LOTRO players denounce $50 legendary item catch-up sale

    
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For quite a while now, one of the most contentious points between Lord of the Rings Online’s community and the game itself has been the latter’s legendary item system. Unwieldy, grindy, and far too expensive to level, the system has been roundly criticized — a sentiment that the developers seemed to agree with, seeing as how a revamp of LIs is slated for some time next year.

With that revamp in sight, players right now are denouncing a recent $50 offering in the game store that offers enough items (star-lit crystals and scrolls of empowerment) to fully level a legendary item without any in-game effort whatsoever. The phrase “pay-to-win” has been put into play, especially considering that the community has been asking for a workaround strategy to the grind for the past year. Seeing the studio elect for a sale instead of a workaround or revamp is understandably upsetting.

“For just 4,995 LP we can now buy a boatload of scrolls and crystals for our LIs,” one forum poster said. “Those who suspected that the store would be the long-promised fix were absolutely right although maybe after they have pushed this in the store for six months they will come up with something else.”

“It’s extremely frustrating that the first thing they do about this subject is to offer an expensive box in store that doesn’t change anything about the mechanics,” another poster agreed.

Source: LOTRO forums. Thanks Tobias!

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Ben Stone

Pretty much par for the course for SoE / DBG / SSG at this point. Their logo should have been someone milking a dead cow.

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MrEllis

This is one game that better tread lightly with their player base.

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GumpsGang

History shows us SSG is quite receptive to player wants and needs. They look for feedback on what we want to try to fit in into a development budget. As long as they scale their budget to the funds they get from players, this game will continue.

This item looks like one of those things that most players will just not care about one way or the other. It’s just an expensive level boot. Not for me, but if someone wants it, go for it.

As far I know, LI revamp is still being planned. The executive producer has talked about it multiple times. It not going to be easy work to do. They need to make a good system while still respecting the work (and now money) that people have put into existing LIs.

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2Ton Gamer

I don’t think it’s a question of what can be done if a player applies themselves, but the fact of just being shitty instead of creating imaginative gameplay.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

They are making the same mistake Blizzard did with WoW, make grinding on alts so painful there is no fun in it at all. Realizing that the hurdle you have to get over to simply enjoy the gameplay is so great that you can’t reasonable do it is a terrific fun killer.

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teppic

A fairly big difference is that in WoW they don’t give you a cash shop option to skip all the grind. Pretty much every aspect of progression in lotro can be accelerated/skipped with cash now, including raid ready gear from lootboxes.

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Mordyjuice

Instant level ups aren’t an option to skip the grind, come on I’m Blizzard apologist and even I can smell the BS in your comment lol?

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teppic

Level skip doesn’t get you past any of the grind at all in WoW, the OP wasn’t talking about levelling. And lotro offers a level skip as well as grind skip/raid gear for end game. I never get people like you who think everyone is either 100% for or 100% against everything.

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teppic

Create a ludicrous amount of grind, then sell the solution and make an arbitrary “sale” on that to make it sound like you’re giving players a deal. It gets more like EA every day.

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Ryan Jeske

Only thing I will say is check your source….
“recent $50 offering in the game store that offers enough items (star-lit crystals and scrolls of empowerment) to fully level a legendary item without any in-game effort whatsoever. ”

The offering does NOT grant you enough scrolls and crystals to level up a legendary to completion…it actually only gets you about 2/3 of the way.

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Den D

Seems like a lot of complain,about a system that’s been in place since level 100 Li’s hit the game. Anfalas scrolls 1 for 295 lp so we get 100 that’s 29,500 lp seems they did us a favor. That’s only 1 item out of the pack. Again they have been selling these for at least 5 or 6 years.

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warroth weill

What you fail to realize is that a few years back it didn’t take this long to grind for it.. and you where not forced into the store! Right now players need to run 5 year old instances to get a few scrolls per week when you need like 800 scrolls for 1 spec. And 2400 for all 3 specs! Do you hear how insane this is ?? Also if you dont apply tons of crystals at 115+, you do 0 DPS and cant proceed. And there is only 2 ways to get them at a very slow speed, temporary festivals and old content.. it still takes months to grind for them.. store skip is fine for those who want that, but you shouldnt be forced to do it… endgame should be enough to get them at a decent phase.

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Den D

So, it might be because I have 10 capped characters all able to do all three instances in Minis Tirith, but I can average almost 100 scrolls a day. Also, again, no one is FORCED to buy anything.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

If SSG were to auto level everyone’s stable of alts to level cap and geared them all so that they could solo Minas Tirith, it just might matter.

Otherwise, your comment is about as relevant as pie.

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MrEllis

Remove “I” from a statement like this and it’s meaningless.

LotRO isn’t promoting end game as The Game. They promote the journey. As it stands, the know the system is broke, they have said as much, yet this seems like a cash grab for a solution that really isn’t a solution. All games require some grind, the trick is to disguise the grind so joy is derived. If the majority of the player base is not having fun, LotRO can’t afford to get by on the minority.

It’s not unreasonable to ask the devs to look at a semi-abandoned system and either update it so the weapons advance through normal game play, drop the system entirely, or revise the system to be way less cumbersome. You’re taking a reasonable request, one the devs have recognized, and acting like it’s a bunch of people who want things handed to them because I don’t know, Boomer Appeal. When in fact it’s a semi-abandon system SSG continues because they have no clue how it should go and have just bumped up caps and you can see this in the way the game flows when they introduced the system as to after, when they let it limp along. Make it span the entire game and have content reward you at all levels.

This doesn’t just seem lazy, it seems lazy and disgenuine to their stated values.

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warroth weill

Haha! Omg.. $$G feel no shame?? Players ask for an in-game fix for years, and instead of actually fixing it they make you pay to skip it instead… for 50$!!! You get a new AAA for 50$ and they want you to use that money for a freaking weapon inside a p2p MMO? Yea if you want to play the latest expansion its p2p.. hope this makes the community to wake up and quit until they remove all p2w..

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BalsBigBrother

Create a problem then sell the solution and it’s not like the devs don’t already have history of doing this, wallets anyone

And to think folks used to praise lotto monetisation, sigh

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BalsBigBrother

Lotro monestation, sighs at auto correct and SSG