Fallout 76 adds CAMP wheelchairs following a disabled player’s petition

    
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Disabled players aren’t often represented in video games, especially multiplayer online ones that feature nothing but hearty and hale athletes leaping and running through virtual worlds. So even a gesture acknowledging that there are players like this is significant in its own way.

Bethesda provided that gesture this week by adding wheelchairs as an option for player CAMPs (previously, wheelchairs existed in the game world but weren’t housing objects). And while you can’t ride the wheelchair, its inclusion matters a lot to a player named Kelly who petitioned the studio a little while ago with a post that got noticed by a community manager.

“I’m disabled IRL and I would really REALLY love a wheelchair I can place in my C.A.M.P.,” she wrote a month ago. “It would make me so happy to have that little piece of me in my creations. And I think a lot of other people would enjoy it too.”

Following this week’s patch, Kelly thanked both the studio and community for their support: “Without the boost of love reddit gave me when I boosted this, this would’ve never happened. Thank you, THANK YOU!! from the bottom of my heart, I can not explain how much this means.”

Source: Reddit via Kotaku
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Bruno Brito

Altho there’s a lot of sensitivity about a wheelchair being used as a main symbol for the diverse disabilities that exist, i still think it’s a cool idea.

That being said, having a wheelchair in the game doesn’t erase the fact that this game is not as inclusive as it could be. Not having text chat is a “fuck you” to deaf people, the game has several anti-QoL that difficults casual play, and overall, it’s not like the game actually value it’s gamers wholly.

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BalsBigBrother

I swear Bethesda could cure Covid and Cancer but the comments would be full of comments complaining they didn’t do anything about the common cold /sigh

Well done to Bethesda for doing something to make one of your players feel more at home in your game. Whatever you all think the person that made the request is delighted and I am happy for them.

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EmberStar

They’re a major corporation that’s made a habit lately of being generally kind of shitty to their playerbase. It’s nice they did one “not shitty” thing. That doesn’t excuse all the stuff they *have* done, and continue to do.

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BalsBigBrother

Bethesda did a nice thing, it made someone really happy and that is something that should be applauded.

Applauding this one thing doesn’t mean Bethesda are off the hook or they don’t need to keep improving but they got it right here. Sorry if that rustles your jimmies

Even with a story like this If folks are so bitter that they can only see negatives or their first reaction is but what about *insert personal peeve*, well I feel sorry for you all.

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MilitiaMasterV

Cool. A person treating people who are normally treated with disdain, with more disdain, in an article about a person who’s finally gaining some tiny shred of acceptance from a company. /sarcasm

It’s like people never learn…and just keep repeating the same patterns…

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EmberStar

My disdain is and was only ever aimed at Bethesda. A player got something nice. Good for them. But I don’t think Bethesda deserves applause for doing almost the literal definition of “the least they could do.”

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MilitiaMasterV

Wasn’t responding to you. ;)

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MilitiaMasterV

Not all disabilities require a wheelchair, and linking that symbolism while great for certain people, isn’t conducive to others.

Also : Many people who like to joke around/insult people, use props like this in games to build upon their insults/actions/show others their disdain. That’s often the more likely use of things like this in a game, not to show inclusiveness/welcoming to people who are considered ‘different’.

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Rndomuser

Imagine if Bethesda actually cared about what people want to see in this game (instead of pretending to care for good publicity, like in this instance) and allowed players to host their own servers, on their own hardware at home, so anyone can add any art assets and mods to their servers and other players can freely connect to those servers and could enjoy seeing those and using those, without having to rely on popular Reddit posts.

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Eamil

I wasn’t immediately negative about Fallout 76 when I first heard the announcement like a lot of people were.

Half an hour later, when I read about their CAMP model where you aren’t on one server persistently and your base disappears from the world when you log out, that was when it went on my “ignore forever” list. They can’t really sell me on a “rebuilding after the apocalypse” fantasy when my build space is limited and I can’t even reasonably combine it with others to create a settlement because my neighbors’ stuff keeps disappearing.

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Rndomuser

Oh yea, the non-persistent housing is a pretty awful mechanics. I remember I actually bothered building a camp in somewhat popular spot then logging off. After this when I tried to log back in – I kept seeing message that my camp area is already occupied by someone else’s camp and I need to log off and log back in so I would be placed on different instance of the game where this place might not be occupied. Unless I want my camp to be removed from that spot, which I did not want to. After seeing this message for like 6 times in a row – I gave up and went to play a different game.

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SmiteDoctor

While a respect the sentiment from a Game Play and inclusiveness perspective, I’m left wondering how a paraplegic would get by in the world of Fall Out, especially Fall Out 76 which takes place in Appalachia in a rugged, bombed out, irradiated hell hole with mutated murder beasts?

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Leo

Well nothing in Fallout is realistic, plus being a video game, so…

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EmberStar

There’s a fair amount of “mad science” rolling around. If someone was reasonably well off or just had a friend skilled at mad science… I imagine things could actually be easier for them. There’s a couple of versions of direct man-machine brain interface (with the Robobrains being the most extreme example.) And fully functional machine exoskeletons. Just get a mad science friend to hack the frame for a suit of power armor so it responds to nerve impulses instead of mechanical controls and voilla, full body prosthetic.

In fact I think one of the characters in Fallout 4 may have *done* that. One of the Brotherhood of Steel officers who always wore the under-frame of her power armor because her spine got crushed.

There’s also the possibility for hoverchairs (based on Mr Handy thrusters, as an example.) Or just the real world fallback of having friends and family who can help with the stuff it’s not possible to do.

Without leaning on Mad Science someone with disabilities would probably be at maybe the same level as in America in the 1950s. (Buildings without wheelchair access are the norm. Braile and sign language probably still exist, but clearly aren’t common. And so on.)

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Toy Clown

This is a wonderful step forward in creating inclusiveness for an online game. I’m happy to see it and hopefully, it will open doors to creating inclusivity with future game design.

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Rndomuser

If Bethesda cared about “inclusivity” in any way, people would not be forced to rely on add-ons like this to actually be able to communicate with strangers:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76/mods/151

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Fisty

This. Not having text chat is absolutely a middle finger to a large community at this point.

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Toy Clown

Don’t get me wrong: As someone who is deaf in RL, inclusiveness is a huge thing to me. I’ve been part of movements that have appealed to devs to add text chat or to expand text chat. I don’t anymore because I’ve lost a lot of interest in playing MMOs due to how people react to me not being able to use voice, but I still keep an eye on news and cheer when someone wins a battle – no matter how small – to bring this problem to light.

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MilitiaMasterV

See, I’m mostly deaf (I have to read CC to watch shows nowadays or I miss too much that is said.), and partially blind to boot, along with a social phobia that precludes talking on phones(I just…can’t. Unless I’m not thinking about it and just randomly pick up…but those situations make me uncomfortable/anxious even.).

I PREFER text chat, and people often try and force voice chatting. Most businesses won’t converse with you via text, they always just give you a business card with a phone # to call, and when you can’t call, that’s an issue.

Thankfully, my mic on my headphones broke, so I literally have an excuse why I don’t have to online now.

I understand perfectly where you’re coming from.