Ashes of Creation sprints down the final crowdfunding stretch

This is it, boys and girls. Ashes of Creation is going to wrap up its immensely successful Kickstarter campaign tomorrow, and the only question left is whether or not the game will be able to push across the $3M line to unlock the sheer excitement of… a stock exchange. OK, well, it’ll still be pretty neat to see if that goal is reached or not.

As of the time of this writing, the project has achieved 368% of its target goal of $750,000, netting over $2.7M so far. To help keep excitement levels high — and those wallets open — the developers posted a new half-hour gameplay video with commentary that shows off Ashes of Creation’s pre-alpha build in action.

Check it out after the break!

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Serrenity

I’m still resisting. But it is SUPER tempting. I’m not worried about the game crashing or anything like that, just hate the waiting and every game I’ve kickstarted has blown the original timeline out of the water in orders of magnitude (aka – not a single game I’ve backed has delivered yet — still going, just not delivered yet).

Star Citizen, Project Gorgon, Legends of Aria (was Shards Online at the time), Camelot Unchained, TUG, Heroes Song …

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Veldan

I was thinking the same thing, would like to see other games that I helped fund release first… but it was too tempting for me.

The thing that pulled me over the line is that the current kickstarter amount is already so high, meaning that the project is basically already a success, and that even if you choose to grab the lowest tier on the last day, you get a lot of backer rewards because of all the backer number stretch goals that have been hit. Those are much nicer than the direct pledge rewards, imo.

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BDJ

The only thing I hate about this kickstarter (not sure about others) is that the price of the tiers has changed like 5 times. They raised prices on the pioneer tier.

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wild-abyss

I canceled my $40 pledge weeks ago. Then reconsidered at the lower level. I’m not psyched about the PVP things I’ve been hearing but… I do still expect to give it a good chance and I’d like to have backed it if it turns out to be awesome.

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MesaSage

Enjoy the ride.

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Nick

Looks good but I am still weary of how PvP/griefing is being handled. I’ve heard varying reports on how harshly griefers (killing non-flagged players) will be punished. Some statements are far too lenient allowing the penalty to be washed away with minimal work while others imply people would be instantly marked as an outlaw on the map and a bounty placed on them just for 1 unflagged PK.

I’ve been bait-and-switched far too many times in this regard so I am not dedicating much of anything until I am assured playing PvE won’t be regularly ruined by random griefers gaming the system or simply not caring. Developers have frequently overestimated their griefing deterrents.

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TheDonDude

I also never understand the punishment for unwanted PvP being… now other people can PvP them. Huh?

PvP is what they wanted in the first place. Good news you non-PvP victim, you’re now permitted to PvP your attacker. Uh …thanks?

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Loyheta

I ended up going pioneer. This game looks like it can potentially be a lot of fun.

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Veldan

That final stretch goal (3M) is going to be hit soon. I finally gave in yesterday, and backed the $25 tier.

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edangerous
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edangerous

Surprised at how few backers there are in comparison to something like Wasteland 2 which also raised $3m. 17,000 backers vs 62,000 or $176 per person vs $48 per person.

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Veldan

Tbh, $48 is a rather low average. Probably because Wasteland is not an MMO. MMOs tend to attract fewer people that spend more, due to them being more niche games that people play for longer.

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edangerous

Seems like a nice early backer discount on a $60 game more than anything.
$176 avg, is a steep price to play for a game imo regardless of whether it’s an MMO or not.

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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Toy Clown

I’ve begun watching this game in earnest over the past few weeks. I’ve been wanting to see a game that merges the realism graphics that Asians create for their MMOs but run by Western devs. And this seems an attempt at such a marriage. I hope it does well, as it does sound fun in theory, and the graphics already look pretty neat in its pre-alpha stage.

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mistressbrazen

All the male avatars are fully clothed but in winter the female avatar has her arms and shoulders bare. Sigh.

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socontrariwise

… and of course the chest/cleavage. I saw the same and hope that is an outlier. But I’m not optimistic.

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Sorenthaz

Apparently they got some new folks joining them as well:

“Rocco Scandizzo, Kevin McPherson, Akil Hooper, Mat Broome, and Alex Khudoliy join the team along with special partner Panopticon Labs.”

Intrepid Studios Press Release – May 31, 2017 from AshesofCreation

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socontrariwise

Seeing them hire “bro’s” from Daybreak/SOE with not much of a reputation… McPherson was with Vanguard from 2003 and that was technically a desaster. And if stories are true they basically did the whole thing in the year prior to release because nothing much came out of it before, how would that give me confidence? But instead we have lackluster new project (not able to be hired somewhere else?) with another shooter and failure to deliver (Hero Machine). Makes me less optimistic. But we will see.

Scandizzo is even weirder, a guy with experience in doing business development and marketing is hired as … “lead economic designer”?? What on eart is that supposed to be, hire someone with background in value chains and actual economics of limited markets if you have to reach outside of crafting design expertise? Administrative overhead bloat already but let’s give him a title so we don’t realize?

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Sorenthaz

I don’t know why but I’m putting a wee bit much into backing it. Probably because I just really want this to work and work well. Also the worst case is that it goes belly up and I get refunded – if they try to skirt around refunds after promising they would, then they’ll definitely be in for a load of trouble.

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BDJ

This is why crowdfunding is silly. You are DONATING / INVESTING to help fund development. You aren’t buying a damned thing. Its not a ready-to-ship product that has a money back guarantee. If you donated to a children’s cancer hospital and it ended up closing, are you going to whine bitch and moan for a refund? How about donating to a local politicians campaign. If they lose are you going to picket and protest in front of their home because you didn’t get your money back?

You shouldn’t be entitled to any kind of refund whatsoever. Kids now a days use kickstarter as a way to test a game. After they see any one thing wrong that they don’t like, they whine bitch and moan til they get a refund.

You do realize that the money you put in goes to buying hardware / software and paying wages of the people busting their ass developing the game right? Its not like the $$$ you donate goes into a coffer and sits forever gathering interest.

Simply put. Its an investment. You are taking the risk and should weigh the risk vs reward for investing in a game development project. Sometimes you hit it big when you invest and sometimes you lose everything.

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Sally Bowls

I hope it is successful and I can certainly understand why others hope and expect it to be.

But I don’t get this:

if they try to skirt around refunds after promising they would, then they’ll definitely be in for a load of trouble.

If they try to make the game and fail (again, not a prediction or hope) then what trouble could they be in? Presumably, the company would have more debts than cash; no worth means it is pointless to sue them. Similarly, if the government fined them, there is no money to recover. If the company goes belly up, then there will never be another game so it is immaterial to the company if they have the worst reputation ever. If the company goes belly up, I can not see any additional negative consequences to not refunding. What trouble do you see them being in by not refunding?

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Sorenthaz

Mostly means that a bunch of backers will be angry and they’ll get a bad rep for it.

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Sally Bowls

But if it happens the company will be shutting down. I do not see how them getting the worst reputation on the internet would have the slightest impact on a company that is belly up. There will be zero future sales whether people are angry or not.

I was clearly wrong about this; the refunds were a great idea. A lot of people like the idea. They have made more money because of this. And it does not cost them anything since at the end of the day, if it fails, they can still pay out the same zero dollars in refunds that other failed KS projects do. I doubt this will be the last KS to do this.

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jay

Canceled my pledge today, something has been giving me a weird itchy feeling of unease regarding this whole kickstarter. I can’t put my finger on it, but something just doesn’t feel right this time around. I respect what they are trying to do, but I’m going to wait and see the finished product before I pony up any capitol.

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Liandreth

Yeah, hubs and I ended up cancelling our pledges too. We will totally support the game when it’s out, but man, we were super burned on Repop. Like to think we’d learned our lesson.

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KryptonianGL

Just want to say thanks to you and others that have canceled. I was able to move my pledge down a bit on the “Braver of Worlds” tier to save some extra cash.

I started off at the $470 tier and am now sitting at $425. By midnight tonight, I may even get to the $400 level!

I know it may not sound like a lot of savings when you are already paying $400+, but heh, I’m a bargain shopper…so, thanks again!

I purchased the LOTRO lifetime sub way back in 2004 (or 2005?) and it was one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.

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oldandgrumpy

I have the same feeling about this Kickstarter as well but then again I am a PVE only player.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I backed this as well. It’s a total crap shoot. The reason I am neutral about this is because Steve Sharif has actual world experience and made his money being savvy. Hopefully that smart business sense carries over to managing an MMO’s finances.

Because, let’s face it, most of the recent Big Name developer MMO attempts have failed because the finance side of the business failed.

Mukit
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Mukit

Love the Monster Coin video they put on the Kickstarter website. Awesome idea.

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Tazuras

Woo! More footage!

I funded at a low tier, the only other thing I have backed is SC, and even though it is still in development I have enjoyed watching its progress.

Nick Martin
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Nick Martin

I actually cancelled mine today, but it has less to do with my feelings towards the game (fairly excited, actually). But the money could go to other things and after looking at the other MMOs I’ve backed and realizing none of them are anywhere close to showing up (or ever will)… I think I’ll wait for it to actually launch.

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