Another War Thunder player leaked classified military documents to win a forum argument

Yes, it happened again

    
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Back in July, we shared the astonishing news of one War Thunder fan and UK service member who wanted developer Gaijin Entertainment to make the British Challenger 2 tank more realistic, using classified military documents to prove his point. We surely thought that this was just a one-off sort of goof-up that would never happen again.

We were wrong. We were all wrong.

An argument on the game’s official forums regarding the accurate depiction of the French Leclerc Main Battle Tank in-game saw a member of the French army and a reported former crew member of a Leclerc post classified documents of the vehicle’s specs in order to win the ongoing argument. Apparently, turret rotation was the trigger for this bit of leaking of military secrets.

As before, moderators quickly began to scrub the thread and warned once more against posting sensitive military material. “Guys its not funny to leak classified documents of modern equipment you put the lives of many on stake who work daily with the vehicles,” reads a moderator’s post. “Keep in Mind that those documents will be deleted immediately alongside sanctions.”

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Bruno Brito

This is honestly starting to seem like more of the military being bad at keeping secrets. I’ve been watching this combat vet playing TF2 and reaction videos ( MHGR, i recommend it ), and he mentions how incredibly full of bureocracy the military is and how in several spots, things slip because of incompetence and said bureocracy.

I’m also with Ember/Other here. A lot of these “secrets” are just manual things about their weapons that good research would find anyway, but since we’re civvies, we’re “not privy to it”.

I don’t think having these dick-waving contests with classified info in a forum is good, nor do i think War Thunder SHOULD consider using the info to make their designs, even if it’s something easily found. What i think it should happen is that the military should start realizing what kind of info gets shared and if it’s anything touchy/sensitive to be known by any kind of recruit/private.

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EmberStar

So this is apparently a thing that happens pretty regularly, I guess.

First: Some people really, really need to WIN everything.

Second: The military needs to be a lot more clear to their employees on what is and is not classified. If it’s also apparently true that these “classified” documents are treated basically the same as the owner’s manual for a car and are something that will simply be left lying around in a maintenance area or on a desk.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I’m 110% sure that winning the argument was worth it.

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Other Blank

Classified military secrets is what we call basically any military manual. And yet you can easily google and look up the base level 10 of them all. Taking pictures inside your tank are against op-sec, but there’s entire tv shows based around being inside modern day ones. All a bit pointless to be taken seriously .

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Aaron Weddle

TV shows and Movies Work with Publicly available information and military consultants the layouts of TV ships or Tanks are Not an Exact replica its an approximation Given on what is known at the time and what the military is willing to let out.

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Stormwaltz

Sometimes I wonder if Gaijin is actually an exceptionally clever Russian intelligence operation.

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Aaron Weddle

well not very Clever The Russians Armada Tank cant even parade down red square without having engine trouble. then that time a few years ago they had that Ship that had to limp home. trust me the Russians are all bark and no bite

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Seth

Foreign adversaries spend billions on military intelligence when obviously all they really need to do is piss off some War Thunder players.

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MassivelyMacD

Do you believe they don’t know these secrets already? Like, turret rotation details of a tank?