BlizzCon gamers react to, reflect on Overwatch toxicity

    
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There's nothing about deriving joy from your waifu being gay.

Toxicity in online gaming is easily one of the biggest stories of the year, particularly in Overwatch, where Blizzard has been focusing its anti-toxicity efforts with such persistence that it’s almost become silly. And yet here we are, with the problem unsolved and a whole lot of people sure it’s unsolveable or content to direct victims to just “ignore” it.

So how bad is it? Eurogamer collected clips of female gamers and streamers being harassed via voice chat in Overwatch and toted them to BlizzCon, showing them to attendees who agreed to be interviewed about their reactions and their own experiences. Forewarning if you’re going to watch the video below: The clips are awful and will make you angry once you realize they aren’t parody. The worst part? Most of the men and women Eurogamer interviewed basically all have that same stony look on their faces that I currently have on mine because it’s par for the course – and it’s just the misogyny brand of toxicity. The video doesn’t even touch on racism or homophobia.

“That sounds about right,” said one woman after watching the clips. “That’s pretty common.”

“It’s sad, but that’s what happens to pretty much every every female who plays a video game and has their voice up,” another points out.

“I’ve learned over the years just not to talk in games and just be kinda silent,” says a third.

“I would love [more than] anything for people to look at Overwatch and think about the amazing talent and the amazing game that we all have to play,” remarks a dude clearly stunned by the clips, “but unfortunately this attitude really takes away from what is a beautiful and inspiring game.”

In one of the clips, another player on the team calls out harassers and tells them to knock it off, but attendees point out that while that’s great, it’s uncommon. “I get that you don’t want to start a huge argument in there, but I also feel like if no one says anything, it just feels like, yeah, it’s totally cool to lay into her like that,” explains an interviewee, who gives a few examples of how she’d like to see gamers stick up for each other to fight toxicity in the moment itself – in fact, multiple people argued that men have a unique ability to influence toxicity in other men.

“If they’re not confronted about it, they’re just going to keep doing it,” one man says. “They’re going to assume it’s OK.”

The takeaway?

“We have to police ourselves. We have to make sure that we are the community that we want to be.”

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possum440 .

And gamer’s think that “E-sports will become a thing” lol. No company will touch esports as long as the possibility of anything happening that would damage their brand.

Gaming in esports is a lost cause. You may have regional meetings that call themselves world whatever, but when it comes right down to it the only people that tolerate the way gamer’s act are the game companies, since they never seem to do anything about it.

Here is a solution that will work. With the report and a finding that a player has committed one of these offenses, have a police report automatically generated and ready to turn in once the game company verifies the incident.

Then you will see some changes in their mouths. until then, banning and slaps on the wrist will do nothing.

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BDJ

They are talking about eSports being added to the Olympics. ESPN covers eSports. eSports is on TV. Injustice 2, CSGO, Street Fighter V, all on live TV. Its bigger now than it ever has been. Your opinion is no company will touch eSports. There have been , what , 3-4 NBA teams that have bought into the League of Legends LCS. There are other major companies that have bought into eSports as well.

((Edited by mod. Please review the commenting code. There is no reason for the personal attacks.))

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Jay Madison

Aaaand this is why I don’t frequent Competitive games and I don’t talk to randoms in the games I do play.

Anonymity makes people bold enough to be total assholes.

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Brinto Sfj

Been playing online games and mmo for nearly a decade. I have suffered so many insults over the years, it is impossible to count how many times. There were many times i let insults bother me but i did something about it in game, like ganking them or using alt to join their raid and ruin it for them etc. there was a time when i was in a guild for 6 months and they found out i was from a country where majority are muslim, they kicked me from guild, tried to harass me in game on every chance they got, despite knowing i don’t believe in god or religion, my “crime” was that i live in a country full of muslims. Then there was another time when a group of people in swtor found out i did not believe in god or religion and proceeded to annoy me with their religious crap every time i was online, going as far as to demand that i repent for my sins. Yeah… there have been lots of situation like that in nearly a decade of my online gaming life, but i never ever let that effect me in day to day life. why? because i know instinctively that humans are shit. we don’t live in a fairy tale where everyone is inherently good, in fact it is opposite. People like me get hacked to death in my country for being a “blasphemer”, we are social destitute, even my own family hates me for being a “secular pig”, i am barely “tolerated” because my family have social status to maintain. You waste your time on these nonsense, meaning you are just allowing bunch of nobodies have power over your lives. They are nobodies who have no power over their lives, they can’t achieve anything, they have nothing, so they resort to these tactics to find some meaning in their pitiful existence by getting attention from people who get easily offended. Stop giving these people the time of day they seek.

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Cadaver

Kudos to you. I cherish freedom from religion but it’s easy to take it for granted. Your convictions require genuine courage.

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Joe Seabreeze

Don’t they have a way to vote someone out of the game? If I heard someone treating a woman like that, I’d instantly boot his ass.

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Jeffrey Meade

This shit happens in every competitive game I have ever played for many years. Its what happens when idiots can hide behind their computers with no fear of being held accountable. I can’t stand this behavior and as I grow older I have less interest in playing games with stupid amounts of this problem. The worst I ever saw was probably Shadowbane years ago. The harassment and sadistic glee some players had in terrorizing other players was truly insane.

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PurpleCopper

Who’d thought that Overwatch is serious business?

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camren_rooke

Couldn’t post this at work but…

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Melissa McDonald

Yeah, it happens, and it’s happened to me. But I refuse to blame “men” or “toxic masculinity” or any of the feminist buzzwords we are hearing frequently these days.

Probably because I have a good, honorable, loving father. So much of who we are and how we act goes back to our home life and our parents.

The problem isn’t Men. Some men are paladins and would give their lives for you. Some people are just assholes. Women too. I know some extremely boorish women.

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camren_rooke

Oh those feminists!

Toxic masculinity sounds exactly like what it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity

And yes, some people are just assholes, men or women or non-binary, but that doesn’t mean they get a pass.

It’s also happened to me and it went beyond being ‘just an asshole’ into the realm of intentional bullying and abuse. Using multiple accounts to send me nasty and violent threats despite each time being blocked and reported. One of the many reasons I have changed my position on Free to play gaming.

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Utakata

#BothSides

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Nathan Aldana

..speaking as a dude here, but like. yes. Some men are great. That doesnt fucking excuse the rest of my gender for their behavior just because you want to pretend theres not really a problem and want to believe in whatever propaganda you want to believe about feminists being some rabid death cult.

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Veldan

Lol. I guess it’s because I’ve been around so long that I really am not affected by people saying such crap over the internet, but I find some of it funny. If someone got really mad and went “go back the the kitchen you dumb **** you suck at playing video games blah blah” I’d totally mess with them and see if they got more mad. (I’m not a girl, just saying)

I can see how this is a problem if it happens all the time though, but then again, it’s no surprise at all. Random gamers in a mainstream PvP game + voice chat = horrible idea. I would never want to be in voice chat with randoms.

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Ariel Domen

I watched the vid where the girl gets all those sexist insults. I don’t know how she can play like that. I remember when I was first insulted like that in a MMO, but it was in chat. It really made me sad. There were 6 other players in the match reading it and no one spoke against the sexist jerk, who kept insulting me a lot with horrible phrases; so I ended up assuming that 99% of the players are that disgusting.
I learnt that I should never clarify that I’m a girl when someone says “him” because they think I’m trying to get attention by clarifying that.
I want to believe that by now I got used to it and can ignore it, but I would never never use mic with randoms. It may sound like a coward but one can’t simply play like that.

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mysecretid

It’s not cowardly at all. Wanting to have a good time when playing a game is sort of the point of playing a game.

For whatever it’s worth, I’m a dude, and I turn off all general chat in online games (I leave Local on, in case I want to hear someone immediately next to me in-game, but that’s it) and I have a PS4, but I never plug in a headset when I’m in multiplayer.

Like you, I play to have fun, not to deal with other people’s drama and/or psychoses. If they don’t like that I can’t hear them, well, what is it that they always like to say? They can “deal with it”.

So, no, you’re not a coward — you’re taking action to ensure that your games are fun to play when you play them — and that’s the point.

Be well,