Civil War multiplayer shooter War of Rights has been Kickstarted successfully

Civil War reenactment fans rejoice! War of Rights, the multiplayer shooter set in the Maryland Campaign of 1862, has reached its Kickstarter funding goal and then some. The game was asking for $107,000 but raked in over $118,000 when all was said and done.

“After a month on Kickstarter, our campaign for War of Rights is now over and we’ll get the funds needed to complete the game!” Campfire Games announced over the weekend. “We want to thank all of you for your support because thanks to you we’ll now be able to continue working on War of Rights!”

The title even managed to hit a few stretch goals along the way, funding additional foliage, a single-player battlefield tour, and more detailed interiors.

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MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

…… It was some white guys yelling. Doesn’t really take a hyper active imagination to figure out what it sounded like.

groo the wanderer
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groo the wanderer

melissaheather groo the wanderer Actually its not . Yeehaw is associated with old movies about cowboys . The rebel yell was a battle cry used by the confederate army to install fear in the enemy . There are written accounts of it as being that maniacal maelstrom of sound; that penetrating, rasping, shrieking, blood-curdling noise 

There are a few pieces of film from the early 20 th century that exist that are supposed to be of veterans of the civil war doing the rebel yell but the origins of these seem to doubtful . 

The actual sound of the rebel yell has been lost to living memory .

MissingLynx
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Estranged You’re numbers are off, again. First of all, you pulled the “milliion’s of southerners” straight out of your own butt yesterday, which we all know already anyway and you should probably just own up to that already. Secondly, it wasn’t even a million. It was likely no more than 750,000, and that is from revised estimates from four years ago. You really need to do some actual reading on the subject. Less than 50,000 at most happened during the war. And again, that’s only after revised upwards estimates. 

Was that worth ending slavery? Of course it was. Why? Because unlike you, I don’t weigh generations of black lives spent in chattel slavery, and generations to come, as less than the lives and property of a few nearby white people who were defending that right to own them. You talk about the four million slaves still alive at the time, but you don’t talk about the ones that came before them, nor the ones that would have existed after them, had slavery continued. 

It’s utterly hilarious that you argue their stations in life didn’t change enough after the war, because in so doing you are arguing that radical Reconstruction should have continued until your precious south had been fully integrated and reshaped culturally. I mean….. You literally have no idea the subject matter you are arguing about. You’re reciting provincial myths from the Lost Cause era that have been refuted so many times it makes my head spin. I couldn’t have invented a more fitting caricature if I had tried.

“Restricted voting to land owners and men”? What the blue hell are you talking about? The country as it was founded? This country was founded 240 years ago by rich white men, most of whom owned slaves and property. I am confused as to how this is a northern or southern thing as opposed to an objective reality. Do you even know what you are talking about? For the love of God, the south literally needed to have troops and court cases put in place to let black people… in the 1960’s! Where is your head?

It’s ultimately bemusing watching you pretend the whole course of collective US history is dictated by the north. Not only is the exact opposite true in antebellum America, after the war, the south was more or less reinstated to pre-war positioning in the House and Senate. There is a real good reason why late 19th century and early 20th century is a big gaping hole in modern American learning, because it was a very dark time for the country as Reconstruction was an utter failure and the Gilded Age came into being because of this.

 I mean, you clearly don’t have the foggiest idea about US history at all whatsoever, so watching you fumble about in some kind of fog while hitting every standard bad point in our collective history and use rote cynicism is hilarious. Literally, I am just laughing. 

What is it you think that would do? That I would try to defend America’s ugly spots? Please, I am an America hating liberal! I would add in ones you forgot! Like the Jim Crow era….oops….

At this point, the only thing I am wondering anymore is if you realize how dumb you sound saying this stuff. By damning America (correctly) for an ugly, brutish past, you are proving the point that, of course, the most deadly war in history was fought over whether or not they could own people. That’s the kind of people American’s are. 

You’re titling at northern windmills, and it is very cute, because it renders bare that your point here is nothing more than dogged tribalism in service of your “southern heritage”. You guys owned slaves, you kept slaves for generations, you fought an entire war predicated on keeping those chattel slaves forever, lost, and proceeded to spend the next one hundred years removing black people from any sort of public life. Just accept it and integrate it into what you are. It’s not that hard.

Estranged
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Estranged

Hope you didn’t miss me…
600,000 soldiers and untold citizens died, approximately 1 million total. This is from both sides.
This was to “free” 4 million slaves. People that basically went back to doing what they had performed before the conflict.
So, that was worth 1 million deaths?
I’m sure the women and children that were butchered would agree.
Was pondering today about the superior Northern government and intellect.
You mean the one that restricted voting to land owners and only men?
The one that imprisoned Japanese citizens in concentration camps during WW2.
The one that massacred natives? Broke treaties with them? Gave them blankets laced with disease? Basically stole Manhattan from them? Really stole all of their land and put them on reservations?
Yes, this is that benevolent northern government. The one that has been in control, just due to population.
A warmonging government that has sent thousands upon thousands to die for business interests.
An imperialist government. Controlled by that superior Northern Intellect, right?
You have to own it all, oh benevolent emanating government!

fluffymagicalunicorn
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MissingLynx melissaheather Estrangednged

Thanks again for owning this discussion, Lynx. xD

alexhurlbut
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MissingLynx alexhurlbut fluffymagicalunicorn Yeah. For the South in that time period, the more wealthy you are, the more slaves you own, and the more land you can work. It was the way to move up in the Sourthern Society. That’s why yoemen and poor men support the southern cause because it was the only way of life they knew.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

alexhurlbut fluffymagicalunicorn By “way of life” you mean the ability to own black people as property.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Estranged Yes, of course, the white people were the real victims here….

Estranged
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Estranged

You put this better than me, no doubt. Just another case of rich men using the poor to fight their battles. What happened in Josey Wales wasn’t fiction.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

melissaheather Estranged That is accurate only if you ignore virtually everything the Confederacy ever said about itself at the time. You have to ignore all of their declarations of secession, their constitution, political statements of the time (“Cornerstone Speech” for example), and the initial call to arms to pretend it wasn’t about the continuation and protection of chattel slavery. I mean… how much clearer would they have needed to make it for you people what they were doing? Talk about “blind stubborn stupidity”…

It’s always so bemusing to see Confederate soldiers portrayed as gallant heroes. They were fighting for a country whose entire reason for existence was the defense of white people getting to own black people as property. That’s it, full stop. And of course, the Confederacy instigated the war by seceeding due to Lincoln’s election (literally, they left the country cause they couldn’t dictate the presidency anymore) and escalating the Sumter crisis by firing on the federal garrison there. I also am constantly befuddled as to how Confederate soldiers being too poor to own slaves somehow equates to them not believing slavery was ok. The logic is totally fallacious. 

It is rather telling that anyone doing a Confederacy defense always denies agency to the Confederacy itself, never speaks directly to the reality of slavery, and instead interjects their own view points backwards on then current events. Whenever you read one, just ask yourself why they can’t seem to quote directly from any contemporary source for their rationale? Or why they feel the need to portray the white people as the victims in all this. There is a very obvious agenda to their meanings. 

And yes indeed, I am very “smug” about my ancestors winning a war that ended the unjust slavery of an entire race of people. Seems like the appropriate kind of thing to be proud of. Do you even have a point?

melissaheather
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Estranged Nah, it needs to be said.  People who get on the “it wuz all about slavery” blinders are using a Fisher-price view of the realities of the conflict, and excusing war crimes by assuming the end justified the means.
What they don’t ever seem to be able to grasp (and it is amazing to me, the lack of perspective and empathy for fellow Americans) is that the average Confederate soldier owned no slaves, came from a poor family, and fought because an army was invading their state and was going to burn down their cities, shoot them with guns and cannons, tear up their railroads, rape their wives and daughters, burn their crops, and all the other stuff that happens when men kill each other (and everybody else in the line of fire) in war.   They can’t seem to grasp these soldiers fought for home and hearth, not for “slavery’ and ideas like that came to doodly-squat once the bullets started flying.   And that’s just blind stubborn stupidity.   They’d rather feel smug about ‘winning’ than being soberly ‘right’. 
And this is the opinion of an immigrant, i am a Scot who came to USA.

melissaheather
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groo the wanderer Are you nuts?  The whole “yeehaw” thing is The Rebel Yell.

alexhurlbut
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fluffymagicalunicorn Yeah. Southern States asserting their rights to secede and protecting their way of life. Union asserting the right to maintain the Union and, later in the war, the right for humans to be free.

blackcatcrosses
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Karl_Hungus Snky Actually, it was about ethics in game journalism.

blackcatcrosses
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blackcatcrosses

I predict this won’t end well!

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Ahhh, yes, the old “my best friend are black!” Defense. Tremendous. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
And no, racism is a very easily defined thing. The only reason to complicate and muddy it is if you’re in need of doing so for some reason…..

Estranged
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MissingLynx Thanks for assuming. Racist is such a dirty word today.  It is also a stupid word, because no one living on this earth doesn’t have some type of stereotype.  Nobody.  Not possible. So is discrimination.  Everyone discriminates somehow.  I’m sorta “racist” and “discriminatory” towards my own “kind”, tend to hang out with people from different backgrounds.  If I wanted more white culture, I would just visit my Dad’s side of the family.  

Man, I can’t stop typing.  I’m sitting in my old business building lounge, waiting to watch a basketball game with my “black” friend.  Now mind you, 80% of the team is black, but we don’t care.  

People are far more complicated than we can imagine.  My “black” friend is married to a “white” woman.  Now, he so happened to be my mother’s boss at work, before she retired.  He adopted two white children.  His brother played Pro Football, while he was a walk-on in college.  So, this guy managed to fight through this oppressive society and runs the HR department of a major electronics manufacturing firm.  I consider him a father figure, but thank you for letting me know that I hate his guts.  :-)  

Carry on, have a good one.  

/poof

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Bwahahahaha,
No No, I got your silly references, the problem is they are silly and wholly irrelevant to a discussion about the civil war. You’re basically attempting to be an autodidact bringing in esoteric information to derail the discussion away from your refuted points. It’s amateur.
But no, I hate to break it to you, you’re white. It’s cool. It’s time to just live up to that. Gibberish about southern heritage won’t really change that.
And you’ll never “rebuild” this country while being so obviously misunderstood about its history. That’s the problem. Guys like you are so wholly squared against dealing with actual issues that have led to the current state of things that it dooms you too simply repeat the most obvious mistakes. Though this has long been stated by more intelligent people than I (Coates for a modern example).
As I said, bye Felicia. One less person to deal with.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

What? You’ve not one tried to use any source information for anything you’ve given. Not even a simple link to your “millions of southern dead” claim. That’s a hard number that you should, in theory, be able to provide some kind of information for, but clearly can’t. Where as others have pointed you directly to sources such as the declarations of secession, census figures, and contemporary comments.
What kills me about guys like you is that you’re so isolated from outside source material that you can’t even be bothered to look at it when it’s provided and you do sense in defense of white privilege in America. You claim some sort of higher education but clearly avoid information that directly invalidates held opinions and hide behind a lame concept like “scapegoating the south” or “sensitivity” while failing to actually defend your opinions whatsoever.
Maybe of you actually provided any information there would be a chance to form the kind of dialogue you’re talking about, but I won’t hold my breath on it.

Estranged
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Estranged

MissingLynx See, you don’t understand my references, so you just dismiss them.  Gotcha.

You don’t know how the native americans made it to the US?  The land bridge between Russia and Alaska.  My reference was a jab at this whole idea that my university must have been populated by northerners to earn a good reputation.  Therefore, the immigrants comment.  

I won’t bother listing the great scientists and musicians from the South.  Oh, why not?  George Washington Carver, BB King, James West (invented the microphone), Mae Jamison (first black astronaut), Percy Julian and Booker T Washington.    All of African decent.  All southern.  

I think the pictures of my grandmother prove it and my own facial features.  Thanks.  LOL

“chattel”  Haven’t seen that term used in a long time.  Must be the hot term again.  

I’m not really white.  Genetically speaking, all humans are the same, so I laugh at that aspect anyway.  Cultural groups are more proper to analyze.  

I find it interesting that the “elite” intellectuals try to divide everyone up genetically, when the sciences proves otherwise.  

One can be learned and also apathetic.  I’m more interested in rebuilding this country versus living in the past and stereotyping cultural groups.  

Thank you for your time, I am indeed out for now.  

Best wishes.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Got it, you’re a racist. Thanks for clarifying.

Estranged
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Estranged

MissingLynx It isn’t the last.  Africa is a damn mess, they just enslave and kill themselves now.  An AIDs and HIV epidemic.

Estranged
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Estranged

fluffymagicalunicorn Estranged I can back up my opinion with sources, at least.  This is what is killing me about this whole debate and why I am done.  

#1 it is sensitive
#2 the side that is hell bent on making the South a scapegoat in this mess won’t listen to any other information 

#3 I’m sorry for participating.

Estranged
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Estranged

ManastuUtakata Karl_Hungus modulooblongata People do that?  SMH.

Estranged
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Estranged

Hi all.  I want to apologize for participating in the political debate down below.  Will leave my comments intact, because I feel I should own them and not be ashamed of my stance.  However, this is a sensitive subject which is best left to a politically forum, IMHO.  

Take care and best wishes.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

“All immigrants by lineage”….”land bridge”….What the Hell are you even talking about? I guess we are all African then….?
Oh, and you don’t need to tell me you don’t care about what happened 150 years ago. The reality you don’t know the figures, documents, and source material from the time already proved history isn’t your strong suit, an admission of that wasn’t necessary, but thanks.
Why reserve it for the south? That’s easy, it’s called the Confederate States of America. The south was so married to racial superiority through chattel slavery that it fought the deadliest war in the history of this country to keep it. That’s a level that none of those things you listed comes close to.
I do love the southern white guy telling other people to “get over it” though. That’s straight out of the modern denialism playbook. It’s an easy thing to say when your ancestors weren’t enslaved then shut out of the of economic and political structures for generations.
The Indian heritage claim is cute too. I’ll assume you can prove it? White people claiming Indian heritage is a favorite pastime for them too, my grandmother used to do it for us for the longest time till we called her out on it.
But weren’t you “finished”?

Estranged
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Estranged

LOL
We are all immigrants in lineage.. Geez.
Even the natives, they had to cross the land bridge.
Justifying nothing. I wasn’t involved. Neither were my ancestors. Well, I did have one that worked on a ship that transported the slaves that their own people furnished. Now that is the ugly truth. Trading their own people for goods. The whole deal was so twisted. Northern ships, sugar, rum and slaves. One big triangle.
So, as my alma mater produces astronauts and the CEO of Apple, excuse me if I don’t give a damn about what happened 150 years ago, other than it is still being used as a slap.
I’m 1/4 Cherokee, can I bitch about my people being killed off and sent across the country on the Trail of Tears? It is a never ending cycle of blame. Eventually, people have to get over it and hit life head on the best they can.
If we we going to be authentic, we need to include Japanese concentration camps that were set up during WWII by the northern dominated government. We forget the Chinese slaves. So much good ole American white evil. Why reserve it all for the South?

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

By “wall of text” do you mean “actual information”? Reading is tough, huh?
And yes, I get personally annoyed watching people apologize for the last bastion of African chattel slavery, it’s grotesquely offensive, especially when done with claims that could best be described as “fictitious”.
But hey, bye Felicia.

Estranged
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Estranged

Sheldon, give the elitist rhetoric a rest. When I type something and all I get is a wall of text with a punchline at the end, I realize a personal nerve has been hit. Good day.
Finished.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Estranged Oh no, they cared greatly about the slaves, specifically, the amount of power and influence they gave the lower populated Southern states in the government structure. That had been a bone of contention since the very founding of the country. I know this is really difficult for guys like you and Karl to understand, but, it is entirely possible to be racist and still think that chattel slavery was morally repugnant. It really wasn’t even that difficult to comprehend. 

And I am well aware of the cornerstone slavery played in this country, that is the point. The U.S. was founded on a bedrock of African slavery, so much so that the south literally forced a deadly war over it’s continued existence. 

Oh, and if you are upset about the ignorant racist southerner stereotype, I suggest you use all those “PhD”s per capita” in your hometown (likely from people attending school in the north) to invent a time machine, go back in time, and ask your southern forebearers to not start a war based on slavery. Cause that is the only way that one is going away. 

“Gang violence all over the country”? Huh? Like… you are aware that violent crime has dropped by about half the last 25 years or so right?

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Estranged Errr, what? That’s ridiculous. The advantage the North had in industrialization had nothing to do with slavery and had to do with a modern, industrial economy vs. a rural, plantation based one. Things like the amount of rail lines, the ability to move goods, the ability to manufacture weaponry, and sheer population all tilted heavily to the North. And again, you can’t just say “it was going to die” when all information points to the opposite. The number of slaves was literally on the rise right up to the start of the war. Black is white, and all that jazz.

Oh yay, cynical anti-corporation talk. You must be fun at parties.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Oh me too. They were much more fun at college though. It always made me chuckle watching a history professor shoot them down.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

You’re the guy who claims “millions” died in the south during the civil war. I’d be careful throwing around the “ignorant” charge.
Oh, and a massive amount of share croppers were black. And indentured servitude was ended by the 13th amendment, and the outlawing of debtor prisoner had already made it nearly impossible to enforce. But the fact you compare that to actual chattel slavery is very telling indeed…

ManastuUtakata
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Karl_Hungus modulooblongata 
…and those who like to play both sides because it’s hipster.

fluffymagicalunicorn
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Stormwaltz Karl_Hungus Snky

Nailed it, Stormwaltz. Thank you.

MrEllis
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MrEllis

Horrible game name, I won’t be playing this one.

MrEllis
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MrEllis

Karl_Hungus Snky The state’s rights to own slaves.

MrEllis
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MrEllis
fluffymagicalunicorn
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MissingLynx Karl_Hungus Stormwaltz Snky

Lynx, I wish I could give your posts 1000s of likes. I’m sick and tired of Confederate apologists.

fluffymagicalunicorn
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Estranged Saying ‘Slavey was going away anyway’ is inaccurate. The Confederacy waned to EXPAND the franchise, and if you think they couldn’t have found another use for free labor, you’re wrong.

fluffymagicalunicorn
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Estranged No. It was totally about slavery, I’m sorry to say. I mean, when the seceding powers say tht in their declarations of secession that they are seceding because slavery, you have to give it to them.

People like to pretend it was about just about anything else, though.

fluffymagicalunicorn
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fluffymagicalunicorn

‘War of Rights’? Seriously?

Estranged
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Estranged

The whole point is the leadership up North didn’t care about the slaves overall.
I have never justified the behavior, but find it hilarious that the fact Northern settlers and the founding members of this nation used slaves. Go read the documents, as you say.
Grew up in the South and I despise this stereotype of the ignorant racist southerner. Visit Michigan. Gang violence all over the country. I attended a top 25 University, didn’t have time for such craziness. Did it on my own.
We are the center of the space program. My hometown has more PhDs per capita than any in this country. We build cars and rockets.

Estranged
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Estranged

Nah, the South couldn’t keep up with the modern machinery of the North using slaves. Case in point, the huge tech advantage in the war. It was going to die. No way around it.
So now, in modern times, we have your legal slaves. Working for corps as expendable pawns. We all are rats in a cage now. Thank you Northern superiority!

Estranged
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Estranged

LOL comparing this to the holocaust. Are you serious? This is when I know someone is FOS.

Estranged
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Estranged

You are ignorant. I wouldn’t bother typing if you don’t understand. The thing about the white slave is they weren’t property, so very expendable. Sharecroppers, indentured servants.

DasBenty
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Reading about it since elementary school and yet blaming the north for everything and acting as if slavery was no big deal, both sides were guilty of things.  I won’t ask your opinion on the holocaust because I don’t want to find out if you’re a denier of that as well. I’m done commenting though so reply away

MissingLynx
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Estranged Slavery was on the rise, not going away, in the US. Since the invention of the cotton gin in the late 18th century, you can see a steady rise of the slave population in the US up to 1860 in the US ten year census reports. 

Furthermore, slavery represents the ultimate in labor cost certainty. As you bizarrely admit to in your third paragraph, it was an economic bedrock for any large scale, labor intensive production in the world, there was no reason to think it was just gonna go away overnight. Besides, the idea that black people were supposed to just suffer nicely in slavery until white people decided it had run it’s course is utterly insane a thought process when said out loud. 

Basically, what I am saying is your “economics history professor” is kind of a dunce. Sounds much like my old Middle East history professor. Who was also a dunce. 

Oh, and “millions” of southerners? Less than ONE million, total, were killed in the civil war. But thanks for saying that, gives me good reason not to take you at all seriously.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Estranged +1 for white slaves. Always makes me giggle. Poor, poor white people.

MissingLynx
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MissingLynx

Karl_Hungus Stormwaltz Snky The only revisionism is the attempt by Confederate apologists to deny the central role of slavery in the Civil War. 

The Union actually did end slavery, you see….

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