Escape from Tarkov players call for a server wipe in light of gear balance issues and bad player behavior

    
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When they’re not abusing DMCA to silence dissenting voices or coming up with threadbare excuses for not adding female models, the devs at Escape from Tarkov are generally developing a multiplayer shooter of risk and reward, where players can get the loot they find only if they successfully exit the map in any given session. A recent spike in new players to the game, however, has brought to light a problem with this design – namely, that some PvP players can’t possibly play a PvP game without putting brain power and effort into ruining other peoples’ day instead of cultivating their own personal skill.

This particular flavor of PvP cheese in Tarkov comes in the form of exit camping, where players who already have snagged themselves some high-tier items simply head to the map exit, hunker down, and wait to mow down new players or those who have lesser gear. Of course, this doesn’t always work out as illustrated in one Reddit video clip (volume warning), but the fact remains that there’s a significant gulf in terms of gear between new arrivals and those who have been playing the game for a while.

The solution is simple according to the playerbase: Reset the server. Escape from Tarkov has done so before and doing so would level the playing field for the fresh blood to the multiplayer shooter. However, a member of the Battlestate Games team has written on the official forums that the next server wipe “will not be in the next couple of months,” though that thread appears to have been inaccessible to those who aren’t registered to the forums.

source: Polygon
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Ethan Rittershaus

It’s called grenades you noobs. They clear rooms and own campers. Get gud.

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Rodrigo Dias Costa

Reading the players of this game… Man, what a sad place to be this game is…

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Nic Hunter

I try to avoid killing lower level players if I can avoid it. We were all new players at one point with a 10% survival rate, that’s part of the experience. The game is marketed as a hardcore shooter. If u don’t enjoy the game, don’t play it. Simple as that.

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Paul Blart, Maul Cop

Resetting the server won’t help the new players at all. The skill gap is what makes it difficult for new players. The game is hard, and all the new players who aren’t ready for the punishing gameplay need to stop crying. The ain’t PUBG or CoD, this game takes a lot of time and practice to get skilled at it. Battlestate has already made it clear that the game is for hardcore players, they aren’t gonna take it easy just because there’s suddenly an influx of new people.

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laelgon

The game definitely needs work in easing new players into the game. It’s easy as a new player to find yourself without gear or money after a few runs where you get one-shot by a player with hundreds of hours and a mountain of high end gear. None of that would be a problem, except the risk-free scav runs have a 20 minute cooldown. Just starting out, I had a number of times where basically the only option was to alt-tab for 20 minutes and hope the next run got me some gear, which is a terrible new player experience. The game has too much downtime, in my opinion, not even including the crazy long (10+ minute) matchmaking times.

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PFC Williams [29ID]

For new players it’s better to just go into a raid with nothing or just cheap gear like a pistol than to run your scav. Even if you can’t afford to heal yourself between matches, you can find anything in a raid. Experienced players have come across all types of play styles, so being sneaky still might not work out and someone could find you. Find a big map with multiple routes, find a path that’s less trafficked and just scrounge for loot. Every time you enter a new raid, you’re rolling the dice for a chance at a free gear bag from someone that was killed by AI scavs. If you keep going on your PMC you get experience and levels too, which is way more beneficial than a free crappy scav gun.

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ReverseOsmosis

you can always go in with a hatchet, chill and scoop the leftover from the map

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Armsbend

All of the arguments against the game seem incredibly whiny because it is a hit.

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Mewmew

It’s whiny? The only way to save gear and get upgrades is to go out an exit with them that people with high-level gear are camping. New players coming into the game can’t get out the exit with any gear to get themselves upgraded because the players that have high-level gear from long term playing are camping said exit. That’s a legitimate complaint, not whining.

But yeah, they should just go away and quit playing the game rather than try to get things changed. It’s poor design and they shouldn’t stick around and try to get it fixed they should just quit. Anything else is “whining”. Let the game get stagnant with no new players and griefers ruling the roost. Who cares if we’re not playing it, right?

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Paul Blart, Maul Cop

I’ve been playing the game for 2 years now, and trust me, it’s the new players that are exit camping. The old players are killing the new players during normal map exploration simply because the new players haven’t bothered to learn the ins and outs of the maps. The learning curve is steep. Nearly every player was at one point a new player getting clapped, including myself. These new people just have to stop complaining, put their nose to the grindstone like the rest of us did, and get better.

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ReverseOsmosis

well said bro

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NeoWolf

I’m surprised it took them this long to realise camping an exit would give them a steady supply of targets tbh… I mean literally EVERYONE has to evacuate or they don’t get any of the loot.

I also don’t see what good resetting the server would do, I mean SURe it would level the playing field for all current players in terms of gear now… but what about in a few months all the other new players will be in the same situation, so what then another rest? and another again a few months after that, and another… etc..etc.. it isn’t a solution, sooner or later people will get pi**ed off with grinding stuff, improving their character and hideout only to have it all reset so the next wave of noobs can feel safer.

They’d be better of with multiple randomly determined ex-fill spots per map, or placing exfill places in better locations so that it is hard to camp them without being visible etc.. turning the tables.

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kgptzac

I’m confused. The game has been this way in the beginning, and people only started to camping exits now? AFAIK exits can’t be indefinitely camped, as the most defensible position are actually inside the extraction zone, and players are forceably extracted after the timer. Any camping around the exit areas have been and should be fair game, is it not?

Anyway, this game is won by not playing but only watch streamers play.

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Mewmew

People are complaining now because a lot of new players are coming into the game that don’t have any gear. And no, it’s not fair game for old-time players who have high-level gear already to grief new players just getting in the game and trying to upgrade.

For a game to succeed it needs to pull in new players. It’s pulling in those new players now, but has to do something to accommodate the differential between old-time players that have better gear and the new people trying to get any gear upgrades.

That’s why people are asking for a server reset, then it would be fair game for everybody. As it is now there is a power imbalance that’s happening because of the gear the old players have rather than just being a contest of skill.

This is what I’m getting out of the article anyway, realistically I don’t know enough about the game to know anything beyond what the article is saying.

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kgptzac

I never played this game either but I’ve watched streamers play it on Twitch. Server resets make no sense here because it’s unfair to anyone who has played the game and looted prior to the reset. Granted it’s been done before for whatever reason, and some people got used to that and are calling for more resets now. If the reason for resets are to “level the playing field”, then unfortunately it’s a testament of the failure of their own gameplay design that new players can’t realistically catch up to the veterans.

The other replies here seem to suggest that “geared veterans camping exists explicitly to grief newer players” is an overblown sentiment. If they are expensively geared, putting themselves in predictable spots specifically killing less geared people while ramping up the risk of themselves getting killed, to me, is a bad investment of time and effort.

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Trae Diebold

I have a couple issues with this.

1. This Extract camping is Such a rare occurrence There’s no way there is a community outcry for this. The amount of time you have to sit in one spot waiting for someone else to extract, not to mention being lucky as hell they didn’t go to one of the other 8 extracts, is just not sustainable ESPECIALLY when you may get low level gear out of it.

2. We’ve seen time and time again gear does not necessarily mean you won’t die. I’ll bet money on DeadlySlob wiping out a team of 4 noobs who have Fort and he only has a ak74u. If the noobs go up against adversity they will only get better. Wiping will not solve the issues they are having of not being able to kill players.

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Artful_Dodger

Finally a comment that makes sense @Trae Diebold. I have seen Deadly wipe seasoned squads with low tier gear, hell I’m an average tier player of the game and have killed fully kitted players at higher levels than myself with subpar gear. Clearly some of these people haven’t spent much time playing Tarkov. I’ve been playing since the NDA was lifted in the very early Alpha stage of the game and can count the times I’ve been exit camped on one hand. Tarkov isn’t for everyone to be sure… Wipes do create a fun pvp atmosphere it wouldn’t change a thing as far as how the game is played. You have to play smart in Tarkov or you’ll be sent back to your stash. People have to remember they aren’t the only one going to extracts… Not saying camping isn’t a thing but it’s hardly an issue…