Fortnite settles one of its anti-cheater lawsuits out of court

If you’d forgotten, Fortnite wound up bringing a lawsuit against two people for cheating software being used in the game. One such suit hit a wrinkle when it turned out that the defendant was a minor, which has yet to be resolved. The other suit is all done and over with, though, as the developer has reportedly agreed to an out-of-court settlement regarding the lawsuit against Charles Vraspir.

The terms of the settlement forbid Vraspir from taking any actions similar to his prior ones, with a $5,000 penalty if he is found in breach of the agreement. The bright side for him is that he won’t have to pay a fine at all so long as he sticks to the terms of his agreement, so we can only hope for his own sake that he does so. It’s a somewhat anticlimactic ending to that particular matter, but probably the best one for all concerned parties.

Source: Gamasutra
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ihatevnecks
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ihatevnecks

BTW Massively, they brought lawsuits against four individuals, not two. Two on October 10th, one of which was Charles Vraspir; a third (the minor) on October 23rd, and the final on November 10th. Here are three of the four, minus the minor’s.

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2017cv00512/160125

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2017cv00511/160124

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/north-carolina/ncedce/5:2017cv00554/160600

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Zora

I know I am a dinosaur, but hearing about…companies bringing to court people for cheating in their videogames…

This is surreal (and somehow dystopian) just enough to satisty my youthful, cyberpunk-addicted past self but I frankly imagined the “future” with way more flying cars, androids and “skies the colour of a television set on a dead channel”

Max Headroom mused that by 2008 misappropriation would be considered worse than homicide. Seems reality beat fiction!

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Dystopiq

Bringing them to court for breaking the terms of the agreement for online services and ruining it for others. Good enough reason to sue them.

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CMDR Crow

I’m disappointed they didn’t countersue for identifying the minor. That shows immense negligence and poor process on the side of Fortnight’s legal team. Though I’m sure that was what made the leap to a non-punitive settlement.

Fortnight’s actions were seriously amateur hour. They’re lucky they didn’t get hit hard. I could conceptually come up with a number of scenarios where damages claimed by the kid would include lifetime earning hits due to the illegal naming and identification.

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Jack Pipsam

The boy named himself though online before this whole case, he outed himself before Epic sued.
That’s the raw reality of the internet, any tween/teen worth their salt has at least a few social media accounts which most likely are linked to their real name if not even their real picture.

But even if we pretend that he didn’t already reveal his true identity previously, I am doubtful that even if Epic alone did sprung him publicly, that this in the long-term will have a major effect on his life simply because his name is out there.

In ten years time if you google his name it may or may-not bring up search results related to a video game cheating thing, I am not sure if the local supermarket will care.
Even then, fuck him. About time cheaters got their due, regardless of age.

Old enough to willing cheat the game then after repeated warnings still keep doing shit, old enough to face the music.
He isn’t on death row, he won’t to jail or anything so whatever. Oh no his name is on the internet, big whoop, you can find a billion names on the internet.

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Dystopiq

This isn’t a criminal case. It’s a civil one.

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CMDR Crow

It doesn’t matter in the US (I know you’re from Australia, right?)

It is decidedly and 100% illegal for them to name a minor, regardless of the minor’s actions.

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ihatevnecks

It is absolutely *not* illegal for them to name a minor in a copyright case, because minors are allowed to own copyright. There are only certain types of cases, most commonly related to family law, where it’s “illegal” to publish the name of a minor in the case.

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Jack Pipsam

Then that’ll be up for the judge/jury to figure out, but I think that’s just outdated thinking in an era where you’ll let a lot of bad stuff slip through with no real consequence if you rigidly uphold that line of thinking.

My real name (Mark Davenport) was out there on my bloody MySpace account when I was 12 and it’s been floating about ever since on various platforms, I basically signed over anonymity IMO when I put anything out there publicly with my name willingly attached and this kid went full public.
Even is Epic didn’t name him, people still know who did it, it’s almost disingenuous to act like it’s some big mystery.

Sure it’s entirely possible the mother crying fowl might end up actually working in his favour, but personally I hope Epic wins anything against them. I don’t tolerate cheaters.

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zeko_rena

The good old days of MySpace… I have tried to delete most of those memories from my mind LOL

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CMDR Crow

No. No.

There’s a difference between everything you’re saying and the actual legal situation. There’s honestly nothing to add. This is about the legal situation under US law, only.

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Jack Pipsam

But you want Epic to lose right? You’re “disappointed they didn’t countersue”.
If you want to get real black & white, if you want Epic to lose that’s basically siding with the kid who’s cheating.
Whatever man, i’m going to sleep. Screw cheaters and I hope they all rot.

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CMDR Crow

Where did I say I wanted “Epic to lose” …?

I want slapshod and poor corporate legal work to reap what was sewn. And it is quite serious to name a minor in connection with a crime without legal clearance, usually from the courts.

I want corporations to be held accountable when they fire off poorly-researched lawsuits like a shotgun spread. I mean, this also pokes into a lot of IP law and such that isn’t really at center, here.

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Jack Pipsam

Regardless of the end result, if his name remains forever out there in relation to this, good. That might end up being some kind of justice even if the court is weak.
Seems rather fitting to me, I won’t be giving his so desired free-pass. For cosmic justice Epic might have won even if they officially lose.

If he thinks twice now before being a dick, worth it.

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zeko_rena

“If he thinks twice now before being a dick, worth it.”

Fully agree, children are let off way too easy these days with no real consequences, then when they get away with it young they carry it on for the rest of there life.

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CMDR Crow

The vindictive and vengeful commentariat here really makes me uncomfortable sometimes. Over VIDEO GAMES.

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zeko_rena

I am talking in general, I am just using this as an example, not saying this only applies to or happens in video games.

But the way I look at it is like this.

Lets say a child starts cheating in video games, and gets away with it without consequence, what other aspects of life is he or she going to start thinking they can start cheating in and its okay?

I do apologize if my view on things has made you uncomfortable, that is not my intention.

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Bruno Brito

> Lets say a child starts cheating in video games, and gets away with it without consequence, what other aspects of life is he or she going to start thinking they can start cheating in and its okay?

Calm down a bit. Everything stops somewhere. I had friends cheat on games, and they are not bad people. They just find their fun a bit differently. Yeah, it’s irritating when it’s at other’s expenses, but not thaaaat alarming.

The issue here is that cheating actually derides other people’s experiences. So the lawsuits are actually called for.

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zeko_rena

“Everything stops somewhere”
That sentence makes me chuckle. I wish I knew why haha

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Desius

Lesson du jour: Minors can do what they want and get away with it and, as far as punitive action against game hackers, the gaming industry has no teeth.

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