Star Wars: The Old Republic moves its servers to a location far, far away (from the west coast)

Ahead of the game’s large-scale server merge, the Star Wars: The Old Republic servers have had their physical locations merged into one. It turns out all of the game’s servers were moved to a location on the east coast after the game’s most recent maintenance, albeit without any prior notification to players. This has some players (particularly those on the west coast) a bit miffed, seeing as how this will immediately affect ping, latency, and how far you have to drive to manually wipe characters off of your server in a fit of rage.

The good news is that the developers are aware that this change will affect performance and are hoping to be able to smooth things out over the next two weeks. That’s when the server consolidation is taking place, so that’s all the more reason to hope that all of the kinks are worked out by then. Hopefully your ping rate hasn’t significantly worsened with the move!

Source: Official Site; thanks to Jnaathra for the tip!
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Lol, that is hilarious. I am in India, have never played any MMO with a ping of less than 200ms (it is usually around 300ms), and people are whining about a server move to a different coast on the same continent.

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Purewitz

I know your pain. I’m from the East Coast of the United States and back in the days before there where many free to play games in North America. I used to try to play English versions of MMOs from South Korea and Malaysia. I remember the ping being like you said, around 200 to 300 ms.

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zeko_rena

Oh for fuck sake, the ping to West Coast was just tolerable in NZ, East Coast always has terrible pings, may be the final nail in the coffin for me, will have to see how the pings look.

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zeko_rena

Got home logged in, ping has gone from 140ms – 160ms prior and is now 280ms – 400ms
Yep think that may be it for SWTOR for me and everyone else in the Oceanic region.

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Jack Pipsam

SWTOR + Oceania = Tragedy.

EA screwed the pooch hard.

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Armsman

SWTOR + Oceania = Tragedy.

EA screwed the Ewok hard.

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FTFY ;)

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zeko_rena

Yeah and what confuses me is I can’t understand the thought behind the move.
Do they have a large player base in Africa?

That could be the only reason I could see for moving everything to the East Coast.

West Coast you have Australia, New Zealand, Hawaii, some small islands like Fiji which I doubt anyone connects from though.

It must just be much cheaper to have your servers on the East Coast, as it is EA that would make sense they are such cheap assholes.

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zeko_rena

Hah, I was going to post in the forums my results of the server move in terms of ping can’t do that need to be a sub

So I was going to go through support, your options are call them or create a support ticket need to be a sub to create a support ticket

I forgot how much a pack of c***s EA are, uninstall this crap when I get home, really need to force myself to keep up my no EA products.

Have done well really only Mass Effect Andromeda and some sub for SWTOR in the past five years.

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Jack Pipsam

Yeah if you want to communicate you need to be throwing dosh at them every month (even though all they’ve done recently is move a server to a terrible place for ANZ players).

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Sray

My reaction.

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Purewitz

You’re one to talk, Jar Jar. You were the deciding vote for converting from a republic to an empire. Boss Nass should executed you, instead of exiling you.

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This was a planned dick move on their part. A cost cutting measure that does a large portion of their player base a disservice. A change like this was known weeks if not months in advance. Physically moving the servers location will forever impact west coast and oceanic players. This will negatively impact all aspects of game. Putting these players at a disadvantage in both PVE and PVP content.

The developers being aware of the issue and then saying they are “looking to smooth things over” is smoke and mirrors. Without bringing the west coast data center back online, these players will forever suffer from degraded ping. The developers can not click their heels together and make your ping better. They can not overcome distance or lower the number of hops you connect has to make.

I am an east coast player. This puts such a bad taste in my mouth that I will be cutting my subscription after the servers are consolidated in November. Just holding on it long enough to make sure I keep my character name.

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birini

Remember when this was the WoW killer? Then I got to Tatooine.

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Jack Pipsam

Heh, so things would go from bad to worse for me.
Thanks EA, ever loving I see.

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Humble DG

There’s this place, called the middle of the country, which has data centers in it, and really good network connection hubs, that really would work better. Or perhaps have more than one data center? Insanity. Who would have thought?

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That would have been better, but still not ideal. The oceanic players are going to suffer no matter what. Since they no longer have a server to call their own. They were all connecting to the west coast. This will push their ping time into an unbearable range and they will have no choice but to quit.

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zeko_rena

I would still take the center rather than the East Coast thought haha!

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Alex Js.

I’m surprised they haven’t closed it already… Yes, it’s a “Star Wars” – type of game so it makes sense to keep it alive considering the ever-lasting popularity for this universe, however the game just feels “old”, both from performance and visual point of view. They should just close it and do a complete rework using modern engine (not sure if Frostbite can be utilized but from what I’ve seen from previous Battlefield games I believe it can, and if it can – they can re-use many existing assets from Battlefront games), or just forget about MMORPG genre completely and keep pumping out “Battlefront” games every couple of years.

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Jack Pipsam

If they’re talking about doing another expansion then clearly the revenue is there to justify it, I mean plenty of people still do play it, SWToR has a community all to itself away from most MMOs from what I gathered.

That said, they should also do a third KotOR game.

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Hirku

I expect there’s going to always be a fresh burst of new players and revenue when a Star Wars movie comes out. That’s how I got roped in after seeing The Force Awakens.

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Jack Pipsam

True.
I will be curious if Star Wars starts to burn out on people with this one film per year plan of Disneys.

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Knox Harrington

As someone on the East Coast, I would have enjoyed finally having a lower ping with this game, but they’re not cranking out enough content to justify returning anyway so it’s whatever. If you’re still playing this train wreck for some reason and you now have high ping, welcome to my first three years with this game. I know your pain.

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jay

Awww I really feel so bad for all of you west coast players. You now have to deal with the ping I’ve dealt with for years =P

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Greaterdivinity

The good news is that the developers are aware that this change will affect performance and are hoping to be able to smooth things out over the next two weeks.

Calling that good news is a stretch. This is really disappointing to see happen out of the blue with no warning or notice. Guess I’ve been putting too much hope in Keith, because BioWare is still being the same BioWare they’ve been (with regards to SWTOR) since launch when they do shit like this : /

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Ariel Domen

Really, I play (PVP) with 180-260ms. There are a lot of people playing from Oceania, with more lag. It’s not a major problem in this game. I think west coast players are overreacting.

But it’s true, it doesn’t make sense that they didn’t merge everything into ONE server instead of two.

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Jack Pipsam

That 400+ ping Oceania feel.

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silverlock

If you have to chose between placing your data center on the east or west coast then the east cost is the obvious choice as far far more people live in the eastern half of the country then the western half.

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Armsbend

Slow death spiral in effect right now. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Star Wars still needs a good developer to take the reins. Get away from EA please.

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Hirku

Unfortunately very little chance of that until 2023 at least.

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Armsbend

I think you are right but since the contract was initialized pre-Disney who knows? I would think Disney would like to separate themselves from EA or at the least have more control of their bad decisions.

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Hirku

Every article I’ve found says the deal is between EA and Disney, just like this one does:
https://www.engadget.com/2013/11/20/ea-holds-onto-star-wars-games-license-for-10-years-says-swtor-i/

I’d take that one with a grain of salt, the author looks a little shady to me, heh. : )

Disney is only going to care about the money. I’m sure the bean counters figured out that the cost savings of these changes will outweigh the potential revenue loss of people in the affected regions quitting.

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Ket Viliano

The problem lies with IP licensing in the first place. The license will end, someone else will get the next deal, and the ‘rights’ holder will always seek to impose some stupid condition that is not helpful for game development.

Original IP fares better, due to an alignment of management interest and creative control. Compare the history of Star Wars games to that of EvE, or Warhammer to that of Warcraft.

Addendum:

Disney only cares about the money, EA only cares about the money, any problems that arise will only concern the money.

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Armsbend

That is absolutely incorrect. Disney cares more about their IPs than any company on earth. They rarely sell their brands to the highest biddder they maintain complete control. If this were not the case you’d see Mickey on every brand of consumer goods in every store in Western Civilization. As it is? They are extremely stingy with their characters and brands.

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Crowe

Normally, I’d agree with you on Disney caring more about their IP. However, their decision to license Star Wars to EA directly contradicts that.

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Polyanna

If they’re all going to be in the same data center, then why in the hell will we still have two servers in NA after the merge?

Leaving aside that this surprise move screws players physically located on the left coast and beyond, if the plan was to put them all in one place, wherever that is, then why didn’t they also plan to merge all existing NA servers into one?

If “there can be only one” (datacenter), and that was their plan all along, they should have just been up front about it and chosen a cheaper and more central location, like, oh, I don’t know, MAYBE THE CITY YOU FOLKS ALL LIVE IN?!

The way this has played out is starting to make this look like the dumbest possible implementation of what started out sounding like a pretty good plan.

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plasmajohn

Unless the plan is to eventually move everything to Ireland.

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Witches

We lose on gameplay but gain on Kafkaesque absurdity.

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rafael12104

I’m turning into a cockroach right now.

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Richard de Leon III

….I guess I should count myself lucky that I was already on the east coast servers to play with friends…still tho, dick move especially considering their highest population server WAS located on the west coast.

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thirtymil

From the announcement:

Our testing showed no impact on the gameplay experience, but we expect some of you playing on formerly West Coast servers may see higher ping times.

So higher ping times have no impact on gameplay experience…?

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Open_Mind66

To be fair if SWTOR was a traditional mmo ( like Galaxies) then your ping would matter- but as SWTOR has become mainly a single player game with some cooperative elements thrown in, then the gameplay experience will be largely unaffected. In fact many of these games sadly have become mmnos- Massively Mundane Nobody Online.

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This is wrong. All encounters are handled server side. Worse ping will impact all aspects of the game. It will damage your reaction time in flashpoints, operations, pvp, galactic starfighter, everything.

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zeko_rena

Exactly, ping will heavily effect gameplay, if I get mobs teleporting around then I am out.

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BDJ

Not really. This isn’t a shooter. You can play an MMO just fine with 100 ping. If someone hid your ping from you, put you on a random server in the US and you played for a while, you wouldn’t notice at all where you were playing from. Plese though, feel free to ping any server in the US through speedtest. Its not like you are playing on a server in japan with 300 ping.

Either way, what about the players on the East coast or central US? Screw them though right?

They should have put the servers in Dallas, right in the middle of the US in terms of data centers.

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zeko_rena

As a player in New Zealand my ping is already 130ms at best to West Coast servers, which was acceptable.

I have not touched an East Coast server for some time but usually it gets up to around the 250ms mark. Screw us though right? :p

Aussies will be in for an even bigger hit though I think

It was fantastic when we had the oceanic server and a 30ms ping, oh well will wait and see how the pings look before I fully rage quit haha.

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Ben Stone

For most MMOs maybe, but SWTOR became unplayable when they got rid of the oceanic servers. Not sure what it is about SWTOR, I usually play on overseas servers with no issue.

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BDJ

Oceanic isnt the same thing as moving from west to east. Its a huge difference. When I lived in New Jersey a while back, I pinged 15-20 on NY servers in CS 1.6 and 90ish to West Coast servers. That was a long time ago.

I moved back home Texas and I ping 60ish to west , 50ish to east , and 20-30 central.

This is trivial. You guys are comparing pings between continents to moving west to east. Between continents will hose ya, no doubt. 300 ping is bad, but going up 50-60 ping, hah, you won’t even notice it playing an MMO.

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Jack Pipsam

I know what you mean. It lags far worse than most other things I play, pretty much had to quit when they shuttered the Sydney server.

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ogged451

Remember the new LotRO data center in Europe ?

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Hirku

Final nail for me. Not just the technical aspect but the way they snuck it in there without notice right when the character transfer sale ends.

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rafael12104

I’ll log in after the merger to check out the aftermath. But… yeah, this could be the end.

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