EA patches Star Wars Battlefront 2 as petition asking Lucasfilm to drop EA reaches 120K sigs

How hard is EA trying to salvage its rep hit from the Star Wars Battlefront 2 drama? It’s hard to judge right now. This week, the game will patch up with tweaks for economy and progression, complete with improved end-of-round payouts (something players complained about bitterly when EA tooted its horn about reducing the cost of heroes while simultaneously reducing payouts and not mentioning that part because EA is sneaky like that). The patch will also generate for players more daily credits from arcade mode and daily login freebies (still crates, though). New characters, including Finn and Phasma, debut as well.

Some gamers, however, are not appeased. There’s at least one petition floating around right now trying to convince Disney subsidiary Lucasfilm to revoke EA’s license to pump out Star Wars games because EA has “proven to [its] consumers that [it] honestly [doesn’t] care about the gameplay experience or content” and instead would “rather rush out a game that will try [to] milk as much money out of consumers as possible.” It’s not the most convincingly crafted petition in the world, but it nevertheless has 120,000 signers so far.

Source: Official site, Change.org. Thanks, Castagere!
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Carebear

signed!

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Cypher

Meh, that petition is like complaining to the lion that the cheetah keeps trying to eat you…

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2Ton Gamer

I just don’t see 100,000 signatures making Disney drop one of the biggest gaming companies ever. It was a debacle and it’s caused some financial turmoil and bad press but to just cut ties, I don’t see it happening.

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amkosh

Oh, I can definitely see Disney dropping EA. I wouldn’t be surprised if 2018 we see SWTOR get cut off by Disney, and pretty much every non mobile title get the axe.

Oh, don’t get it? Disney won’t just drop EA, they’ll drop pretty much ALL publishers and not license to make any game. Disney doesn’t need games, they can make all the revenue they need out of their cash printing machines called Star Wars movies, and Marvel movies.

If EA can’t figure out how to get good monetization (and more importantly, stable growth in it), then Disney’s not going to have much use for them. Disney won’t do it themselves, remember they couldn’t keep their AR toys stuff consistently growing, even after they kicked their competition’s ass. So I doubt you’ll see much in any SW/Marvel game for the foreseeable future. Or at least until someone figures out how to reopen gamer’s pocketbooks.

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John Kiser

I think disney would be in breach of contract then as they have a multi year contractual agreement. Disney might have a harder time reigning in licenses for past games as well because they are already made and done and EA has money enough to fight back and smarter lawyers than gazillion has. While Disney may drop future agreements it is unlikely particularly if EA can reign in controversy, but then again players are blowing the whole thing massively out of proportion to a degree.

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Jeffrey Meade

The biggest problem with the petition is the mistaken belief that Disney didn’t know exactly what EA was doing with Battlefront 2 the whole time it was in development. They are not going to pull the IP from EA when they are also complicit in the stupidity. They only care now because its negative PR that they don’t need with the new movie about to come out.

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OneEyeRed

(Popcorn) for watching the forum grammar police argue about stupid shit.

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Sorenthaz

It’s still bad even with the changes, they’re quite frankly not enough and there’s still indications that they’ll simply be bringing back Crystals to pay for these boxes again in the future.

All they really did was make it slightly more bearable. Also the Arcade mode daily credits isn’t as good as it sounds; you still only get 100 credits per match (sometimes a bit more depending on length I think) but now you can play up to 15 matches and get credits rather than playing 5 matches and getting credits. So it’s good for grinding out the Arcade challenges but not really worth it for actually grinding credits.

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Dug From The Earth

The recent changes EA made to the daily loot boxes and end game credits, while better, are still laughable at best.

Imagine if the lines at Disney Land were 15 hours long. Then imagine if they improved things by making them only 12 hours long. You cant negate the fact that there is an improvement… but its still 12 freaking hours to get on a ride.

Added to the fact, that the increases to the daily and end match rewards only increase the frequency that you can get an RNG box to attempt to progress. Its still frelling RNG! EA just doesnt get it.

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amkosh

The thing is, you’re paying way less per hour for that game, and you are (in theory) having fun during those sessions to get stuff. Can’t say many people have fun in line for a ride while they stand and wait.

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Sray

“Dear Walt Disney Corporation,

Please dump your carefully selected business partner who was monetizing Star Wars games in a way that you were fully aware of, approved of, and only stopped when it looked like it was going to cause bad publicity for your next movie.

Signed,
Gamers who haven’t bothered asking why SWTOR and Star Wars Commander still have monetized lootbox progression”

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Sarcasm aside, I appreciate the effort, but this is really barking up the wrong tree. As I’ve said a few times now, Disney is not your friend. They have been fully complicit in how EA has monetized Star Wars games, and they only intervened when it looked like might cost them more money to leave it alone. The Lucasfilm story group is in constant contact with game developers over everything -only Games Workshop is more obsessive about how you portray their IP- and Disney reps have fully signed off on everything that EA has done. I wish it were otherwise, but it’s about as likely that Disney will let Mickey Mouse start swearing as them dumping EA.

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Dug From The Earth

Both those other games are “legit” F2P games.

The issue at hand with SW BF2… was that its a full 60 dollar premium game, with additional monetized lootboxes.

I do agree that trying to get Disney to pull their license is a bit much though… How about Disney just put extra pressure on them, to do things a better way instead?

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amkosh

To make enough money to satisfy their license and regular growth numbers, they probably need the box fee to be in the 100-120$ range. It is simple as that.

Also EA and Disney are public companies. IF they don’t do everything possible to make their numbers, then their owners will at best leave em for better investments, or at worst will sue them for not doing their jobs.

Non public companies have a bit more freedom, they can just accept less profit or even a loss (if they can bear it, not many really can)

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Sray

The issue for many -including myself- is lootboxes, period. But regardless of one’s opinion on lootboxes, the fact is there is no way Disney didn’t know what was going on.

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Gaius Cavadus

SWTOR is not a legitimate F2P game. The restrictions on free accounts are virtually unparalleled in the modern MMO scene.

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Dug From The Earth

Highly subjective

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Bruno Brito

^

If it profits, it works. Unparalleled or not.

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Bryan Turner

I signed it.

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pepperzine

As did I. Thanks MoP for letting me know this petition exists.

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Chrisanne

Even though I’m actually enjoying BF2, I signed it because of what EA did to the story driven game that was being developed by Visceral, so EA could turn it into another of their “games as a service”.

Right, because turning something halfway finished, into something completely different on the fly, always works out so well…

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Jaymes Buckman

I mean . . . “Overwatch”?

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Dug From The Earth

Thats like saying Blizzard turned their RTS game directly into a 3d MMORPG.

They didnt. They turned their game universe, that existed as an RTS, into a mmorpg.

There is a difference

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Zora

The most expensive arena shooter ever made!

I mean sure blizzard turned a loss into profits, they can sell fridges to eskimos and we know… but aiming for a MMORPG and ending up with…that thing.

Commercial success story absolutely. Development-wise?… wouldn’t be too proud of it.

Kaplan isn’t for sure, still stuck in the penalty pit for goofin it all

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Loopy

lolwut? Overwatch devs should not be proud of their work? Overwatch is one of the funnest arena shooters on the market right now, and is shaping up to be an enormous esports giant with multimillion dollar sponsorships across the globe. Not to mention millions of people actually playing the damn game.

But yeah, it’s a bust because it didn’t turn into an MMO.

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Zora

No, it’s a “bust” (your words, not mines) because they assign you the resources to develop a fully-fledged MMORPG and years of nothingness later all you come up with is a flashy arena shooter that could have happened with one tenth of the budget, resources and time investment.

That the company managed to steer the ship and turn a loss into profit has nothing to do with the game’s troubled development. McDonald is the most successful food chain the world, with sponsorships and billions of daily customers… I still somehow doubt the chemists who came up with the recipes have merit to be proud of the “food” /cough

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Loopy

I highly recommend watching this multi-part youtube doc on development of Overwatch, if you want to understand the dynamics behind its development.

Overwatch is not the product of the MMO project that was known as Titan. Titan has failed, and was never morphed into anything else. Overwatch was a brand new project that was initiated as a result of this failure, to build something new and reinvigorate the dev team that was at its lowest point morale-wise. And once you see the pride on their faces as its unveiled during one of the Blizzcons, you will see that there is plenty to be proud of.

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Bruno Brito

I loathe Overwatch and i can’t disagree with you.

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Jaymes Buckman

Which aspect concerns EA more?

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zeko_rena

I signed it, doubt it will have any impact but you never know.

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rafael12104

Ah, a good old gamer’s petition. About as effective as standing out in the rain, hoping not to get wet.

But kudos to those that have it up. But, meh, the verbiage is akin to old complaints about EA.

What was needed is a laser focus on predatory business practices. The targeting of young consumers. The misdirection, deflection and lies denying their intentions.

But I suppose there is still time and opportunity. And I would love, just love, a few lawyers worth their salt to craft something. I’ve seen class actions for much less. And btw, you don’t have to win the suit to affect some sort of change.

As for the patch? Well, I’m not playing the game so I don’t know the good the bad or they ugly. But I’m quite sure Reddit and the people here following this will let us know what is what.

One question. Does this update put lootboxes back into progression?

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Grave Knight

You know who I would love to see make a Star Wars video game? Square Enix. If you don’t agree go play Kingdom Hearts.

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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Melissa McDonald

Meh, that’s 5% compared to sales. Doubt it will bring that much change.

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Armsbend

“proven to [its] consumers that [it] honestly [doesn’t] care about the gameplay experience or content” and instead would “rather rush out a game that will try [to] milk as much money out of consumers as possible.”

I might have gone so far as to sign a petition, which I never do, if the original petitioner didn’t write like an uneducated, petulant child. When you have to fill in that many pronouns and conjunctions then does anyone really think anyone will take them seriously? The petition sounds like, and is, a rant.

It’s really the reason why gamers will never be taken seriously. The majority come off as mental midgets when the intellectual titans sit back and comment on forums letting other people steal their ideas and make youtube videos earning themselves a caree…

I forgot what I was talking about.

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Bryan Turner

Regardless I signed the petition, I have no doubt my grammar bad.

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Rolan Storm

:D Nice one.

And I am not that picky, so I signed. While I agree with everything you say at the end of the day it is action that counts.

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Alex Hyer

Is he even American?

I mean, I don’t know if English is his first language. If its not, then he’s doing a hell of a lot better at writing in English than I would in whatever language IS his native.

If English IS his first language, I really don’t care if he types poorly. I read his message and I understood what he was saying.

The Petition is more important than his grammar, either way.

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Armsbend

I think he is. The petition read like he was so overwhelmed with anger and thoughts that it came off as disjointed. He isn’t dumb though you can tell by the fact he did the research. That is fine when no one is reading but EA might actually read this one with 120K signatures. Because of the writing it’s conference room bulletin board material. They are mocking it – I’d bet the eternal soul of everyone here (except me).

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Crowe

“I might have gone so far as to sign a petition, which I never do, if the original petitioner didn’t write like an uneducated, petulant child.”
You nailed it. While I sympathize with the sentiment and agree with the argument in principle, I can’t put sign my name to a rant like that.

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Zora

I forgot what I was talking about.

I forgot too but it likely had to do with mass deportations of some non-descript category of perpetrators to the salt mines of mars or similar destinations where life is brutal, cheap and short?

Poor martians, we should stop taking their jobs.

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Alex Js.

LOL, “petitions”… Vote with your wallets, people, not those silly, childish “change.org” thingies. That’s the ONE and ONLY thing the corporations will react to.

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Zora

Beyond some PR they won’t react to that either, because the activism-to-buyerism ratio among consumers is rather low when dealing with brands of the magnitude of starwars. Even among those who are unhappy about the monetization, I argue not -too- many are unhappy enough to skip a game they might have been waiting for for a long time… when all teir buddies are having fun with it… right on the even of mucho starwars-y-ness with the new movie and all.

We are addicts to our own fun. It’s primarily entertainment and the amount of people willing to pollute their corner of escapism with “politics” and activism are I am afraid lower than we hope.

And every big company knows that all too well.

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Castagere Shaikura

I haven’t bought an EA game since they bought out Westwood. Now that’s voting with your wallet

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MeltWithYou

…I miss Westwood :(

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Zora

I believe Disney is incapable of noticing figures below the hundred-of-millions entities but even if they were, I’d surmise the only “petition” they would consider worthy of attention in regards to strategical decisions to such a high level would be one coming from their own investors, legitimately enough.

I just would rather make away with having to deal with the company altogether as a consumer, but telling them whom to partner with without having invested in their shares… will skip that, couldn’t care less what manner of criminal cartel they want to get snuggly with, one is worth the other to me :P

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Ashfyn Ninegold

That may be so but they do notice when their brand is tarnished. No one protects their kids-friendly brand like Disney does. This debacle has reflected badly on Disney and made them the bad guy. It’s Disney versus kiddie entertainment. That is never a position Disney wants to be in because in time it will erode their profits.

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Castagere Shaikura

It probably won’t come to anything but heck why not sign it i say.

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