s Mark Jacobs discusses the new island and testing a ‘slice’ of the game

    
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Camelot Unchained’s Mark Jacobs discusses the new island and testing a ‘slice’ of the game

Camelot Unchained’s Mark Jacobs has once again taken to a livestream to discuss with fans about the latest island scenario that’s in testing as well as share the Top Ten-ish list for the week.

The discussion of the new island scenario was mostly focused on the difference between it and the Cherry Keep siege. While there are siege mechanics in the new build, with players commanding trebuchets to take down several buildings, there are other features such as the Devout classes and the warband group type. “What you’re going to be testing is a slice of Camelot Unchained,” explains Jacobs.

The video then moves onward to the Top Ten-ish, which talks about continued work on pathfinding tech, work on a new scenario map UI, a variety of development work regarding keeps and related scenarios, iteration on the warband group type, applying art assets to Soul Essence Shards, and further work on the Devout classes.

The majority of the video at the end was a Q&A session, including one point where Jacobs had to put down an angry little troll live, so that was fun to watch. The entire hour and 40-odd minutes is embedded below.

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Bruno Brito

We could have this game one hour and 40 minutes faster.

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Relmharver

I wonder how many backers are still interested enough in CU to sit through an hour and 40 minute video. Maybe there’s still a lot more interest in the game than I would guess. I also wonder why Mark Jacobs continues to pursue the least efficient method of disseminating information.

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Paragon Lost

He also does have weekly emails which have a lot of information that is easy to read in the layout. Basically, you have what works for you information wide. Reading or Youtube, I can’t see that as a bad thing. I personally prefer to to just read the weekly emails, but thats me. 😉

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Gevatter

I wonder how many backers are still interested enough in CU to sit through an hour and 40 minute video.

Usually I watch until the first few minutes of the obligatory Q&A session … sometimes even longer *iff* the questions are new&interesting.

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Matthew Riddle

So which game is coming out first, Camelot Unchained or Star Citizen?

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Oleg Chebeneev

Star Citizen. Since it is actually coming out eventually

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Bruno Brito

Ok, that was funny.

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Buddy Barlow

Oleg, i mean as a SC supporter you guys don’t have much of a leg to stand on when comparing to CU also.

You guys are both in the “will it ever release boat” but i mean at least you can log into your game! I’ll give ya that but let’s be honest..the way SC continues to take money from people and the way it seems that making ships to sell for money is a bit of a crooked business practice that they should stop and just work on getting the game out.

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Oleg Chebeneev

Ship sales bring money that they use to develop game. And they deliver clear progress every year. I mean, few years ago we didnt have Hurston, Arkcorp and Microtech. Now these 3 planets are here and they all look great.

So why exactly they should stop making ships that fund game development and expand variety of available ships in game?

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Dankey Kang

I would argue SC since I’ve actually seen real footage of that game and therefore can confirm that it is a thing that actually exists.

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Jo Watt

True. The fact you can log in and play the game to some degree provides more “believability” that it is indeed a functioning product. Doesnt matter if it is in any way optimized, stable or a “good” game.

However. All I’ve ever seen of CU were really old footage of some type of game play. And then it’s always some guys talking on a couch with a nice plant behind them. I get the not wanting to show work in progress but rarely showing anything at all is not good. After a while it begins to feel like it’s just all wishes and dreams in these guys heads.

I keep saying I hope it works out well. But after so many years of saying it… you kind of just want to see some form of sneak peak at least. Most people can only hear “Dont worry guys, i make game, for real not kidding, its got.. really cool features I promise” so many times before they want to see something to back it up or just straight up lose interest all together.

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Gevatter

All I’ve ever seen of CU were really old footage of some type of game play.

As Beta-Tester I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe.

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Jo Watt

Right. That proves my point. Until people can actually see anything instead of words it is in fact hard to believe.

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Gevatter

You sound like those science deniers who insist that what they personally have not seen does not exist. PPL are free to buy the cheapest backer tier for 30 bucks and participate in some tests once in a while.

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Jo Watt

So.. like a cult. I gotta pay to see the Prophet perform miracles, “sometimes”.

But all seriousness the point is that a few things could be shown and I probably would spend the $30 as I have with a few in development games that have shown me more then words and promises.

Mark Jacob’s I know cares a lot about this project and I know because I have seen him post and reply to so many people. Which is great but I still need to see something worth putting money behind a project and I personally haven’t seen that yet.

I hope to see it soon and then I’ll drop some money and lash out at the haters too.

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Gevatter

The thing is, they aren’t ready yet to show something … non-backers aren’t entitled to be kept up to date on their development process nor have they any right to be ‘spoon-feed’ with work-in-progress content. Those massivelyop-articles are mere ‘still working on CU’ updates.

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Jo Watt

Yes I know. They have used that excuse for many years at this point. And I said I understand that. But how can you expect anyone to be interested in backing your project if you never show anything after all this time. It seems you are missing that point. I never said I needed to be kept up to date on everything in fact I dont want to be. Simply shown something worth backing would be nice.

Until they are comfortable with showing something, I look at it as, I’m comfortable with keeping my money until I see something worth and just view their words as nothing but dreams.

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Gevatter

It seems to me that you are missing the point → they don’t expect anyone to be interested in backing their project, and thus they don’t have to show any content … they are good with being ‘not forgotten’; they don’t want nor need fresh backer-money at the moment.

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Jo Watt

Uh what. Are you trying to defend them or make them look bad. Its confusing. They are developing an mmo but they dont want to draw any interest, dont expect people to be interested and just want to lurk in the shadows.

That actually makes me less interested overall.

And just to point out nothing was mentioned about them needing fresh backers or money. Which doesnt matter if they need it or not. It was never a topic to begin with so why mention it.

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Gevatter

They are developing an mmo but they dont want to draw any interest, dont expect people to be interested and just want to lurk in the shadows.

That’s right. For now. They’ll start to hype their game when the time is right.

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Relmharver

This has got to be one of the biggest lines of bullshit I’ve ever read in a gaming forum. “They don’t want nor need fresh backer-money at the moment.” Ha! Who told you that, and why did you believe them?

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Gevatter

Apparently it is not clear to some, thus I will put it in simple terms: CSE doesn’t actively advertise for new backers; if someone decides to join anyway, he or she will of course be welcomed.

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Relmharver

Ohhhh, so CSE, which has recently admitted to needing to make a second game to obtain funding because they were running out of CU funds, doesn’t want to attract new backers. They simply don’t want any more money from backers at this time. This makes perfect sense. You probably also believe that the development of the second game is going to speed up development of CU.

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Gevatter

If you could make sense of what you read, you would know that Ragnarok (1) is paid entirely by investors — NOT backers! — and does not touch the CU budget, and (2) is a “simple” total-conversion of CU and thus requires far fewer resources than a completely new game. By the way, the remaining Ragnarok money is used for CU’s development. And also, because of the shared code-base, bugfixes are also counting ‘towards’ CU (and vice versa) and thus helping the development.

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Relmharver

OK. And they didn’t desperately need revenue from a successful Ragnarok to continue CU development, right? Anyone with their eyes open can see that CSE is hurting for funding. Boy, do they have you hoodwinked. Most of us learned not to trust them when they 1) blew their projected dates by YEARS and have now simply given up on even trying to guess when things will come out and 2) started working on a second game that no one asked for before completing the first game they had promised (again, out of desperation for funds). With that, I’m out. You keep the dream alive. Someone has to.

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Gevatter

And they didn’t desperately need revenue from a successful Ragnarok to continue CU development, right?

No, they didn’t. Ragnarok is a project that has emerged from an opportunity. And MJ would be a bad businessman if he hadn’t seized this opportunity.

Anyone with their eyes open can see that CSE is hurting for funding.

And exactly for this reason it is tedious to discuss with haters; either they refuse to see things that happen right in front of their eyes, or they imagine seeing things that do not exist. Either way, evidence is for haters not the basis for a discussion.

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Covynant001

If Ragnarok fails, CU will never see a proper release, you heard it here first.