Global Chat: New World might be worth the wait

    
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Global Chat: New World might be worth the wait

One opinion I’ve seen echoed across many corners of our community is that New World is actually shaping up to be a pretty decent MMO. This is especially surprising considering the lengthy delay to 2021, but the recent preview event made several converts, including Belghast from Tales of the Aggronaut.

New World was not a game I expected to like,” he said. “However after having played it for a significant number of hours and through multiple tests I am really looking forward to it launching. They are making some big gambles by constraining the player to largely interact with a specific settlement, but it might also create a game with multiple rich player environments rather than a single vibrant city.”

Roger from Contains Moderate Peril wasn’t quite as enamored with the preview, noting, “The quests are somewhat arbitrary and clearly show how that they’ve been added at a later date to facilitate a change in the game’s direction.”

Priest with a Cause: Happy birthday to WoW Classic

“It’s a bit hard to say what the population is like now. Anecdotally, even the ‘medium’ server I play on seems very busy at all times, but as the saying goes, the plural of anecdotes is not data. Blizzard stopped releasing sub numbers years ago, and even if they still did we wouldn’t know how many of those subs can be attributed to Classic vs. retail. I do consider it telling though that Classic was called out positively in three out of four of their last quarterly earnings calls.”

Why I Game: LitRPG, where fictional meets MMORPGs

“LitRPG, to me, seems to be written by a generation of people who have less background in books per se, but whose growing-up experience has been the odd physical and virtual blend of always being on the internet, always having social media around, always playing some form of video game. Little wonder that their real world selves merge with their digital selves, and this craving need to resolve the paradox.”

The Friendly Necromancer: Feeling directionless in Project Gorgon and finding direction

“The Spirit Fox is in its ‘alpha’ phase, so to speak. The developers said that things will be changing on the class in the near future, and there are some oversights: there’s currently no ‘beast speech’ for the class, there’s no alchemy damage boost potion, there’s no synergy levels, higher qualities of Bounceweed don’t have movement benefits, some of the skills behave a little strangely… I’m sure things will change. ”

Blessings of Kings: The problem with Battle for Azeroth’s story part 1

“Unlike a lot of forum posters, I actually think WoW’s writers are pretty good. There are a lot really well done small stories and small moments in BfA. For example, I loved the work they did with Jaina, at least until the aftermath of attack on Ogrimmar. However, the writers also have a tendency to make really big, bone-headed mistakes. These mistakes are so huge, that they wipe out all the good that has been done, has been built up.”

Mailvatar: I like having stuff to do, but I hate dailies

“You see, almost no mission in Warframe has a cooldown or other form of time-gated restriction to entry. Ran a mission and didn’t get what you want? Just run it again if you like. And again. And again.”

Chasing Dings: A match of mahjong in FFXIV

“I’m still so pumped from Wednesday’s game night. I just want to play more Mahjong. Luckily, FFXIV is always there to help with that need. I’m still a novice, an absolute beginner, so I sat down at the beginner board and the game gave me some AI opponents to play with.”

Every day there are tons of terrific, insightful, and unusual articles posted across the MMO gaming blogosphere — and every day, Justin reads as many as he can. Global Chat is a sampling of noteworthy essays, rants, and guides from the past few weeks of MMO discourse.

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Rodrigo Dias Costa

Never heard the term LitRPG before, although I’m familiar with the Isekai genre, which is basically the same thing, but japanese.

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budtoker420

I think Lazy Peon summed this one up pretty well. I’m always hungry for a new MMO to sink some time into but I have very little interest in this game thus far. I watched a lot of streams and I just didn’t see anything compelling or interesting about this game. It’s pretty, but that’s about all I can say for it. It actually reminded me a lot of Bless Unleashed, and that’s not a compliment.

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Bannex

Lol not like anybody has a choice

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Greaterdivinity

Ask yourself this: how often have you logged into a game while not really feeling a desire to do so, but because you felt you kind of had to? If your answer is “never” you have much more self-restraint than I do, and kudos!

But dailies, login-campaigns, rewards on a time-logged-in basis…all this stuff that has nothing to do with us having fun playing your games and everything with MAUs and other such crappy statistics you can proudly present to your shareholders…that kind of shit can’t go extinct soon enough as far as I’m concerned.

Who is Mailvaltar and why are they apparently me!? I can’t agree hard enough with everything in that blog post, holy crap is it painfully on-point. I don’t even want to remember the pain of doing months of awful daily quests to get an epic flying mount in Burning Crusade. That was the worst.

Damnit, now I’m getting the itch to play Warframe again even though I get overwhelmed every time I try.

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Mailvaltar

Thank you for the kind words!

Is it Warframe’s difficulty that oberwhelms you, or the sheer amount of different systems and stuff to do?

In any case, I’d be glad to help if you like. My Warframe handle is Mailvaltar too. I can’t remember for the life of me whether there are different servers for different regions or somesuch; if there are I’m on Europe.

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budtoker420

The experience for newer players in Warframe is awful. I’ve tried to get into the game several times now, mostly recently just a couple weeks ago. I gave it 10 hours or so and ended up just as confused as when I started.

The straw that broke the camel’s back this time was a quest that sent me to an open world area. I had to go find some bodies and scan them or something. There were supposed to be 4 bodies but I could only locate 3 and I was unable to interact with them or scan them. I figured this must be a bug so I reload the mission and try again. Same problem. So I tab out and try to look it up and I see people reporting issues with this quest going back years. Meanwhile, this is a lower level quest but I’m getting swarmed by higher level enemies I don’t stand a chance against. It was just layers of frustration.

I love the core gameplay in Warframe. I don’t understand how they can make the gameplay and graphics so good but make the basics of the game so convoluted and difficult to follow. It’s a struggle to figure out what I should be doing. I’m someone who really wants to like the game but every time I try it the frustration ends up outweighing the fun factor.

I will say it’s the best F2P game I’ve tried and I’ve got a good 30 hours out of it for free. I wish I could get into it more.

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IronSalamander8 .

New World hasn’t looked interesting at all since you folks first covered it. The graphics are decent but the setting is dull and reading about and seeing other people playing it, it sounds boring already.

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Bruno Brito

“Might”

It also might not. We’ll see in november.

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Adam Russell

I had to switch servers because the one I started on started to hit cap so I couldnt get on one night.

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Rndomuser

It may be worth the wait, or it may not be. Regardless of other people’s opinions (especially the streamers who got access to the game from Amazon specifically for streaming and who may feel compelled to say positive things about it because of that), I personally did not see anything in that game worth buying it for during this open beta test. The initial gameplay of leveling up and discovering new things may be rewarding, but once you get to max level – then what? Are you gonna keep grinding world bosses which can be killed in less than a minute once you are high enough level and have people who know what they’re doing in your group? Are you gonna keep crafting same useless items which everyone else can craft and which are not even necessary to use because you can get all necessary weapons/gear from drops? Are you gonna bother with capturing the territory which has no meaning (you cannot evict anyone from territory which your faction holds, or build anything interesting on it, or prevent other players from entering into settlements that your faction controls, or prevent people from gathering resources on the territory your faction controls)? Or patiently wait to queue for a 50v50 instance on specific day of the week at specific time period? If those things are somehow enjoyable to you – this is fine, but none of those are enjoyable to me so I do not have any reason to be excited about the game, at least not yet.

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ichi sakari

fair assessment, after the pivot they not only need to add end-game PvE content, figure out the role of crafting then make it interesting, and redesign lots of the original-concept PvP mechanics to make it all mesh

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camren_rooke

I watched some of MJ’s video of it and it just doesn’t look very appealing to me.

Just kind of dull.

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Dug From The Earth

Nearly every PVE quest in the game is a “Kill X enemies” or “Open X boxes”. You can tell they rushed to try and pivot the game from being primarily PvP, into being something else.

Its mind numbing.

You will enter the same 3 buildings to find chests over and over
Towns are the same 15 or so buildings, just laid out differently.

Combat suffers from HUGE desync issues. You will frequently see your weapon go right through the enemy but do no damage. Combat itself is pretty limited for an mmo. It tries to be dark souls… if dark souls was legos, New world combat is Duplo Blocks.

IMO the best part of the game are the visuals. The world is beautiful.

The rest of the game, just feels like a shell at best, and will struggle to keep the majority of players around for very long at all. The game has no idea what it wants to be, and so it only half asses everything it does… short of the visuals.

I really fail to see how such big names in the video game industry, backed by amazons resources, only managed to pump out the very limited and shallow game we have currently. Guess it goes to show.. .just because you worked on good games in the past, doesnt mean you were the genius behind WHY those games were good.

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Ironwu

I think the reason that the world is good and the game is crap is this . . .

The world was made from the start and so is fully formed. It did not need to change when the switch was made from PvP to PvE.

The rest of it is new, rushed, poorly developed and specifically done in the past few months for the PvE game.

For myself, I have no intention of putting any money into this game until I see and read lots of information. My fear is that what you describe is what is going to launch as it takes an order of magnitude more time to build a PvE game than it does a PvP game. And it does not look like they are going to put in the time.

We shall see.

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Rndomuser

Nearly every PVE quest in the game is a “Kill X enemies” or “Open X boxes”. You can tell they rushed to try and pivot the game from being primarily PvP, into being something else.

Yea, it was both sad and amusing to swtich streams of people playing New World on Twitch and seeing same exact words in quest log overlay about “kill those evil things” and “open containers to gather things”.

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PlasmaJohn

> I really fail to see how such big names in the video game industry, backed by amazons resources, only managed to pump out the very limited and shallow game we have currently. Guess it goes to show.. .just because you worked on good games in the past, doesnt mean you were the genius behind WHY those games were good.

Should be no big mystery. You don’t hire a proctologist to deal with heart issues. Yes the doctor is familiar with the terms but that’s not his area of expertise.

Engineers and content developers are the same way. We all have our specialties. NW’s team is (was?) made of PvP specialists and just got told to make PvE content. If you’re shocked their PvE content isn’t up to snuff you only have yourself to blame.

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Bruno Brito

Nearly every PVE quest in the game is a “Kill X enemies” or “Open X boxes”. You can tell they rushed to try and pivot the game from being primarily PvP, into being something else.

Not ‘or’. ‘AND’. Every story quest is Kill 20 enemies, check 10 boxes.