New World dives into the mechanics of its factional PvP warfare

    
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Loko otu belwo

War! Huh! Good God, y’all, what is it good for? Capturing the other faction’s territory in New World, it seems. While last week we were graced with a video about war that made some… claims, perhaps some ill-informed ones, the new development entry on the official site just discusses the mechanics of invading and capturing an enemy territory. Once a territory is sufficiently weakened, one faction gets to lead the war effort, and participants from the company within said faction get to fill up the attacking side with possible volunteers from other companies or even the game’s third faction.

The defender gets to select the time window for the defense, at which point a 50v50 battle breaks out for control of the main fortress. Attacking forces work to capture rally points, break down the gates, and capture the heart of the fortifications, while defenders… well, try to stop that, obviously. You can check out the fine details as well as the various siege weapons available to attackers and defenders in the full development entry. So that’s another thing war is, apparently, quite good for.

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Ben Stone

Every time I see new information on New World, I think to myself – who actually thought this was a good idea?

Its got a big budget, so surely they are market testing this, but I just don’t get it. The theme, systems and everything just seems like a mess.

I suspect this will launch, bomb, then be reborn with significant changes. Who knows, maybe it will work, I won’t be an early adopter though.

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Random MMO fan

I just love the sentence they have in their text:

If you have been selected to participate in a War, congratulations!

It’s like they wanted to add another one, with “if you haven’t been selected for the current battleground – sucks to be you, wait for another one on some future day where you may not be able to participate because you were not selected or because it may not fit your schedule”, but then they stopped before doing this because they know that telling the truth is not good for preorders ;-)

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7thRankedNoob

Ugh … why is there a 4 barrel gatling-like canon thing? … They might as well give everyone jet packs too. Hate it when games make semi fantasy settings and then add 20th century and futuristic trappings etc.

I thought this was going to be more Incan inspired with some dark sorcery thrown in.

pass.

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Arktouros

This is what we were trying to tell everyone for like a year there as they brought up the spectre of conquest of the new world and slavery and exploitation and it’s like…yea no, not really lol…whole thing players pretty lose with the setting from magic to zombies to technology employed.

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Random MMO fan

Remember when angry journalists were writing articles like “OMG, this game is about exploiting the native population!” without actually playing it? ;-)

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Jeromai _

So, given that most players very much like attacking over defending, what’s going to stop the game from reaching one of two unhappy equilibrium states?

1) PvPers decide to trade territories, making much less effort at defending (or just suffering lower attendance) and keep attacking each other, so that they can get their “good fights” in. They’re not PvErs, why should they care about the settlements? Meanwhile, the PvE folks get wrecked by the tennis-balling territories and get turned off from the game.

2) One guild winds up stronger than the rest, attracting bandwagoners. Now they win both attacking and defending fights and annex all the territories into a joint static empire… while PvPers complain about imbalance and inability to have equal fights and that attacking an immovable object is no fun at all.

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Arktouros

People were already engineering fake fights to trade/bypass territory battles so they could never lose.

Whole system is convoluted and a mess to be honest.

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Random MMO fan

Yes, there are many flaws with this system and no benefits. Amazon doesn’t really care, though. If they cared – they could at the very least add optional islands or expand the territory on current map to include optional PvP-only areas where people are free to attack each other and attack keep or castle at any time of the day and where people who do PvE are never forced to visit and can live on PvE territory and pay fixed taxes forever. Amazon has no plans for that, though, so people will exploit the current awful system until they’ll get bored by doing that (after all, you cannot do anything interesting like destroy the forts or settlements or evict players from settlements), after which PvP people will just quit, leaving PvE people to craft useless stuff and kill monsters for no good reason other than grinding reputation for NPC faction.

It will be hilarious to read all the reviews by people who will play it for a couple of weeks, especially all naive people who think this game is “Sandbox with survival elements and Dark Souls combat” ;-)

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Ironwu

Want this sort of game play? Just go play EVE Online.

EVE is undoubtedly a much more refined and bug free game. Probably a lot cheaper to, since it currently costs nothing to play a whole bunch of the content!

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Pepperzine

Really Eve? I’m imagining watching the gameplay of eve side-by-side with gameplay of this game. I’m having difficulty trying to spot the similarities of the gameplay of the two titles.

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Fisty

No. Aside from the numerous reasons for new people to avoid it, EVE is very dated and that can be hard to get past.

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Random MMO fan

LOL.

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Sorenthaz

One’s an active action-combaty game from what I’ve seen. The other is largely a slow-moving point-and-click game.

They’re very different.

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Paul

I play both – Eve for PvP, STO for PvE. STO PvP is a joke compared to Eve, but for story / PvE its the reverse

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Random MMO fan

You are insulting EVE Online by comparing this instanced battleground by schedule with its gameplay.

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NeoWolf

New World factional PVP… This game isn’t even out and its identity crisis already bores me :)

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Utakata

Oh, good…this nice break from watching the horror show of Amazon’s labor relations unfolding.

(To be fair, so is the /popcorn reactions to New World here for that fact! o.O )