Black Desert’s Reddit community erupts over Pearl Abyss’ datamining suppression

So how do you feel about dataminers? One player apparently datamined a significant chunk of info about Black Desert’s so-called hidden stats, posting everything to the game’s subreddit to finally end arguments over what those stats entail. But Pearl Abyss (the Korean developer, not the western publisher Kakao) put an end to it, requesting that the mods remove it, and one did just that.

In the midst of player uproar over what the community perceived as independent mods doing a Korean studio’s dirty work, the moderating team on the BDO sub told players that while it had been removed by an over-eager junior mod, the mods were suppressing the information until such time as Pearl Abyss could confirm or deny whether the datamined info could by used to “bypass anti-cheat safeguards and/or manipulate the client in ways that haven’t been done before,” which is a bit of a head-scratcher. The mods also casually mention, for some reason, their desire to stay in Pearl Abyss’ good graces for the purposes of running contests and events on the sub, giving opponents a sackful of ammo.

And for all that, the information is very much publicly available on a different sub where PA seemingly has no reach.

As MOP commenter Arktouros points out, earlier this year Pearl Abyss publicly threatened dataminers and anyone who distributes datamined information with legal action. It is not clear whether those threats have any teeth.

Source: Reddit. With thanks to Arktouros!
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Benjamin Northrup
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Benjamin Northrup

anybody who is against this datamine doesn’t play BDO. we gained so much information about HOW our items actually work, things that have been completely hidden from us.

Take your favorite game. now all the stats, keep them but get rid of the tooltip, and you have BDO. we didn’t even know if our boss gear was actually better than low level gear, because hidden stats could make the boss worse, or better, than other stuff. Like we found out how Giath helm’s, one of the most expensive helmets in the game, is probably worse than Rocaba, a piece of gear with infinite supply that you can buy from a vendor. we had NO way to know this until now.

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Alberto

Agreed pearl abyss hides a ton of stats that you never see and can only learn about thru thousands of players comparing notes which is BS…doing something as simple as breeding 2 horses is a complicated mess of stats and if it wasn’t for players just Plain Trial and error.

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Robert Mann

Meh. Datamining is just one more way to get people upset over things that don’t happen. I’d rather just wait for the actual release… and not have the toxicity that results. No go ahead and get that data-mining locked down!

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Benjamin Northrup

These are stats that have been in the game since day 1 and we’ve had no way to actually figure out what any of them were. some stats we didn’t even KNOW existed.

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squid

Ugh, subreddit mods are the fucking worst.

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Darthbawl

I am actually very curious about any legalities regarding datamining. I’m sure most/all developers frown upon it with some probably saying it’s on the level of hacking/reverse-engineering. Curious how the legal system views it.

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Life_Isnt_Just_Dank_Memes

The moral of the story is if you are a life-skiller you can fully enjoy this game without having to care about any of that and if you are a pvper you should be playing something else.

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Leiloni

I seem to remember a comment a while back from Pearl Abyss that things like this were intentionally kept a secret so players wouldn’t min/max, which is part of why Korean developers never allow addons as well. If that’s true, I can see why they want to keep datamining illegal. They’re trying to protect the fun of their game from everyone, so a select few don’t take advantage of information that others may not have. I’m ok with that.

Really for any game, developers will release information and/or content when they’re ready. They’re doing these things to make the best game they can, not to screw over the people that keep them in business. If it’s hidden, in any game, there’s a reason for that, and you either accept it or play another game. There’s no need to go to these lengths.

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Jacobin GW

The huge problem with reddit is volunteer mods deciding based on their own bias what is and isn’t news.

All to often they go on personal power trips and prevent players from gaining critical information because they want to suck up to the associated company to get freebies or even try to get hired.

Volunteers with a little but of power and no accountability -abuse will become rampant.

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rafael12104

Datamining, like spandex, is a privilege, not a right.

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Slaasher

HA! Well said

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CapnLan

Damn. I don’t play BDO but I’m a hardcore supporter of the datamining community as a whole. It goes back to my FFXI days as I’ve mentioned many times here before. Seeing them come under attack always gets my sodium levels up a bit. Hope they don’t give in an keep doing the work and giving us the info dev teams won’t.

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Brinto Sfj

Just to so you know Kakao is also a korean company that “opened shop” for western audience, so to speak.

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Leiloni

They opened a European subsidiary to publish the game in NA/EU, with Western employees, so technically calling them a “Western publisher” is true.