The Daily Grind: What do onlookers not understand about your MMO of choice?

    
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The Daily Grind: What do onlookers not understand about your MMO of choice?

I do not understand Guild Wars 2. I don’t mean that solely in the sense of the game’s mechanics not making sense (there are definitely some problems with making the stats more arcane than they need to be, though); I mean it in the very simple sense that I do not have firsthand knowledge of the game as someone who actively plays it. My perspective is from the outside looking in, and as a result there are some things that even in my field and with the benefit of a genre knowledge, there are elements I simply do not understand.

This is true for every game, though. If you haven’t played World of Warcraft in five years, even if you used to know the game very well, there are things you almost certainly do not understand about the game that I do. Lapsed players from SMITE probably do not understand the game’s meta right now no matter how good they used to be. So what do you find that onlookers do not understand about your MMO of choice? What misconception or misunderstanding do you see on the regular that you know is wrong partly because of your play experience?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!

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NeoWolf

I think my question would be, Why does it matter whether onlookers get what you enjoy about a game or not?

It’s not really relevant to convince others of a games merits to us, we are responsible for our own opinions and enjoyments not those of others or we’d be developers not players . They have a job to please others, we do not. Our only job is to find and enjoy what pleases ourselves :)

So, as long as you get why you like a game, and are content with it, then all is well I say. Let others decide for themselves what they like or don’t and leave them to it. If that happesnt o be the same things, great, if not C’est La Vie.

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Jokerchyld

Why are you playing a 20 year old game that looks absolutely disgusting. You need to play a game made this year.

(when my kids see me playing Everquest).

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kjempff

That it is not a “video game”.

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Neurotic

My wife has been watching me play WoW for 15 years, and she regularly expresses her disgust about this fact. Just last night she was asking me if I regret all the time I’ve spent playing it over the last decade and a half. She thinks it’s a huge waste of time, to which I always say that “time wasting is subjective”. :D

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Bruno Brito

I feel like GW2 stats are not arcane, they’re just bad.

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Rndomuser

What misconception or misunderstanding do you see on the regular that you know is wrong partly because of your play experience?

One of the biggest ones is that “EVE Online is a gankbox only made for people who enjoy killing others in games and PvP is unavoidable“. The fact is (and yes, this is actually the fact), if you are a smart person with good attention you can always find ways to do any activity in safety, be it either mining, manufacturing or killing stupid AI enemies. It’s not as unforgiving as other games towards people who do not want to pay attention to anything or too lazy to research and efficiently use information (and it is perfectly fine if you are one of those persons) but if you don’t want to participate in PvP – you can avoid it and do other stuff in this game.

My original EVE Online account is from 2005, I don’t remember a single time when someone blew up my ship during the time I was not intentionally putting myself in danger, and I’ve done everything in that game, from manufacturing to grinding faction rep through repeatable PvE missions to mining, random exploration, spying as well as small and large fleet battles against other players. Only reason I quit EVE long time ago is it got boring (yes, any kind of PvP can get boring, even large scale one with permanently capturable territory, same goes for using best market or crafting system out of any MMORPG games or using social engineering to scam others into giving you money or destroying corporations, and sadly many companies which make MMORPGs that are only focused on few of those activities do not realize this) and I just wanted to do something else like interacting with other player’s in-game avatars using my own in-game avatar outside of the ships.

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Paul

Spot on – there are so many misconceptions about Eve and this is #1 (#2 is its impossible to get competitive with older players)

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Turing fail

Agreed- we are not all murder hobos in space.

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Oleg Chebeneev

That grass is not greener. Talking about WoW

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Loopy

People enjoying playing WoW Classic are wrong. Somehow their fun is simply not valid, and they are blind to the truth. How can they not understand that it’s all just rose tinted goggles?! The game is objectively bad, and they’re just white-knighting a nostalgic memory when the current iteration of the game is superior in all aspects.

Guys.. it’s simply fun to play it, that’s all.

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Chris Neal

People have this unmitigated, unrelenting, and sometimes creepy hate-on for Lalafell in FFXIV. They’re just short adults, folks, what the hell?

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K8 D

Yeah it’s weird. People like to hate the short races. Gnomes in wow get the same or similar treatment. Joking about punting them, guild kicking, ganking, etc. I think it’s mostly just jokes but it’s pretty old now.

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Paragon Lost

Gnomes don’t come near to looking like sexualized children that Lalafell do in FFXIV. Bad comparison.

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K8 D

The reason for hating them wasn’t mentioned. If that’s what you assume, that’s dandy, but that’s not where my mind went. Rereading, i can see the context clues though, but it’s pretty common to have weird community hate for the small races. Asura, gnomes, lalas, etc.

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Bruno Brito

Am i missing something? I googled lalafell, found a lot of cute art, good transmogs, but i didn’t find a single sexualized picture, not even fanart or transmog.

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Rndomuser

Here is a hint: go to Twitter, type 2 tags, one after another: “#lalafell #nsfw”. You will see what people do with this race in terms of sexualization. Google search censors all this disgusting shit. Twitter doesn’t. This is definitely not “cute”.

HUGE WARNING: do not do this search if someone else may see what you’re doing.

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Bruno Brito

Here is a hint: go to Twitter, type 2 tags, one after another: “#lalafell #nsfw”

But that’s not my point. NSFW works exist of anything. It doesn’t mean the race itself, in the game, is overssexualized.

Hentai is full of crap too. None of it is official material either.

What i mean is: The game itself doesn’t overssexualize the race ( like Tera does with elins ).

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Rndomuser

Game itself actually does that too. There are various glamours like the ones from Golden Saucer, as well as some others, including swimsuits which people combine to make their characters look more sexy with more revealing body parts. They are not made specifically for Lalas but they do fit them. Same goes for emotes. Combined all of those and you get a child-like character looking like a prostitute (and animate like one, with certain emotes). Come visit Balmung some time, especially during evening times in US, people there specifically do this with Lala characters, for eRP purposes, luckily there are very, very few people who do this.

If Square Enix would make certain glamours and emotes for Lalas unavailable or at least make the race itself less child-like (in terms of facial features and available voiceovers when you customize them on character selection screen) – then maybe many people would not have such negative opinion about them being “inappropriate race played by perverts”.

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Bruno Brito

I don’t play FF14. I played for a bit and didnt like it.

I can agree with you half-way. I don’t think child-like races should be allowed to dress oversexualized outfits. That creates a issue with the community tho, but i would rather have that.

That being said, NSFW is not official artwork. So, it’s moot.

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styopa

FFXIV is one thing, Tera another.
FF14 there are lala’s and IMO they’re not sexualized in the game as far I noticed. Sure, there are some on the web but Rule 34 applies to FURNITURE for pete’s sake.
Tera – another deal ENTIRELY. Definitely sexualized, and definitely more childlike.

Whole LEGIONS of /nope in Tera for me. I’m discomforted enough by it that Tera’s not even on my list to play anymore. There are enough equal-or-better alternatives that I don’t need that bobbing around on my screen.

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Bruno Brito

Yeah. Like i said: Tera does it. I didn’t find anything overssexualized in FF14 for lalafells.

I don’t blame Nintendo for pokemon hentai. I won’t blame Square for lalafell fanart.

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Rndomuser

That’s your personal perception of them. To other people, Lalafell look like small children, so they do not want to play them or see others playing them, especially in case when others use a somewhat revealing clothing for their Lala characters. And no matter what you’ll say it will not change their opinion.

It’s like with anime – certain anime has very young-looking characters, which are supposedly “adults” according to age assigned by their creators, but other people will think of them as children based on their appearance no matter what assigned age they have and will always be weirded out by people who enjoy watching those characters.

It’s just a matter of personal perception based on visual appearance.

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Bruno Brito

I made a lalafell warrior when i tried to play. It’s basically a cute goblin.

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TomTurtle

That Guild Wars 2 is still alive and in active development. Once an MMO is out of some people’s radar, I guess they just assume it died.

Also that it’s raid-centric when it’s really not. It has raids, but they’re not the main focus. The main focus being soloable story content and arguably fashion wars.

I didn’t like the introduction of raids to the game like many others, but after seeing how they turned out, I’m not too fussed by them at this point. I can continue on with most of the game without feeling like I’m obligated to raid for things like gear or vital story elements.

As for World of Warcraft, people hear about all the terrible design decisions in its Battle for Azeroth expansion and assume it’s simply all bad. It’s certainly not all that great, but it’s got enough good stuff to keep me around otherwise I wouldn’t be playing. But I am a casual solo player who doesn’t engage in end-game group content where the most vocal encounter the bad design stuff, so take that as you will.

I believe the Zandalar and Kul Tiras zone content to be really well-designed with quest design, artwork, sound and replayability. The variety of these zones also applies to the dungeons, which are a visual treat, especially Waycrest Manor.

The latter open world zones are a mixed bag, especially 8.3 content being awful, but many others speak positively of 8.2 stuff.

And I’ve probably engaged with this expansion the most as there’s always been so much to pursue reward-wise.

There are a lot of valid complaints about the expansion, but I have to disagree when the hyperbole comes in that doesn’t acknowledge any of the good.