The 2015 ArcheAge class action lawsuit continues, snarled in arbitration appeals

Waaaay back in 2015, a group of ArcheAge players filed a lawsuit against Trion Worlds over the Patron perk mess. Veteran MMO players will recall that Trion’s original pitch for founder packs included a 10% discount for cash shop buyables. That discount never happened – specifically because in 2014 Trion “determined that the time to develop this perk would be significant.” After launch, the studio instead swapped the discount over to past and future credit packs.

That prompted players Aaron Van Fleet, Paul Ovberg and James Longfield to lodge a class action suit against Trion for, among other things, false advertising and violation of consumer laws. The original lawsuit also muddied the waters by wedging in a lockbox gambling issue and has since been tangled up in determinations over the game’s EULA and TOU, which Trion had sought to use to force arbitration out of court. Last year, the suit was turned over to First District Court of Appeals as Trion appealed the lower court’s ruling against arbitration.

And now the case progresses. As MMO Fallout chronicles, this past month, the court found that the abitration clause detailed in the TOU is superseded by the EULA rather than incorporates it, by Trion’s own language, and therefore the case stays in court rather than in arbitration, where Trion would apparently prefer it.

And you guys thought EULAs and TOUs were meaningless! Maybe in another three years, we’ll actually get back to the original issue about false advertising.

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Veldan
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Veldan

Why do lawsuits always take this long? For once I can’t say it’s an American thing, because I know things over here in Europe drag on for years too. I just never understood why.

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Bruno Brito

Complex language, tons of similar lawsuits that need to be analized with minute precision, lack of working force, etc.

flyingltj
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flyingltj

I’ll take my gaming to go with extra fair and fun, hold the corruption and criminality.

Xijit
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Xijit

please let there be a sub complaint that the game in general was just far more shitty than what was advertised?

Godnaz
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Godnaz

It was shitty but not because of the game’s design. The Alpha and launch were completely different games as Trion and XLGames mislead pre-purchasers who were enjoying a fairly balanced experience, then when launch arrived, they added P2W tactics that players could not avoid in order to compete.

flyingltj
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flyingltj

Before the Trion version the pre-1.0 releases of Archeage were actually a model of near perfection. The original design of the game, economy, mechanics, crafting were akin to seeing the man/woman of your dreams at a party. Then Trion comes along and throws up all over your chest & asks you to give them $50. Pre-1.0 Archeage was the product most people were expecting, and Trion took it and retooled an inferior (post 1.0) version of it into a shopping mall.

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Toy Clown

Red tape, red tape, red tape. I look forward to the outcome of this case in 15 years.

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Bryan Turner

By that time the settlement will be fighting for scraps with Trion’s creditors after it’s Chapter 11.

Xijit
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Xijit

Trion is owned by several large media companies (think Comcast lecel of big, but I can’t bother to look it up again) who prop them up as their foot in the door to the MMO market.

Trion will never go bankrupt, no matter how much they screw the pooch.

Durenas
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Durenas

more accurately, even if they do, their owners inherit this.