PSA: Oculus users who delete their linked Facebook account will lose their entire app library

    
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PSA: Oculus users who delete their linked Facebook account will lose their entire app library

So, remember when Facebook commanded that Oculus Rift or Quest users link the device to their Facebook accounts? Wasn’t that such a grand idea? Well, it would appear that bottom has dropped out: UploadVR confirmed initial Twitter digging from tech experts that if you delete your Facebook account, you’re also deleting your Oculus account as well, including all app purchases, earned achievements, the ability to return apps, and any store credits you may have in your account.

This decree most directly affects owners of the Quest 2 headset. Those using the original Quest, Rift, or Rift S do not need to link their Oculus account to their Facebook account for now, so Facebook account deletion won’t end up scorching their earth. Bear in mind, however, that Oculus account support will be ending in January 2023, so those who own one of those older headsets will have to wait for an update from Facebook on what it’s deciding to them as 2023 nears according to a Facebook spokesperson.

It’s also important to note that Oculus users who violate Facebook’s terms and see their Facebook account suspended will also see a suspension of their Oculus accounts. This includes the use of a pseudonym or creating a fake date of birth. And tech dudes wonder why the VR revolution has stalled.

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Zero_1_Zerum

*sigh* …I remember when Oculus made me hopeful that VR technology would become common and therefore cheap enough for almost everyone to afford. Like, HD TV’s were thousands of dollars and now you can pick a decent one up at Walmart for a couple hundred, at least in the USA.

Now… not so much, not since they sold out to FB. I don’t think VR is going to be a common thing almost everyone has, like smartphones are today. And, if it does become that common, I hope it’s not through Facebook.

What other VR headsets are on the market? Because I’m sure never going to get an Oculus.

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McGuffn

Trash company.

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HolyAvengerOne

I usually disagree and resent such strongly negative and polarized opinions but here… Gotta admit it is what it is.

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Sean Smith

meh, I bought Oculus Quest 2’s for each of my two (adult) daughters. I warned both they’d need to link a Facebook account, both said ‘I’ve been on Facebook for 10 years, what’s the problem?’ Meanwhile, I have an Index, and have never had a Facebook account and never will.

I suspect there are far more people like my daughters (have Facebook account, however minimally, AND interested in VR) than there are like me (willing to chase the best VR, will never have Facebook).

I’m also a Massively reader, they’re not: people like me just aren’t the target audience of the Quest 2, and I’m sure Oculus and Facebook are perfectly ok with that.

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HolyAvengerOne

I’m with you right there. Would go mout of my way not to trust anything more to Facebook.

In general, I’m trying hard not to spend $$ on tech that’s tied / locked to an account for most (or all!) of its features.

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Utakata

Ah yes, it’s cake or death again! /bleh

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rafael12104

Hmm. A sad situation and a definite lack of common sense and vision.

If you are on the cutting edge, you take care of your early adopters. They are the in road to future tech. Screw them over and you are, well, screwing yourself.

This is no minor glitch. They better find a better solution that does not include that link. This reminds me of how XboxOne handed the the reigns over to PS4 because of their own stupidity.

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Paragon Lost

(chuckle) Color me totally unsurprised by this.

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overbyte

What a shame that the best appliance style vr set with the greatest chance of mass adoption was bought under the pretence of not forcing Facebook onto its users, which it is now doing.

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Greaterdivinity

Mark Zuckerberg has the kind of face you can trust. You know, much like Lore from Star Trek.

Turing fail
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Turing fail

Lore had more charisma…

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Greaterdivinity

Brent Spiner is a far better actor than Zuckerberg. In that he can actually act like an emotionless robot and an emotion filled robot. Zuckerberg seems only capable of the former, because it’s not an act.

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MilitiaMasterV

Pretty sure Mark Zuckerberg has got an un-diagnosed mental illness. (I’ve heard Aspergers)

And you’re mocking him, which feeds into stigma/stereotypes against people with mental issues.

Whereas Brent Spiner’s (Played both Data and Lore, and Noonian Singh) actually diagnosed, and a very creative person who was trying to show that being different, or even all the same, isn’t a bad thing.

Variety is the spice of life. If we were all the same, it wouldn’t be any fun.

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Greaterdivinity

I’m not mocking him for any disability or mental illness. I’m mocking him because he’s one of the most powerful and influential men in the world, running a website that’s demonstrably contributing to the spread of misinformation and violence, while talking out of both sides of his mouth to protect his financial interests.

Even if he does have something he hasn’t gone public with, he’s still a billionaire with far, far, far, far, far too much power who has shown himself to be politically ruthless (see: courting conservatives aggressively and making changes to internal policies to boost conservative sites and posters while reducing liberal site and posters, while publicly saying that Facebook doesn’t pick winners and treats everyone equally. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THIS but that doesn’t make it any less scummy) in a way that I feel no qualms about punching up at him.

I don’t know why anyone would be quick to jump to the defense of a ultra-wealthy billionaire who has objectively contributed towards a considerable amount of evil in this world.

Variety is the spice of life, I agree. But I generally try to not season my meat with asbestos, that’s the kind of spice I can miss.

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MilitiaMasterV

Oh, I could point out so many things wrong with what you just said, but I’ll just point out who you sound like instead…y’know, the people who believe big tech is out to install chips in us all, and how dare anyone not believe that…it all comes from a place of conspiracy theory paranoia nonsense. Careful, you’re now looking mentally ill…

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Greaterdivinity

I think if the opportunity presented itself that they’d love to get access to everything in our brains to sell to advertisers, sure. But I don’t think it’s something that’s anytime soon, even with Elon Musk’s Neuralink company thingy.

I just don’t trust massive companies usually. Nor tech companies that profit by selling our data. Nor specifically, Facebook. What with the fact that they have serious internal issues that are widely reported on, have made a series of very public blunders and mistakes that harmed users, have extensive reporting directly connecting the Facebook platform and either Facebook’s lack of moderation/oversight or intentional internal policies with causing direct harm or allowing for direct harm to be facilitated through their platform etc. etc. etc.

Am I mentally ill? Yeah, actually. Not like, talking to imaginary friends ill, my diagnosis is far more common and boring.

Weren’t you just admonishing me for “mocking mental issues” before you appear to have mocked me for mental issues in that post? Flake off.

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MilitiaMasterV

It’s almost like someone has a personal agenda at stake here. Perhaps you work for a competitor?

I would have responded sooner, but I was literally in the hospital for the last 5 days.

I did it to show you how easy it is for someone to use something about you as a reason to throw you under the bus, while disregarding the things they DO bring. You’re depersonalizing the person behind a CORPORATION that does those things, that is A GROUP of people that desires those outcomes. You’re misplacing your disgust, and frankly, you just don’t even understand that it’s not just a single PERSON doing that shit, it’s a lot of humanity lately, and your behavior you are presenting right here, is just another example of it. So yeah, tell me to ‘Flake off’ because I won’t kiss your arse and give you the adulation you think you deserve because you believe you are right and others are wrong.

You’re just as bad as you claim Zuckerberg is…

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Greaterdivinity

The personal stake of not wanting corporations in my brain, sure. But that’s about it. I wouldn’t want to work on a competitor, because I have ethical issues with this type of technology to begin with.

I’m not “depersonalizing” anyone, Zuckerberg still controls Facebook and dictates their policies, including on the Facebook platform. That other people are bad doesn’t somehow make Zuckerberg less awful, or the consequences of his choices on his platforms less damaging.

I’m not running a multi-billion dollar company that’s responsible for facilitating violent attacks against other, gladly turns a blind eye (or doesn’t even try in some regions/countries) to moderation because it’s inconvenient and costly, talks out of both sides of his mouth while favoring a political group and claiming to be neutral, set up the company in such a way that oversight was not maintained and the data of millions of users was illegally harvested etc. etc. etc. So yeah, flake off on that, still.

But hope you’re doing better after whatever landed you in the hospital, dude. That’s no bueno, and glad you’re out (as that’s usually a good sign).

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MilitiaMasterV

He’s a person too. He has a wife, and a kid(Maybe more, I haven’t kept up with gossip), and yeah, he’s insanely rich and better off than most of us, I’d argue that’s more of an issue with society in general allowing someone to siphon all that wealth off and not asking for some for itself.

Now, comes the other side. He’s allowed people all over the world, to communicate about issues of IMPORT, through a platform that is ‘for the most part’ an uninterrupted flow of information. (Yes, moderation still happens, yes, it favors one side or another, that always goes on pretty much in any human forum, it’s called bias.) It sometimes gets hacked and data is exposed. No system is truly secure, and the more popular you are, the more enemies you make, and thus the more likely they will try and find a weakness and exploit it.

While you’re talking about ‘violent attacks’, let’s talk about the fact that Facebook has been used by people all over the world under violent government rule to communicate and group up and keep themselves alive, and keep their families alive (Some nations have been shutting off internet access for this reason, to control their populaces.), or for example, during natural disasters, to check on loved ones, or get messages of help out, when they have no other way.

Yeah, you hate this behemoth, and perhaps in some ways, rightfully so (I too hate monopolies.), but you’re not seeing the other side of the picture here.

I’m disabled with a severe social phobia. I have used Facebook for years to communicate because I’m half deaf and half blind and can’t stand communicating on phones because of my phobia. That kind of technology they pioneered has led to things like ‘apps’ for your phones that allow you to just text back and forth, which lead to my being able to communicate while in the hospital and able to ‘speak’ with my mother, during one of the harder times in my life, and not leaving her confused and wondering what is going on.

Chest pains landed me in the hospital. Firy as the sun. Yeah, I’m probably going to ‘Hell’. They didn’t find a solution, or what exactly is causing the problem. Sent me home on a weekend without even the heart monitor because nobody would bring one up because holiday/weekend. I live alone. At least my mother can keep tabs on me, by communicating on Facebook.

They pushed for sending me home for 3 days, either because they needed beds (COVID has the hospitals full/or near to, here ; The ER was full of people who were waiting for a room when I was in there and the waiting room was being used as a ‘If you give up and go home and don’t stick it out, you didn’t really need the help anyway’) or because they didn’t want to run more tests and were waiting for one result that would take a week, and couldn’t figure out what it is and suggested I deal with a few other issues first. (Possible sleep apnea)

I think they were scared to run further tests because I’m DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) and most of the testing they might do could lead to an event they didn’t want to be responsible for. They did manage to notice two tachycardia events, one during a procedure to snip a lymph node in my lung for biopsy (They found an abnormality on catscan) and another while I was lying in bed on their monitor.

It’s just more of the ‘out of sight, out of mind’ mentality…sending me home when I’m not better…people like to treat others that way, like they don’t exist to them unless they are a part of their own personal bubble…

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Turing fail

I would have guessed “sociopath”…

Turing fail
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Turing fail

Well, Mr. Spiner has an actual soul while Zuckface has at best buggy javascripts and biased algorithms.

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Richard de Leon III

so glad i never bought an occulus…

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Greaterdivinity

A sadly predictable turn of events, I’m sure glad that Kickstart can be used to create a popular product that gets bought up by a multi-billion dollar international company with no morals so they can absolutely shit all over the intent of the initial product.

Video is relevant to this topic – https://youtu.be/WpE_xMRiCLE

Leo
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Leo

zuckerberg’s tentacles have been spreading more and more

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Utakata

I read that as testicles somehow. >.<

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MilitiaMasterV

That sounds quite painful. Read up on testicular torsion. It’s a similar concept in the form of pain…

Leo
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Leo

maybe that will be a new game in facebook’s recent gaming initiative