Global Chat: Why is LOTRO charging for its fall update?


Roger over at Contains Moderate Peril recently ducked into the upcoming DLC for Lord of the Rings Online to see what it contained and if it was worth the $20 price tag. He reports that it looks pretty standard for an update and considers it a little strange why SSG is charging for it.

“I suspect that the recent downtime and the ongoing performance issues that are still blighting the game have hit SSG hard financially,” Roger speculates. “They are probably obliged to hit specific financial targets set by Daybreak Game Company and have failed to do so in recent months. If that is the case then they’ve probably been ‘instructed’ to raise revenue via alternative means and this hasty repackaging of an update into a ‘mini-expansion’ is their ‘get out of jail’ card. Or at least on paper.”

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Bruno Brito

Probably because they blew up whatever was left of the budget to fix the servers. Wanna bet no executive got a cut in their paycheck to help?


I don’t have a problem with LOTRO charging money for it per se. I just think the price point seems really steep based on what they’ve shared about the update and based on the current state of game functioning.

I’d be willing to pay something for it, but not necessarily the $20-$100 price tag.

2Ton Gamer

but people already did pay for this same thing (size of content), they were called quest packs and you either subscribe to get them or buy them with LOTRO Points, two things that are not good enough for this new “mini expansion”. Sorry, but it’s just shit and maybe people would be more willing to give up some money if they were at least honest with their players.


Yeah, not being able to use LOTRO points stinks. :(

2Ton Gamer

I speculated when the news was announced this very same thing because you don’t do something so abrupt which would draw what they surely knew would be a nasty take on this unless you are left with no choice, especially after the terrible press they have received all summer. It’s a shame to burn through all of that goodwill they garnered during the spring with giving away their quest packs in such a manner. So long as Daybreak owns them and all appearances are to that very thing, the game will continue to spiral downward before it could have.


LOTRO: The writing is on the wall. Time to skim as much cash from the faithful as possible. Always liked LOTRO, but the management of the game has gone downhill ever since Turbine folded.

2Ton Gamer

When SSG was formed, some of us thought this could be a good way to do things better and be that shiny little sleeper gem that many know it can be. Unfortunately they got into bed with Morgoth (Daybreak) and have been doing sketchy high-priced expansions ever since and where did that money go? Certainly not back into the systems of the game.

Vincent Clark

Interestingly enough…when SSG broke off from WB someone posted something on the OF about them finally being able to “do things better” and MadeofLions stepped in and said that Turbine never felt financially or creatively hindered by WB. I mean, at that point, they cut ties so he had no reason NOT to be honest.

My point is Turbine is SSG and SSG is Turbine. Regardless of Daybreak, this is about poor choices and bad management. SSG made a choice with Daybreak. They continue to make bad choices today.