City State Entertainment’s Final Stand: Ragnarok heralds the arrival of ‘first access’

    
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It’s been some time since we had heard much about Final Stand: Ragnarok, the second game coming from Camelot Unchained developer City State Entertainment; the last we had heard, they were taking on fresh staff. It would appear that silence has been due to the devs putting in work on the title, as a new gameplay video and newsletter have announced the start of “first access” along with gameplay details.

The details come by way of Ragnarok’s first newsletter. In this initial version of the game, players are tasked to defend the town of Odi, protecting towers from waves of Hel’s undead monsters, collecting runes and items to grow in strength, and surviving long enough to hold back Ragnarok. The newsletter also offers a brief peek at the five playable characters and, perhaps more importantly to backers of CU, a word to them directly from Mark Jacobs:

“For those that have kept faith, you will be rewarded both with the things I talked about earlier this year and also with the continued focus on CU. If FS:R is the success we hope it to be, even more people will be hired to work on CU only and your turn to see your game go LIVE will be shorter than you fear it to be.”

So just what is first access? It’s an early access period before early access, effectively. Players should expect variable match sizes that take roughly 40 minutes to complete currently, a number of smaller bugs, and “a lot of frustration at times” as the newsletter puts it. The goal of first access is tie down the core gameplay mechanics, with plans to add questing, combat updates, and additional battlefields as development rolls on. And yes, it’s something that can be bought in to, albeit in limited quantities.

The beginning of first access was also announced in a new gameplay trailer, though it was initially posted online, taken down, and then brought up again with the comments section disabled. A member of the CU Reddit captured some of those comments before they were lost to the digital ether while the thread has since been a hotbed for additional rancor among backers of the original MMO. You can view that video below and judge for yourself.

sources: official newsletter, CSE Store, YouTube, Reddit, cheers Rndomuser!
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Mr Ish

If it helps CU release, great. I’ll give it a try.

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Edward Marks

Also; there is a Camelot Unchained subreddit.

It has since been proven to be moderated by a pathetic human being that uses their access to the subreddit to harass critics of the game. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/CamelotUnchained/comments/j6fsbt/the_moderator_of_this_subreddit_uses_sockpuppets/

The trailer for Ragnarok was posted there after its release, but of course the CSU shill/moderator has since deleted the thread.

Here it is if you would like to view the undeleted comments about the trailer that said CSU shill decided to delete, to help the game developer they are obsessed with avoid criciticsm: https://www.reddit.com/r/CamelotUnchained/comments/kfwxez/recent_city_state_video_comments_section/

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Harbinger_Kyleran

Hey now, two of my.posts got wacked by this deletion….. Time to boil the tar and pluck the chickens.

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pat tat

Hey marc, camelot unchained has been in Beta test phase 1 for over a yr. Is Camelot Unchained, the game i put well over 100$ into, ever coming out? You seem confused by working on two games.

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Drunk3nShaman

Looking forward to playing this.

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Jon Yon

Serious question and concern, maybe Jacobs can address:
The second tier states:
“1) Any DLC, Season/Battle/Saga Pass Content, Champions, maps, etc. developed prior to and released prior to the launch at no additional charge;”
Does that mean you plan on having paid content prior to releasing the game people will have to purchase?

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Cyclone Jack

While I’ve got no horse in this race, it should be pointed out that this is not a “gameplay trailer”. It is a video announcement for early alpha access that apparently went to backers, and someone forwarded the link to MOP (or someone at MOP is a backer and shared the video).

There is a difference between taking a few clips of some random in-game footage, slapping some text on it, and sending out to backers as an announcement to say, “Hey, we’ve got something playable, and we want to share it”, and a proper gameplay trailer that is accompanied by public press releases. Spending more time on this video would have been a proper waste of time.

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Rndomuser

No, something that should be “pointed out” to you in particular. Take a look at the screenshot. This is where I got the video from. It is on public website, nothing to do with “went to backers” BS, clearly labeled as “trailer” and clearly demonstrates “gameplay”. Any rational person will be able to comprehend the reason why it exist – it is used to entice people (not only backers or newsletter subscribers) to click on “Buy Now” button next to it. If you think otherwise and believe that “spending more time on proper trailer would be a waste” despite the button for it being right next to “Buy Now” button – then I feel very sorry for you.

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rk70534

To be honest, haven’t you anything better to do? What you have done here now for months about CU is at best obsessive and border-line harassment. At best.

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Rndomuser

haven’t you anything better to do

Yes, I do. Need to replace Arctic Freezer 34 CO on my 5800x CPU, the temps get up to 87C when running latest Cinebench R23 which is a little bit higher than I prefer, so I already have received a replacement by Noctua, NH-U12S. Also need to order touchscreen replacement for my Pixel 4XL from iFixit, mine has oleophobic coating worn off and poor touch sensitivity and the warranty has ended so I will be doing it myself. And need to replace old range hood in a kitchen, the replacement has already arrived, nothing fancy, Broan BCSD124SS. Also need to access office remotely and check some QuickBooks stuff done by other person there. Lots of thing to do, that doesn’t mean I can’t spend few times relaxing with my laptop and typing stuff on internet.

What you have done here now for months about CU

What I have done here for months is warn people about CSE’s behavior, which I personally consider dishonest and inappropriate (mostly because I am trapped still waiting for refund, most likely because they cannot afford issuing the refund to everyone who requested it and they are still being dishonest about reasons they cannot do it). I don’t think there is anything wrong with warning people about potential issues they may face. What other people do with the warning is not my concern – they may still invest all their life savings into this company’s products, everyone is free to make their own choice. And, of course, also to observe the company destroy itself through their own behavior – I do not believe there is anything wrong with having a few laughs about it, similar to laughing when watching a YouTube video of some person tripping over some objects or stepping on the rake.

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rk70534

Please stop obsessing about CU and let Jacobs be here. Constructive criticism, and even bitter disappoinment if not taken too far is ok, but you have basically gone off the rails. Just stop and concentrate on something you enjoy, this is unhealthy.

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Bruno Brito

Nothing of what you said here sounded relaxing, man. Chill a bit. We know not getting refunds sucks, and yes, Jacobs is totally wrong for not just getting his office PC into his home and to just be done with the refunds.

But just because it’s on a public part you think the MAIN focus of the trailer, of this yikes-worthy trailer, is to get players? It’s literally to showcase the engine’s power and they just put it in their website.

It’s to get investors.

Dude, the matter of the fact is that considering how unhappy people are at the CU threads, all you need to do is to keep pointing out you’re not getting refunds. You really don’t need to just drop into this quasi-stalkerish behavior.

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Cyclone Jack

I’m sorry you feel sorry for me, but I appreciate your concern. :)

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Rndomuser

I appreciate your concern

I appreciate you too.

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dinarian_

They are also now selling access, so that isn’t just some clips for backers of CU.

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Edward Marks

Looks like they’ve disabled comments and likes/dislikes being viewable.

This company really doesn’t respond well to negative feedback.

Their obsession with both of their games having some absurd number of max players or NPCs active or on screen at once reminds me of the Atari Jaguar. Buy the Atari Jaguar! The first and only console available with 64 bits (players on screen at once). Bits are all that matters and that silly Sony Playstation won’t be able to hold our jock!

This is not 1995, or even 2005. The fact that your game is going to have (record sectting # of bots/players/npcs) means nothing if the games aren’t fun.

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Bruno Brito

This is not 1995, or even 2005. The fact that your game is going to have (record sectting # of bots/players/npcs) means nothing if the games aren’t fun.

True, but there will be a number of investors that will look at that and ask themselves how to make a game out of it.

I honestly think people are putting the horses behind the cart here.

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Edward Marks

True, but there will be a number of investors that will look at that and ask themselves how to make a game out of it.

Do you seriously think that this miniscule company is doing something that only they can produce? This is also hilarious. Even if CSU manage to create some game engine they can claim runs with maximum ever NPC’s/players, yada yada… that does not stop another company from outdoing them in no time flat.

But let’s ignore that. Can you right now name the /current/ game engine that supports maximum number of players/npc’s/what the fuck ever is claimed? Because for all CSU is claiming they’re going to do.. there HAS to be a current game engine that is the current leader in on screen players/bots/yada yada yada…

I definitely can’t. I mean,, I’m sure there is some engine that exists which is able to make this claim… So tell me… why is said current game engine, whatever engine it is… not.. 1. Known by all and super popular. 2. Being used exclusively to make MMO’s?

Oh that’s right… because even if an engine that did nothing other than provide a way to provide devs access to /THE/ only engine that can support X number of players…. IT MEANS NOTHING WITHOUT GOOD GAMEPLAY

But yeah. When CSU overtakes said unknown game engine which currently supports the maximum (insert irrelevant # here), they are going to prove all the haters right!

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Edward Marks

I meant “prove all the haters wrong” my bad.

But again, feel free to research and let me know the current game engine that boasts what CSU plans to in the future boast. And about how the fact that their game engine can produce most on screen players or NPCs, etc., and as a result has endless number of game Devs clamoring for their engine for no other reason .

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Munchmeat2

This will be DOA. Who is the target audience for this?

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Rndomuser

Who is the target audience for this

No idea. Most likely they are targeting all the games with horde mode, or survival mode. Problem is, there are already a lot of them, from Minecraft which has zombie invasions to L4D2 to CoD zombie mode to Killing Floor 2 and many others. Even upcoming New World have this mode. Even SMITE is kind of like that (if you consider that the game essentially spawns the endless mobs which try to attack you), and SMITE already has over 100 heroes you can play. And some of those games already have PvP in an addition to PvE, providing more options to people with different preferences.

The segment for these type of games is already oversaturated, and you have to add something really unique for people to even consider trying your game. And Ragnarok doesn’t really have anything, except the “our engine can support billions of NPCs”, which doesn’t really matter for these types of games (you can fully compensate for lower amount of NPCs through various mechanics like faster spawn time, unique NPC abilities which make them harder to kill or just increasing their health pool). Even if their engine can support 1000’s of players this also does not matter because nobody is gonna wait for the queue to fill with all those players to start the instanced match and most people will be happy just playing in small team of players due to shorter queues, which all current games can already do.

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Bruno Brito

Mark, i hope you get what you need to deliver CU in a timely manner, but maaaaaaan, you spending time here and not just paying the refunds and getting better PR hurts you badly in the long run.

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Richard Bogart

This is hilarious, what a cheaply made trailer. The text in cancerously bright colors and a cheap font just poofs into the screen. The video is 30 fps (why??). Like 50% of the video content is just a guy swinging his axe around NPCs repeatedly. The pathetic attempt at self-deprecating humor to cover up their failure (“see, we KNOW we suck so it’s okay! haha!”.

And of course, the censorship that is to be expected from MJ (disabling comments and like/dislike retroactively).

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Rndomuser

Yea, the humor they have tried to put in – it doesn’t look amusing, it just looks sad, considering the contents of the video. I mean, they only have 5 heroes and even with such small amount, they were too lazy to even show any actions for some of them. Take a look at Jalb al-Sulh in the video, the character just… stands without doing anything. They could’ve at least used it to swing a sword or a shield or do some other abilities like they did with other heroes.

I understand that CSE employees can be busy with work, but they could’ve just asked their fans to create much better trailer for them, I’m sure there would be people willing to do that, even voice it, then just mention that this trailer was created by a fan in credits.

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Edward Marks

Stop hating on the heroes, man. We got to see the hero Bjorn-StandardVikingMan Name do his patented upper torso only, 360 degree axe attack 3 dozen times. The way he swings that axe while his hips and the body below don’t move even a little… Just magnificent.

I mean they /could/ have taken about an hour and made the character simply do a 360 spin animation. Even a god awful looking one would look better than the hilariously bad one in the trailer… but that would have taken away from the core gameplay of being rushed by masses of terrible AI skeletons.