Fallout 76 procrastinates on text chat, promises looking for group system

    
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While it’s fun to go solo through the wasteland in Fallout 76, sometimes it feels a little too isolated and lonely — especially for an online game where other players are sharing the same map. The social infrastructure of the game is still one of its weakest elements, a problem which Bethesda is handling haphazardly.

On one hand, the studio admits that while it thought about adding text chat — a feature which players “request often” — it’s not a priority for this year. On the other hand, this summer’s quality-of-life update will include “teams” that will function as sort of LFG system. “Team Leaders will appear on the paper map and teams will be further incentivized with group buffs to play events, dungeons, and explore together,” Bethesda explained in this week’s Inside the Vault.

The studio posted a few mildly interesting statistics from its Wastelanders release, saying that 54% of players decided to side with the settlers over the raiders, Crater is the “most nuked settlement,” and Commander Daguerre is the most common ally used in C.A.M.P.S.

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So every MMO people bitch and moan about the quality of General Chat – WoW, ESO, etc., and the asshats that dominate it with their crap talk, and Bethesa chose to not add it, they’re wrong?

Maybe Bethesda is being thoughtful about adding it, so you crap on them?

If people acted like adults instead of whiny shits in a game it might be different. But just the area VC in FO76 is bad enough (and I don’t use WoW’s VC as who wants to listen to trade chat come to life!).

Text chat for people you want to group with or are grouped with or friends that would be fine or confined to specific area chat – but then people will complain about not having global chat so they can bore everyone with their opinions.

Most people use Discord (which can translate text to voice for those hearing impaired) and you can mute people. But I honestly don’t want to listen to or read everyone’s opinion on everything because they have a captive audience in a game.

If they add it great. Haven’t missed it or the abuse. I will say except when face to face with someone – a whisper/tell option would be nice. Emotes don’t always cut it then.

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Random MMO fan

So every MMO people bitch and moan about the quality of General Chat

I don’t and never did, the active general chat is part of the reason I like playing MMORPG games (another part is visible player characters outside of dungeons in an open world or in large cities). If I read something which I did not like – I could always block that person in every MMORPG game I played. A bad MMORPG is not the one that has general chat but the one that does not allow you to filter it… Or the one that has no global chat of any kind ;-)

If people acted like adults instead of whiny shits

Oh the irony ;-)

Most people use Discord

Please tell me how can I tell a random person I meet in Fallout 76 to join my Discord if I or that person does not have voice chat enabled or cannot use voice chat for many reasons? Which in-game emote should I use to tell that person to add “RandomFallout76player#3747” to that person’s friends list? ;-)

P.S: This blog’s comments never cease to amuse me with amount of selfish and narrow-minded people ;-)

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Bruno Brito

Hi, Lethality.

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rafael12104

Procrastinate? You are being kind. That was a friendly but hard: “No. It’s not even our fucking list, so no.”

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NecroFox4

Did you even read what BethSoft said about it?

They want to add it, but it won’t be this year that they do.

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rafael12104

I did. They said that back when the game launched too. Now granted there was a lot to do, so I’ll buy that. But I think that a chat system is by it’s nature is a security risk they won’t take.

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Zero_1_Zerum

’76 still sounds like a lot people who don’t know how to make a Bethesda Fallout game got together with a lot of people who don’t know how to make an MMO and decided to call themselves game devs.

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Ironwu

It’s amazing that they would even consider releasing a modern ‘MMO’ without a text chat system. Not everyone is able to use voice. Hell, some players may not even HAVE a voice to use!

And a LFG system? Why? What is there to group for? Who is there really to group with?

I think these announcements are just for the purpose of fooling people into thinking this game has even the remotest chance of recovering from the still raging dumpster fire that is F76.

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Sorenthaz

Well at least the finally said something about text chat…

Text chat is something we see requested often, we looked at implementing it early in development. Currently this year we have a number of other quality of life improvements we’re tackling. As a PC player, I too would like to get text chat implemented in the future.

Pretty much is a weak copout answer though to basically say “well we thought about it, but we got other things we’d rather focus on right now. Sure would be nice if we got it in the game some day though.”

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_DeathCasterxd1

I actually wouldve sided with the settlers but the raiders have a ammo machine blueprint when you reach max affinity.

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Viciouz

But you can do both, just do the main wastelanders story on both sides until you have to choose. Try to be as neutral as possible, not killing members on either side. Then do dailies on both sides.

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Raidervc

Going to play devil’s advocate here, but considering how easily exploited Fallout 76 seems to be, bugs/hacks/etc, would introducing an in game chat system potentially open up an entirely new way for people to break the game?

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Sorenthaz

Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s part of it. Other challenges would be figuring out how to actually make it look good in the game and whether or not to have multiple channels + proximity text chat.

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Random MMO fan

No, this is not how text chat works. And it doesn’t really matter, there are still third-party programs which allow you to do anything in this game from teleporting to seeing location of any object in game at any distance including players or things like clipping through walls or sending damage to any NPC (this allows you to kill anyone without using ammo) or looting NPCs and their containers (this allows you to do thing like quickly loot secret service plans from a vendor who trades those). People use these because Bethesda does not care to detect them, you can quickly find forums where people discuss them.

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Dug From The Earth

So there are 2 types of developers/programmers

Ones that can create programs/applications/etc from scratch, and ones that only know how to edit, tweak and modify an existing program/application/etc.

Im convinced that the core of Bethesda’s development team is the second group. A team of dedicated workers that lacks the ability to do more than make edits and tweaks to existing code. Its most likely why they are still using an engine that was designed over 15 years ago, with bugs they cant seem to get rid of (yes, bugs from games 15 years ago, are still in their newest games).

Why would Bethesda run their current business like this? Thats easy. Money. It costs them a lot less money to employ programmers who arent as skilled (not saying they arent hard and dedicated workers). It also saves money by not investing time and resources into developing new assets (ie: creating a new and better game engine)

Bethesda has been riding on the coat tails of development work that was done 15+ years ago, and now, as the fabric is barely able to hold together, they are suddenly at a point where it simply cant be done anymore.

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Sorenthaz

That’s a weirdly ominous arm-wave over the development of this game considering the many improvements, systems, and features that were added to the game that weren’t in Fallout 4/Skyrim.

But yeah let’s just dismiss them all as simply edits/modifications/tweaks.

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Dug From The Earth

Yes, lets just dismiss it… sorta like Bethesda has been dismissing all the issues their games have had for ages that are still issues.

Bethesda themselves have said that they just continue to modify and tweak the engine to add stuff.

Their games would have bombed big time dating all the way back to ES3 had they not completely opened it up to modding. Modders have continually picked up the slack where the Bethesda devs dropped the ball. Im not even talking about bonus modded content. Im talking about HUGE modding projects that fix huge lists of bugs, glitches, typos, broken models, effects, scripting, crashes, stuttering, memory problems, etc etc.

Stuff that continues to be in each new game they release.

And lets talk about Improvements. People cant seem to view things in perspective.

If you are in a room, full of cow dung, without any clothes on, in 30F temperature, and suddenly someone opens the door and tosses you a jacket… Do you say “Huge improvement! thanks” ??? Anything in this situation is most likely going to be an improvement. Why? Because the situation is so bad that it can only really get better.

You know what type of improvements I like in my games I play? Ones where the game is ALREADY a good game, and they do something above and beyond to make it even BETTER. Its not a situation of making a game suck a little less, its a matter of making a game be even MORE awesome than it already was.

And then there is this notion of “I take what I have and make the best of it” I grew up in a very poor family. When I was young, my toy gun was a stick. Whatever stick I could pick up that I could pretend was a rifle. I made it work, and it allowed me to run around and play “army” with my friends, and we enjoyed it. But I wasnt fooled into thinking my stick was a good toy. I was simply making the best of what little I had…. Again, I like my games that dont require ME to make the effort of having to make the best of the little I have. A game should deliever more than that. It shouldnt be up to ME to create the fun and enjoyment. Thats not what I am paying for.

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Hikari Kenzaki

Bethesda is the best example that mods are both good and bad. They have spent years turning out games that players can change to their heart’s content.

Of course, some point very early on, they realized that they could just release anything and their fans would turn around and fix it for them.

Somehow, they forgot this and made F76 an online PvP game… the one place you DON’T want your players to be able to mess with everything.