A few months ago, there was a post on the MMORPG subreddit about the MMO that was the “most intense brutal hardcore” MMO – the most “unforgiving by design.” Most of the responses zeroed in on PvP MMORPGs, the more free-for-all, the better. Full-loot MMOs factored in the discussion heavily too.
But there were several mentions of PvE MMOs too, including original-flavor EverQuest and Dungeons and Dragons Online, whose hardcore league literally includes permadeath character building that makes merely losing your gear seem easy to recover from.
What MMO is the most hardcore and brutal? Do you think the most hardcore and brutal PvE MMOs compare to the most hardcore and brutal PvP MMOs?