Epic ends support for Fortnite: Save the World on Mac because Apple won’t sign patch updates

    
22
Epic ends support for Fortnite: Save the World on Mac because Apple won’t sign patch updates

The saga of Epic and Apple’s legal spat has once more applied a ripple effect to players, this time to Fortnite’s PvE mode Save the World. According to a post this past Thursday, Apple is preventing Epic Games from signing updates and releasing fixes when applying the game’s latest update, and so Epic is ending support on September 23rd.

As a result of the matter, Epic is issuing refunds to those who purchased founder’s packs, V-Bucks, or llamas between September 17, 2019 and September 17, 2020, while starter pack sales have ended as of this past Thursday. Those who are getting refunds may not see them arrive to bank accounts until as late as October 2nd.

As for Battle Royale players, that mode remains playable for Mac users on the v13.40 build, but is also no longer to receive updates due to Apple’s block. The post does remind Mac players that current updates to both modes can be found on other platforms, and since the game is cross-progression across all platforms, it might be a good time to consider moving somewhere else until this ends.

This is just another result of the ongoing legal saga between Epic Games and Apple over Fortnite; Apple claims the matter is being strung along by Epic through “subterfuge” in an attempt to “reinvigorate interest in Fortnite,” while Epic claims that it’s fighting the 30% Apple Store cut to stop a monopoly. The judge hearing the case has thus far stated “the current predicament appears of [Epic’s] own making,” but things won’t move along legally until the next hearing on September 28th.

source: official site via VG247

No posts to display

22
LEAVE A COMMENT

Please Login to comment
  Subscribe  
newest oldest most liked
Subscribe to:
Reader
Rndomuser

It is both sad and amusing seeing people trying to find excuses for Apple. I wonder what people would say if Apple implemented a policy where either customers or cellular providers had to pay 30% of the price it would cost cellular providers to provide service (meaning that whatever you see on your phone bill – add 30% extra which either the provider, or most likely you will have to pay) and Apple would block SIM cards of providers who would disagree with such policy. Or same thing for using unofficial accessories – for example if you will buy a no-name power supply or power cable from Aliexpress, which wouldn’t work for charging if Apple would detect this accessory does not have necessary chip with certificate which shows that manufacturer pays Apple 30% of the profits from all sold accessories for iPhone. Something which they already tried doing when iPhones were repaired by third-party repair centers by replacing fingerprint sensor that was not approved by Apple.

As for people mentioning that Windows Store has similar 30% revenue share. That is true, but Microsoft never encourages any developer to sell any software through their Windows Store. Especially through punishing developers who don’t want to use their Windows Store by annoying users and interfering with updates through revoking their own signing certificate and blocking installation using something like Microsoft’s own version of Apple’s Gatekeeper (yes, you can install uncertified programs on Mac OS but it is made to be more annoying than on Windows unless you just disable Gatekeeper completely).

No wonder I see comments in other threads where similar people try to defend policies which made to take away a choice from people who do not mind running apps or games made by foreign company. The “providing customers a choice is always bad” mindset is very strong with people here.

Reader
Schmidt.Capela

I only defend Apple because what Epic is asking for is absurd. Epic’s demands are akin to McDonalds suing to force Burger King to allow McDonalds to sell their own meals inside Burger King restaurants without paying anything to Burger King.

If Epic was asking for Apple to be forced to give customers the option to install third party apps obtained outside Apple’s official App store, similar to what Android (and Windows) allow, then I would be defending Epic’s position despite hating Epic itself. But those jerks at Epic are overreaching in a dangerous way.

In other words: I do think Apple is in the wrong, but not in the way Epic argues. Apple should be allowed to run their App store any way they want; if they want to increase the Apple cut to 70%, Apple should be allowed to do so. Where Apple is in the wrong is in not allowing other stores to sell their apps to Apple device users; what Apple should be forced to do is to allow other companies to set their own application stores to compete with Apple’s App store.

Reader
Rndomuser

what Apple should be forced to do is to allow other companies to set their own application stores to compete with Apple’s App store

Yes, that is what should be happening. Note that Epic does not actively focus on Google – yes, they started a lawsuit against Google but it is pretty obvious that they knew it would lead to nothing, and I don’t believe Google should be forced to allow apps to be sold on their own store which could bypass Google’s own payment system since Google still allows smartphone manufacturers to allow installation of apps from any source. For example, on my Galaxy S20 I can still install Fortnite from Samsung’s own app store or just by downloading this app from Epic’s own webpage and Google does not receive any money from those options and does not restrict Samsung in any way because of that.

And I do agree that Epic goes overboard with demand to allow their game being hosted by someone else’s app store while bypassing the payment system used by that app store, but if it will change Apple’s behavior to a more fair one where they will be forced to allow installation of any software on iPhone from any source without forcing any app developer to only use Apple’s own app store – this would be a positive thing.

Reader
Lateris

Just reading the the lack of understanding that some of these folks have for an open market on Apples platforms and the lack of understanding how laws do apply here is not that great of a warm buzzy feeling, it feels more like an ulcer. No offense.

Well, I am off to playing PC games and not the forum games, l8r.

Reader
ting

Apple brought them that viewership and they agreed to it. If you don’t like it make your own platform and device. It’s that simple. Stop being crybabies.

Reader
Schmidt.Capela

Apple already offered, both in public offers and court fillings, to immediately restore Epic’s dev accounts as soon as Epic stops trying to violate the App Store’s policies; given that offer being on record, I don’t think Epic refusing to take it would in any way increase their chances of success. So, this basically means Epic thinks throwing their Apple users under the bus is a good tradeoff for whatever bad PR this causes Apple.

Reader
Kickstarter Donor
Patreon Donor
Loyal Patron
Ashfyn Ninegold

Yeah, not sure what Epic thinks the end-game is here. If the outcome is that Apple can’t charge a fee if the dev doesn’t want to pay it, then Apple just doesn’t carry Epic games. How does this help them? So something’s going on that isn’t clear yet. Epic wants market share, but unless there’s something else afoot, I think they broke into the wrong rec room.

Reader
Bruno Brito

I think Ark was the one who got correct the most: Epic is clearly wanting a market share on the mobile market, but they don’t want to invest into what can be a futile venture. They clearly considered their options and felt that this PR BS, involving the law and getting out with what can be a huge L is still better than failing normally.

I wonder how much they’ll lose on this venture.

Reader
zaber

Epic was planing to kill off save the world for a long time. Epic didn’t care much about save the world ones they pull dev off of it to pull in to Fornite.

Reader
Sorenthaz

Let’s pretend they ever cared about Save the World after Battle Royale turned out to be their lightning in a bottle that saved an otherwise badly designed whale baiter.

Reader
Kickstarter Donor
Patreon Donor
Loyal Patron
Ashfyn Ninegold

So this was all just a ploy so they could stop supporting Fortnite and blame it on Apple? Some dudes have horribly twisty turn-y minds.

/s

Leo
Reader
Leo

I didn’t even know that was available for mac…

oruh
Reader
oruh

30% is a lot. I hope to see apple collapse in my lifetime.

Reader
Arktouros

Then you also hope that Amazon, Steam, Microsoft, Sony and basically everyone else collapses in your lifetime because they all charge 30% as well.

oruh
Reader
oruh

Those statements weren’t related. 30% is a lot, and also, I hope to see apple collapse in my lifetime.

Reader
Utakata

…I hope to see pigs fly too.

Reader
Bruno Brito

Good save.

Reader
Lethality

You know that’s industry standard right? And you know that’s what Microsoft and Sony have as their cut from their stores too? But Epic doesn’t care about them.

Reader
Robert Mann

Slight correction, Epic has kissed up to them for some reason, praising them without mentioning their cut. Epic has regularly called the grass on the console side greener, even with regard to customers (that they don’t interface with and don’t need to provide any support for, so basically without a clue)… and I think it really goes to show just how rotten their attitude toward the end user is.

Reader
Danny Smith

Bold of them to imply they have supported it at all once the battle royale meme took off.

Reader
McGuffn

They did update their crappy lockboxes to be theoretically less crappy. That’s content, right?

Reader
Schmidt.Capela

I love the idea of transparent lootboxes. That way you already know your next lootbox will be crappy before you purchase it and can, thus, opt to just not buy it instead.

I might even purchase a transparent lootbox on occasion, mind, though only as long as everything that can be obtained from lootboxes can also be directly purchased from the publisher (i.e., the item didn’t come from a lootbox in the first place) with no luck involved.