EVE Online’s Grand Heist update goes live as players raise concerns about ISK login rewards for subscribers

    
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Yesterday saw the bank robbing profession come to EVE Online as the Grand Heist update officially went live. Readers will recall that this update is effectively letting players become bank robbers thanks to new gameplay features that let them crack open reserve banks and lift some sweet ISK.

Of course, if you’re a subscriber, you could always just get some ISK by logging in to the game. The new update is also adding in a daily login reward event that runs between now and August 3rd, handing out boosters to free players and free ISK to Omega clones – subscribers who login for at least six days will get a total of 235M in ISK. On top of that, there will be a reduction of in-game market fees and taxes for the next three months.

This has raised a number of concerns among some players who believe that this short-term cash infusion will lead to inflation or others who are outright insulted by the promotion. Fellow blogger Wilhelm Arcturus of The Ancient Gaming Noob writes that the amount, while not insignificant, isn’t quite enough to get him to resubscribe lapsed accounts, and the effects of this new cash infusion into the game’s economy probably won’t be noticed until July or August’s monthly econ reports, if they’re noticed at all.

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Bango on Laurelin

The issue isn’t the login rewards – the fundamental problem is that null is largely stagnant with insufficient destruction to drive industry and push warfare for access to resources. All these high-sec events that give players money for a bit of pve is just nonsense given the core gameplay should be about warfare over territory.

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Nosy Gamer

I’d have to defer to Wilhelm on this, since he’s the guy who’s involved in the big war right now. How far will 235 million ISK go towards helping individual players keep fighting? The word is that some alliances are cash strapped and slow in giving out SRP (ship replacement program) money to replace losses.

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Paul

Not far at all – regular ships cost 300m-400m (capitals run in the billions). 235m is only a large number to very new players and a drop in the ocean for long term established players.

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Bango on Laurelin

If an alliance is cash strapped then they deserve to fail.

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Wilhelm Arcturus

Economically speaking, if I needed the ISK, spending $15 to resubscribe for 235 million ISK would fall well behind just buying $20 worth of PLEX, which can be sold in game at current market prices for about 1.2 billion ISK.

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Bango on Laurelin

Indeed. I do wonder whether the people moaning actually play the game.

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somber_bliss

EvE has always been p2w with people able to buy PLEX and sell it for isk, why are people calling foul over this?

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Wilhelm Arcturus

A) PLEX hasn’t been around since launch, so no.

B) CCP has been trying to clamp down on the economy for the last 18 months, nerfing ISK faucets and making things more expensive, so suddenly handing out 235m ISK seems like a complete about face.

C) Simply handing out in-game currency is kind of an oddity in MMORPGs. It happens all the time in free to play mobile games, but WoW and EverQuest don’t just hand out gold or platinum. And CCP, while it has been doing daily login rewards for a few years now, has always made it so that they either cannot be sold for ISK (consumed on claim) or have no real value on the in-game market.

Basically, it is a strange move without precedent, so many players are more “WTF?” than complaining so far as I have seen.

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Aaron Weddle

this and the fairly toxic null sec communities is another reason i quit playing EVE after 15 years after being in the imperium for basically all of the first world war bee. the eviction from dek and then the creation of the fortress of delve. in Delve We were rolling in isk but then CCP started nerfing things and shit. i just cant be bothered to pay actual money for my EVE subs and if they are gonna make it harder to get isk for plex then fuck em

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Bango on Laurelin

1. I’ve been playing Eve since late 2010 and Plex was a feature. So 10+ years is plenty of time for it to be an ingrained feature.

2. If you think 235m isk is comparable to what can be earned in null by ratting or muiltibox mining then you need to download the game and start playing.

3. What is the difference between A) An Omega account getting 235m isk for their sub, and 2) An alpha getting approx 1bn for 20% more cost?

The precedent of getting isk for cash with little gameplay has been long established in the game. Perhaps if you played it you would know.