The Daily Grind: Have you done socially unacceptable things in MMOs?

There are two sorts of cheating in MMOs. One of them, which is outright hacking the game, is capital-b Bad. Back in the days when Final Fantasy XI was a bigger deal, Fleetool was one of the more popular hacks to the game, resulting in many people getting bans for hacking the game to move faster. That was not all right (the hacking, not the banning).

But then there were the groups who jumped ahead of other groups to get into Dynamis zones. This was definitely not a good thing, and it could be argued that it was cheating; the server community agreed about how to use Dynamis and these players were violating that agreement. But it was cheating entirely based upon a social contract, not an actual one; it was rude and indisputably wrong, but definitely not breaking the specific rules of the game.

I think a lot of our readers have done things like this in the past. Sniping resource nodes in World of Warcraft, intentionally standing in things to make healers work harder in Final Fantasy XIV, things like that. So have you ever done something socially unaccepted in an MMO? Do you feel like you were justified, and do you tend to ignore those social conventions most of the time or usually observe them?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!
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Sajiri

Best I can think of is back in Ragnarok Online days, I was playing a hunter and I thought it was hilarious as I followed some guy around as he was trying to exp and I kept sniping the mobs before he got to them. I dont know why I was doing it, I didn’t know who he was and I wasnt intentionally setting out to annoy him, I just thought it was funny.

A day or two later it clicked with me how much of a jerk I was being though so I tracked him down to apologise, and then got on my healer to help him exp after to make up for it. After that I try to be mindful of what’s acceptable and if I do anything like stealing kills or such by accident I try to apologise immediately.

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Koshelkin

Sometimes I farted during conversations without anyone knowing. Push-to-talk ftw.

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Sally Bowls

My guess is that the number of people who have done rude or socially unacceptable things is much larger than the number of people who think they have done rude or socially unacceptable things.

I question the “the server community agreed about how to use Dynamis” I am sure there were a lot of people who knew what was “Supposed” to happen; i.e. what they thought should happen. But that is different than everyone agreed to it.

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MurderHobo

I used to script my tradeskill combines in EverQuest, does that count? It was an obnoxious, RSI-inducing system and I feel no regret over it.

In Vanilla WoW I used the (Then legitimate) mod system to automate the actions of my characters. If you were clever you could reduce your entire character down to two or three hotkeys. I got a lot of flak in battlegrounds from frustrated players, but with TBC WoW plugged that loophole.

The one thing I regret is from my EQ raiding days. We were a “casual hardcore” guild in the pack behind the top guild on the server. Morale was always an issue and there was a constant churn of our better players being poached. Our guild voted in a kid (our guild had an 18+ rule) who just couldn’t handle raiding till 2AM, yet the non-raiders voted this cleric onto our raid team. Night after night this kid would fall asleep and we’d wipe and end up with hours of recovery. This was impacting morale to the point where we would no longer have a viable raid team.
So one night after a particularly frustrating wipe in TOV, a friend and I noticed that this cleric had bound himself on the beach of Cobalt Scar. He’d fallen asleep again, and we took the opportunity to train mobs over his spawn point over and over until he’d lost his raid levels, then left his corpses to rot.
I knew at the time it was the wrong thing to do, but anger got the best of me and I took action to remove the problem. We did go on to have a successful raid season without him.

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Paragon Lost

No, I’m honestly just not wired that way. I never feel right doing something that is against what the game developers intended. That is, if I am aware of it, there have been a few times over the past twenty five plus years where I’d found out later that something was dubious after the fact.

I also just won’t do stuff that will screw over other players like the example listed in the article of standing in the bad stuff to make healers work harder. Again, I’m just not wired like that. I’m not a petty, pissy person by nature. If I don’t like what someone is doing I’ll leave at the first chance I get, sometimes saying something but often not.

I also don’t wish ill of someone who is doing well whether in life, gaming, romance or whatever. I my take is to say and feelings are of this nature, “Well done for them”. Even if I don’t care or actually dislike someone, I don’t wish ill for them. (shrugs)

So no, I don’t cheat in mmos and if I find out after the fact that someone wasn’t what the game developers had in mind, I’ll avoid doing it again if the bug/feature whatever is still there. Hell I don’t like like the concept of killing your character and raising at a graveyard/rezz point in another location, which is something a lot of players do in WoW or was popular once upon a time. I feel it violates the spirit of game and plus I always feel like my character dying is a failure and I don’t care for that.

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NeoWolf

I have NEVER cheated in an MMO nor would I ever…heck I won’t even kill steal, need on all loot, draw aggro to passerby’s, camp nodes, drop a group halfway through because I don’t like or agree with something, join a groupfinder and then leave because it puts us in a dungeons etc.. I don’t like etc..or any of the other typical douche bag MMO player moves we all experience daily from some tool or other.

I do not try to be or WANT to be THAT guy. So no. :)

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DeviateFish

You mean besides genocide, pre-meditated murder, theft and impersonating a hero? Not really.

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Melissa McDonald

a relentless termination of orc/goblin life is simply “ethnic cleansing”, a just and righteous endeavor by any self-respecting Elf. /s

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Ket Viliano

Once upon a time, in a Dungeons and Dragons table top game long, long ago, we had a group we called the “Elf Klux Klan”. We had one Elf of each type, save for Wood Elf, because we were prejudiced against the filthy Wood Elves. Instead, we had a pet Human Ranger.

I played the Drow.

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Robert Mann

The only times I have, were completely justified. Because when somebody resource/quest item snipes me… I snipe back triple. If they are playing a class that has an advantage against it, I call in friends if possible, or just make my own moves sneakier.

My opinion on it is that they should not only ‘Not prosper’ from their crud, but they should feel the pain worse than what they dished out.

On the other hand, I’ve stopped and allowed people resource nodes and the like in many cases, especially if I’m farming stuff on a higher level character for an alt or guild mate.

Er, wait, no… on voice in one I have called out for people to move. Apparently they felt name/shamed, although I was just trying to help them and stop bleeding mana. :(

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Bryan Correll

I like to actually watch cutscenes the first time I play through content. For many players this is worse than taking a dump in a punch bowl.

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Estranged

Yes, I chat with people on LFG runs… it ruins their experience. Shut up and just gather your loot, fool!

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thalendor

Of all the things mentioned, this one is truly unforgivable. You leave us no choice. We must remove all chat boxes from all games. :-P

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Estranged

thalendor – that is why I play Destiny 2 on PS4 currently. No chat boxes and I just turn off voice.

Don’t want to offend people!

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Robert Mann

ROFL