Black Desert’s arguably pay-to-win enhancement items enter the game and cash shop today

    
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You might have thought Black Desert would take a little break from its update pace, what with the graphical overhaul it just rolled out, but you’d have been wrong. As promised, Kakao is patching Black Desert today with items it once said would never come westward – Valks’ Cries – with Cron Stones in the cash shop. While Kakao has tweaked the enhancement system such that these enhancement boosting items can be acquired through in-game means, players nevertheless raised “pay-to-win” alarms last week.

Also going live today are multiple events meant to help players acclimate to the new system. Additionally, the Rulupee quests have returned to the game permanently, and players should expect a round of graphics-related to tweaks to last week’s mega update.

Source: Patch notes
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Toy Clown

It’s reminding me of ArcheAge all over again. Not in the same way, but in the way the development team makes me feel about my investment, which isn’t very good.

The graphical enhancement needs a lot of work. It makes the game look horrible without the ability to tone down the “shiny” that’s everywhere. I know they’ll get there, but the game looked, and sounded amazing before all of this… waste of our cash?

I still like BDO on the level of playing it for features I can’t get in other games, but so much of it relies on leaving my computer on and I now have to pay electricity where I live, so other than logging on to check out new content, I think my days of playing BDO are over, especially in lieu of this extremely pricey P2W addition.

It’s such a shame a gorgeous MMO like this has gone this route. I’m happy to leave the game to the 2% whale population that’s paying for 90% of the game’s costs.

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Colin Goodwin

lmao, so glad I dropped this garbage fire of a “game”
They can honestly take their shiny new bloom filters and go die in a fire.

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rafael12104

Hmm. So, we will see how this plays out. There are a lot of changes from what I can see, so… it may be a small blip on the radar.

However, I don’t understand the logic. Surely they knew the cash shop items would be controversial. In my experience, the veteran BDO players don’t miss anything. So… why not wait on the cash shop shenanigans?

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Arktouros

Basically their response was they can’t introduce other game features from other regions, such as the Caphras system, without first introducing the costume melting systems.

No one believes that, of course, but that was what Kakao said Pearl Abyss’ response was on the system. I think most of the Veterans recognize that we knew this was going to be coming at some point and it just happened to coincide when NA/EU/Other portion of their profit gains was down over last quarter.

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Roger Melly

From my perspective if they promised these Valks cries would never be in the Western game it doesn’t really how much they tweak them , it is proof they are willing to tell outright lies to their player base and therefore cannot be trusted not to do so again in the future . I have never played the game due to the lack of a male archer class and never will now even if one becomes available to play .

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Life_Isnt_Just_Dank_Memes

I keep preaching about the benefits of only playing this as a PvE title and no one ever listens to me but it’s really the only way to play it without it being p2w.

There’s is literally no competitiveness with this game’s gear system and enhancement system. You either rely on RNG on the market to get your gear by preorder or you rely on the heinous RNG system in upgrading with stones for armor and weapons and even WORSE RNG for jewelry and now they’ve added Cash Shop RNG to the mix so you can buy better chances with real money without letting anyone know what the odds are.

^You are nuts if you want to do any of what’s in the above paragraph.

Oh and once you get that gear, you are then gear gated to 235 AP or above to get into groups to grind that have class limitation slots. It’s not a fun dungeon or raid I’m talking about; THERE ARE RAID STYLE GEAR CHECKS FOR LEVELING YOUR TOONS AT A CERTAIN PLACE SO THAT YOU CAN LEVEL TO THEN GO GANK PEOPLE.

No thanks. I’ll stick to playing this game like it’s Dynasty Warriors Online. I’ll train my horses and drive my trade wagon and ignore the P2W in what really is a gorgeous game world.

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Xijit

Problem is that everything past the Black Desert is GS gated to the point where you need full sets of top level BOSS gear to even PvE. I was wondering WTF they were thinking with how Kamasylve is basically off limits to everyone except for the boss raid guilds, and even then they had to be so filthy rich that they could pay the billions it takes to upgrade that shit … then news started hitting about how they were adding in this CS upgrade shit and I realised that it wasn’t bad content design: it was a giant Paywall.

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Arktouros

There’s some misinformation here.

In Kamasylvia you have 7 grind locations (Polly, Fadus, Navaran, Manshaums, Ronaros, Mirumok and Gyfin). Of those Polly starts at 90-110 AP and can be done around level 50 with Fadus listed at 100-180 AP. It then jumps from there to 210, 240, 240, 250 and 250. So there’s a wide spread of grind locations in Kamasylvia depending on your gear.

The last two 250 locations, which is what Life was referencing, is Gyfin Temple which is a group grind location where 5 people can get loot from the drops in a party. As Gyfin is pretty difficult (you usually want 230+ Kutum AP and 300 DP) there’s a lot of checks and requirements to make sure people are being efficient with time. We see this in a lot of MMO games as min-maxers always going to try to min-max and it certainly isn’t regulated to BDO.

I’ll also say I’m 254 AP with full TET weapons/boss gear and TRI accessories and I’ve never been in a guild larger than 5-10 people and currently sit in my own 2 man guild. I also don’t grind a lot or no life and do mostly life skills and play at my own pace. If you put in the time, you can progress in game or I guess now pay for progress.

There’s no paywall with Caphras, it’s really more of the answer to being able to pay to buy your gear. The issue with being able to p2w your gear is you have nothing left to work for. with Caphras energy adding onto that it means you now gotta keep playing the game and working for that next power boost by farming up Caphras Energy for your gear.

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Arktouros

I pretty much play that way as well, and equally rarely run into issues. Once in a while I will feel like grinding and run into a player but there’s so many grind areas it’s easy to avoid people entirely if you want.

I will also say playing this way I have amassed wealth over playing this game for 2.5 years at this point that acquiring the kind of gear you’re talking about is fairly easy. I have duplicate boss gear sets for my main and full gear is at TET with TRI accessories.

Where you generally hear the outcry from people, however, is those who are still trying to play the game at a competitive level in the siege and node war scene. Their frustrations and understandable and warranted really even if people like you and I found a way to be comfortable with the game.

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Tim Cunliffe

I play the same way. I have 12 characters all over 50+ and everyday I just come in take care of my workers, grind for a couple hours, run dailies, hit a boss of two, and sell my stuff on market…if I’m feelin crazy i try my hand with the RNG gods and try upgrading at least one piece of gear. I’ve been ganked a couple times, as some one “really” needed to grind the same spot I happen to be running without giving me a chance to leave, but beyond that I PvE all the time. So this stuff there adding doesn’t bother me in the least. I got my free tier 7 horse to roll around in so no worries here. I could chop down trees for a half hour and be happy…kind therapeutic after a bad day of work.

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Arktouros

It’s absolutely P2W by every definition of the term. The old system was fairly arguable since money only took you so far but the new one money can take you all the way. The server messages have been slammed all morning long (literally 3+ hours of nonstop attempts at this time) of people making TET/PEN attempts they never would have been able to do without paying $$ for them.

The big thing about BDO is there isn’t really isn’t any kind of guided content as a game. So it isn’t get geared, then do dungeon/raiding/etc like in games like WOW. The gearing up is the game and it’s why the system is designed the way it is (high failure, set backs, etc) to keep people going along to elongate that progression. The people who are paying for TETs and PENs are going to find they have all this gear, now what? And congratulations, you’re the dog who caught it’s own tail.

As for the content update pacing, that’s big reason why I’ve enjoyed BDO. They never stop working or developing new content and have patches to the game every week. Sure there’s no big one expansion like other games, but instead you get constant updates throughout the year. It reminds me a lot of early GW2 and the living season and it’s why I enjoyed it that much.

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Xijit

Word is that the drop rates on everything gear enchantment related was gutted with the Remaster patch & the in game market is barren of Blackstones.

Not sure how Kakao is expecting this to turn out, but it probably isn’t going to be what they think it will be.

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Arktouros

Hour long grind test this morning after server up showed that isn’t true. Still got the average number of blackstones. The market is barren because it’s almost always barren of anything enhancing related. but there’s still thousands of weaponstones (normal) and scroll types.

Kakao has responded they attempted to not go forward with this, but PA (the developer) basically said this is how it’s going to happen and we wouldn’t receive Caphras without getting costume melting.

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Vorender

BDO is arguably a game.