Blizzard shakes up Hearthstone with a new game mode

In a competitive card game like Hearthstone, the developer has to keep releasing new cards each year to keep things interesting. This comes with a variety of problems, such as increasing the learning curve for new players and increasing the number of cards players need to purchase before they can put together a viable deck. Developers also often have trouble coming up with new cards that aren’t outperformed by existing cards, and find it difficult to shake up the metagame.

To combat this, Blizzard has announced the creation of a new game mode named Standard in which players can use only cards released in the past two years in addition to basic and classic cards. The current gameplay is being repackaged as Wild mode, which allows any cards to be used. The coming year will also see balance changes to basic cards, and players will get an extra 9 deck slots so that they can have separate Wild and Standard decks. Read on for a video from Lead Designer Ben Brode with an explanation of why this change is necessary for the future health of Hearthstone.

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Skyewauker
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Skyewauker

Jackasa Skyewauker Midgetsnowman Lhumierre Do you even reading comprehension?  Thats exactly what I am saying lol.
They need a boost to dust or crafting cost , at least on older sets.  They could use the same model blizzard does with WoW and new expacs.  Cut the cost of older packs / cards.

CloakingDonkey
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CloakingDonkey

Definitely a good change. Hearthstone had one of the most stale meta games I’ve ever seen in a CCG. I mean there are literally decks that have been viable since it went into beta 3 years ago… With this, I might actually jump into constructed again. Now all I’d like to see is a new limited format and/or an overhaul to Arena because Arena is way too random at this point.

Denngar
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Denngar

Detton Huxys This is actually why I stopped playing Magic the Gathering. We’ll see what happens when things go live though.

Jackasa
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Jackasa

Skyewauker Midgetsnowman Lhumierre

Your delusional if you think you will save up enough because it will not be easy for newbies because the meta will move every year when your still trying to collect the sets while the cards you do have will be invalidated.

Jackasa
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Jackasa

Detton Huxys
It will be Standard and nothing because no one is going to play wilds besides those that have all those older sets.  New players and the vast majority will be playing standard, so will everyone that is competitive.

Rip.

mysecretid
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mysecretid

pcgneurotic mysecretid 
You know, neuro, I realize that’s exactly what I did; I conflated the two games in my head, somewhere along the line.
Thanks! And thanks for giving me the opportunity to use the word “conflated” in a sentence. :-D
Good to see you posting here again — I haven’t seen your comments around as much lately. Hope all is well.
Cheers,

Madda
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Madda

Thus is the way with Online TCGs.

DPandaren
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DPandaren

Greaterdivinity Lhumierre Hearthstone does have a MTG pedigree though. Since it was based off of the WoWTCG, which was developed by people who developed some of the sets for MTG. Now those people are off with their own CG.

Detton
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Detton

heliaxb TraylorAlan Well, Classic and Basic cards will always be valid, so those won’t go out.   If you don’t have a full Classic collection, now is a good time to fill it out since you won’t ever lose them in Standard.
You’ve always had to keep up with packs, though, or you get dramatically left behind.  That’s how CCGs work i’m afraid, unless they’re stagnant.

Detton
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Detton

BritoBruno Madda The Salt King of Chicago!

Detton
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Detton

Huxys Nah, you can pick either one.  Honestly, the ONLY thing Standard gives you is:

1.  Tournament points, if you care about that sort of thing
2.  A more fluid meta (Wild mode will be pretty stagnant as the super-powerful cards that were being retired are staying around – Deck types you’ve seen for months will still be there, still doing the same thing.)

Wild is great if you really have a thing for “Need to be able to play all my cards” but since I come from a MTG background myself, i’m really used to – and finally glad HS added in – a Standard format.

BritoBruno
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BritoBruno

borghive Karl_Hungus The answer is also legit.

BritoBruno
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BritoBruno

JesLyck
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JesLyck

TraylorAlan borghive  It should be every company’s philosophy.

Huxys
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Huxys

Great, now there will be TWO metas I have to dread! I guess I shouldn’t worry, it will always be something-Paladin. >_>

Skyewauker
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Skyewauker

Midgetsnowman Lhumierre Its really like this now.  i play pretty regularly.  I am somewhere between casual and hardcore.  I dont play 100 – 200 games a day, but i play 20-30.  I still don’t have cards that a lot of players have and the cards are crucial to most popular decks.

Here is a tip though.  If you arent a collector, disenchant every gold card that you don’t need.  You can make quite a bit of legendaries (2-3)

Huxys
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Huxys

borghive As mentioned – it’s quick, easy to understand, and on top of that it has really high production values and the presentation is top-notch, as per Blizzard standards. It’s very tactile and “punchy” to play. Even the act of opening a pack digitally replicates the physical act of opening a pack. You handle the pack, it tears open with fanfare, and you get a little suspense as you reveal each card, wondering if there’ll be a legendary card in there. So, it’s really a bunch of micro-addictive moments that add up to something hard to resist. “I’ll just play one quick game on my phone…”

borghive
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borghive

Karl_Hungus borghive It was a legit question. Turn down your sarcasm meter. :)

Alien Legion
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Alien Legion

Layfon I would hold out a bit, yeah.  I just started a month ago, bought two of the three adventures and a few packs of each expansion.  Sure it is F2P, but especially in a card game, you need to spend some money.

There just seems to be a ton to overcome at this point, and there are only two expansions, I can’t imagine down the road a bit.  Watching videos and reading up will only get you so far, people are pulling out wild card combinations that simply are overpowering what I can muster.

Of course those who have played, and spent, more should have an advantage, but if they want new players to pick up the game, they need to give us a way to compete, or what’s the point?

BritoBruno
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BritoBruno

Madda Damn son, the snarky is real <3

Halaegus
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Halaegus

Celestial octopus mode, activate.

heliaxb
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heliaxb

TraylorAlan Now you really need need to keep up with packs, because your old cards are useless in this format.

mmonerd
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mmonerd

borghive Very easy to get in. And its fun !

Dobablo
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Dobablo

Greaterdivinity
Blizzard don’t do ideas. Their modus operandi is to borrow other peoples’ and get them polished them up to work better than everything else.

Karl_Hungus
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Karl_Hungus

Midgetsnowman Karl_Hungus Lhumierre 
Sure. The company that built your furnace owes everything to the cavemen who discovered fire.

pcgneurotic
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pcgneurotic

mysecretid You might be thinking of HoTS (Heroes of The Storm), which is indeed a MOBA. Hearthstone is lots of fun, and HoTS is, well, pretty much what you think it is. :-D

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

Karl_Hungus Midgetsnowman Lhumierre to be fair, all great artists do that. even in actual art of cooking or hairstyling, sometimes taking and building on other peoples ideas creates great works all on its own

Layfon
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Layfon

I was actually thinking about giving it a try; but considering this nice change for newbs like me, I’ll be waiting a bit more.

Madda
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Madda

Now with more ways to pay.

Karl_Hungus
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Karl_Hungus

borghive Why do people like any game?

Karl_Hungus
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Karl_Hungus

Midgetsnowman Karl_Hungus Lhumierre 
They’ve made billions off other people’s creativity.

mysecretid
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mysecretid

Wait … Hearthstone is a card game? Seriously, all this time, I thought it was some kind of MOBA, and basically skipped over all the articles for it here. Oops!

(No, I’m not insulting MOBA games, I just don’t have much desire to play one)

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

Karl_Hungus Lhumierre Its pretty much one of the good things they do

Karl_Hungus
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Karl_Hungus

Lhumierre 
You didn’t expect Blizz to copy good ideas from other games??

TraylorAlan
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TraylorAlan

borghive It’s a pretty successful implementation of the Blizzard philosophy: “easy to play, hard to master.” This is my favorite “kill a few minutes” game. I play on my phone.

TraylorAlan
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TraylorAlan

Great idea. I just can’t keep up with all the new packs, so I’ll likely spend most of my time in Standard mode.

Lhumierre
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Lhumierre

Greaterdivinity Magic has the greatest mechanics ever.

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

Lhumierre Wouldn’t be the only thing they copies from MTG : P
Not that that’s a bad thing, MTG is a fantastic game (or at least was when I actively played).

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

Lhumierre I did. hearthstone is extremely successful, but it will die horribly without a tournament format that doesnt allow people with fuckloads of money to run away with the game and leave less moneyed players staring at card lists they can never compete with.

Lhumierre
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Lhumierre

borghive Simple & Easy to Pick Up. It’s also has a fanbase because everyone likes the IP that is being represented.

Lhumierre
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Lhumierre

This is following a Magic The Gathering Format HOLY. Didn’t expect this from Blizz at all

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

PurpleCopper By creating a Standard mode…just like this.

Sigbjorn
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Sigbjorn

Exactly like this. Magic: The Gathering’s main format is called, gasp!, Standard. It includes the last two sets (roughly two years worth of cards). They rarely ban cards in Standard. The other formats, Modern and Legacy, do have ban lists. Mainly because after 2+ decades they have printed some crazy, broken cards.

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

PurpleCopper In tournaments and the like, by banning older sets. At least from what I remember. It’s part of the overall strategy to both keep the game manageable in terms of balancing cards and to drive sales by requiring folks to continue to purchase new sets.

PurpleCopper
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PurpleCopper

Honestly surprised they don’t have a option to allow players to ban whatever cards they want to play. Heck, I’m wondering why this wasn’t introduced from Hearthstone’s inception.

How do other card games handle this?

borghive
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borghive

Why do people like this game?

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